Results tagged ‘ Magglio Ordonez ’

Wednesday: Tigers at White Sox

Magglio Ordonez could’ve been in the starting lineup, Jim Leyland said today, but he decided to sit him one more day with an eye towards Thursday. He didn’t feel comfortable with the idea of playing Magglio both Wednesday night and Thursday afternoon with the quick turnaround, and if he had to choose one or the other, he opted for Thursday against White Sox left-hander John Danks. He’s 14-for-23 (.609) off Danks with four doubles and two home runs, compared with 14-for-47 (.298) with six doubles off Wednesday’s starter, Freddy Garcia.

Ryan Raburn gets the start in the third spot again, playing in left field. Danny Worth, meanwhile, gets his first start at shortstop, batting ninth.


  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, DH
  3. Raburn, LF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Boesch, RF
  6. Guillen, 2B
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Avila, C
  9. Worth, SS

P: Rick Porcello


  1. Juan Pierre, LF
  2. Omar Vizquel, 3B
  3. Alex Rios, CF
  4. Paul Konerko, 1B
  5. Carlos Quentin, RF
  6. Mark Kotsay, DH
  7. Alexei Ramirez, SS
  8. Ramon Castro, C
  9. Gordon Beckham, 2B

P: Freddy Garcia

Friday: Tigers at Dodgers

Back on the beat after a couple days off. Already heard the vacation jokes, thanks.

Speaking of days off, the squeeze of four Tigers outfielders and just three spots shakes out with Johnny Damon as the odd man out tonight. Brennan Boesch is in left field. Magglio Ordonez is in right. He said his ankle feels fine now. Still isn’t completely sure what caused it. Manager Jim Leyland said Damon will definitely be in the lineup Saturday. Not sure who won’t be.


  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Santiago, SS
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Boesch, LF
  6. Inge, 3B
  7. Avila, C
  8. Worth, 2B
  9. Willis, P


  1. Jamey Carroll, 2B
  2. Ronnie Belliard, 1B
  3. Manny Ramirez, LF
  4. Matt Kemp, CF
  5. Casey Blake, 3B
  6. Reed Johnson, RF
  7. Nick Green, 2B
  8. A.J. Ellis, C
  9. Chad Billingsley, P

Saturday: Tigers vs. Angels

Magglio Ordonez is back in the starting lineup, but Jim Leyland said he’s going to DH him. Magglio said he was still sore, but otherwise fine. He compares the cramping of his abdominal muscles to back spasms.


  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, LF
  3. Ordonez, DH
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Inge, 3B
  6. Raburn, RF
  7. Laird, C
  8. Sizemore, 2B
  9. Everett, SS

P: Jeremy Bonderman


  1. Erick Aybar, SS
  2. Howie Kendrick, 2B
  3. Bobby Abreu, RF
  4. Hideki Matsui, DH
  5. Kendry Morales, 1B
  6. Juan Rivera, LF
  7. Mike Napoli, C
  8. Brandon Wood, 3B
  9. Reggie Willits, CF

P: Scott Kazmir

Saturday: Tigers vs. Mariners

As expected, Ryan Raburn is in right field today, with Magglio Ordonez at DH. Raburn is batting second today in place of Johnny Damon, who gets the night off.

That was expected. What wasn’t expected was that Gerald Laird was iffy for today with back soreness. That was the reason Jim Leyland took him out of last night’s game for the late innings. It wasn’t just a matter of resting some regulars in a game that was out of hand. However, Laird said today he feels good enough to play, so he gets the start behind the plate. Laird and Sizemore flip in the batting order, though. Alex Avila will start Sunday with Max Scherzer on the mound.


  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Raburn, RF
  3. Ordonez, DH
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, LF
  6. Inge, 3B
  7. Sizemore, 2B
  8. Laird, C
  9. Everett, SS

P: Justin Verlander


  1. Ichiro Suzuki, RF
  2. Chone Figgins, 2B
  3. Franklin Gutierrez, CF
  4. Jose Lopez, 3B
  5. Ken Griffey Jr., DH
  6. Milton Bradley, LF
  7. Casey Kotchman, 1B
  8. Adam Moore, C
  9. Jack Wilson, SS

P: Ryan Rowland-Smith

Too much pitching? Not according to Leyland

With eight or nine potential starting pitchers and a slew of relievers, speculation has percolated on what the Tigers might be able to do on the trade front by the end of Spring Training. Teams always need pitching, and the Tigers could use some offensive help, right?

Right, but there’s another statement that Leyland likes.

“The old adage that you can never have enough pitching will always hold true,” Leyland said Saturday morning.

“We don’t have too much pitching. I like what we’ve got. I’m really happy with what we’ve got. But the old adage still applies.”

That doesn’t mean that Leyland is against any trades. That’s Dave Dombrowski’s department. But clearly, Leyland likes to have as much pitching as he possibly can.

Leyland cited another phrase of his.

“There’s no such thing as a 12th pitcher for me,” he said. “If you’re going to be good, every pitcher is important.”

As evidence, he cited 2006, when Jason Grilli made some key appearances for them, and Zach Miner proved vital as a fill-in starter for Mike Maroth over the summer.

As far as the lefty relief corps, Leyland didn’t argue the point that they can probably only take three southpaws in the bullpen. But he did point out that Phil Coke and Bobby Seay both have a history of effectiveness against right-handed hitters.

More tidbits from Saturday morning:

  • Jose Valverde arrived at camp today and is working out, so all pitchers have reported. Max St. Pierre also reported, leaving Gerald Laird as the lone catcher not in camp yet.
  • Magglio Ordonez quietly came in today, quickly grabbed a bat and headed for the cages. He’s ready to go. Miguel Cabrera and Carlos Guillen aren’t here yet, but should be in the next few days.
  • On the top of relief pitching, Leyland mentioned a note he received following last year’s tiebreaker loss. “I got a letter from a lady chewing me out for not bringing in Verlander in relief,” he said. That wasn’t going to happen.
  • Leyland said he’ll use Valverde similar to how he used Fernando Rodney, bringing him in just for one-inning saves unless it’s an emergency situation, extra innings or he needs work to stay fresh.

Tigers still aren't looking for a DH

Just in case others thought the Tigers’ search for a left-handed bat had changed their outlook on adding a designated hitter, team president/general manager Dave Dombrowski reiterated that stance Saturday at TigerFest.

He isn’t ruling out adding a bat. But they’d better bring a glove with them.

“If we sign somebody, and we’ve said this all wintertime, we don’t want them to just DH,” Dombrowski said Saturday. “If we would ever do anything, that person needs to be primarily somebody that can play another position. Because we want to keep our DH spot open. Magglio and Carlos are in [the stage of] their careers, and even Miguel — but not to that extent — we’d like to give them a day off now and then. So for us, it’s important to be able to have that guy play another position. There are a lot of what I consider DH-type bats out there, but we’re really trying to put an emphasis on going and getting the ball and playing good defense. And so that flexibility for us is important.”

Bill James predicts 22 HRs for Raburn

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So what happens every November, right around the time that the Bill James Handbook comes out, is that they send out an email to writers detailing what they project for the next season from certain players on their team. Generally, it’s a look at last season’s stats and a projection whether the player will build on those numbers or regress.

This year’s version is out, and the projections include a 22-homer season in 439 at-bats from Ryan Raburn, But as Bill James admitted in the email, they can’t predict or project playing time.

The projection on Raburn includes a .276 average, 73 RBIs and 10 stolen bases. What interested me, though, were projections for some of the hitters. Curtis Granderson, under their scenario, would bat .275 with 27 homers, 76 RBIs, 17 stolen bases and an .844 OPS — keeping a lot of his home-run power while still getting a bounceback on batting average. Magglio Ordonez is projected to bat .311 with 17 HRs and 84 RBIs.

On the pitching side, Rick Porcello would get a bit of a sophomore slump, going 10-11 with a 4.25 ERA in 195 innings.

Monday: Tigers vs. Twins

Magglio Ordonez was in the lineup for the rainout last night, but he isn’t in there today. With the doubleheader, Leyland was not going to start Magglio both games, instead giving Clete Thomas a shot in the opener after his nice game over the weekend.

More interesting might be the fact that Gerald Laird will probably catch both games. He’s in the lineup for the opener to work with Rick Porcello, which has been a good combination, and Laird has been working with Justin Verlander for all but one start this year.


  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Thomas, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Huff, DH
  6. Guillen, LF
  7. Laird, C
  8. Inge, 3B
  9. Santiago, SS

P: Rick Porcello


  1. Denard Span, CF
  2. Orlando Cabrera, SS
  3. Joe Mauer, C
  4. Jason Kubel, RF
  5. Michael Cuddyer, 1B
  6. Delmon Young, LF
  7. Jose Morales, DH
  8. Matt Tolbert, 3B
  9. Nick Punto, 2B

P: Nick Blackburn

Wednesday: Thomas starts over Magglio

If Jim Leyland was going to give Magglio Ordonez a day off against a right-hander down the stretch, he figured Wednesday was a good day to it. Justin Masterson has a sinker that presents a tough matchup, and his lefty-righty splits are especially vast, giving Leyland a reason to give Clete Thomas a start. He thought about giving Alex Avila a start to get another lefty bat in there, but wanted Gerald Laird catching Porcello again, as he has throughout this recent roll.


  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Thomas, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Huff, DH
  6. Guillen, LF
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Laird, C
  9. Santiago, SS

P: Rick Porcello

Boras: Tigers getting Magglio of old

On the night Magglio Ordonez was set to get the final few plate appearances to guarantee his $18 million contract option for 2010, his agent pointed to Ordonez’s second half as a sign that the Tigers have a productive hitter coming, both for the final stretch this year and for next season.

“Magglio gives the Detroit Tigers in 2010 a lot of options,” agent Scott Boras said by phone Tuesday. “I think he’s going to be again having a very clear mind as he approaches 2010. I think Magglio will be the Magglio of old and will be producing like he’s been producing since the All-Star break.”

Ordonez entered Tuesday batting .364 since the All-Star break with a .959 OPS. His .521 slugging percentage in the seasons’ second half is higher than his .494 percentage from last year as well as his .512 career mark.

“The point we made all along is that Jim Leyland is a veteran manager,” Boras said. “He’s watched Magglio Ordonez for years. He knows what kind of hitter he is. And I think that Magglio went through a rough time personally. These guys are human beings.”

“Historically with great hitters, by playing them every day, they will come out of it.”

The option year was a key part of the contract Ordonez signed with Detroit as a free agent in January 2005. Because Ordonez was coming off knee surgery performed overseas, correcting a problem that limited him to half-season with the White Sox in 2004, the Tigers wanted to be protected in case Ordonez had more problems down the road, while Ordonez and Boras wanted long-term security.

“I think the key was we had begun a negotiation wanting a seven-year contract for Magglio,” Boras recalled, “and the club essentially responded with a five-year proposal. The way we bridged the gap to get a deal done was to put the performance bonuses in the contract.”

Asked if he felt like the option had been a distraction to Ordonez, Boras pointed to the numbers.

“You have to look at Magglio’s performance as the beginning of that question,” Boras said, “and he’s been performing extraordinarily well. He’s been getting offensive production.”