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Injury updates: Slow going for Miner

The roster is set, the bags are packed and the Tigers are about to head north. It’s a pretty quiet morning here in Lakeland. It’s a travel day except for those who are staying back. Jeremy Bonderman is one of them, since he’ll be pitching in a minor league game this weekend to stay fresh between now and his scheduled start next Saturday in Detroit. The other two guys are the injured Tigers, Zach Miner and Bobby Seay.

Seay, we know, is going to be here a while. He’s going to get his rehab plan from Dr. James Andrews shortly, and then go about the exercises he needs to strengthen his shoulder and take stress off his torn rotator cuff, or at least the specific tendons involved in the tear.

Miner, meanwhile, looks like he’s going to be on the disabled list longer than the minimum stay. Because the Tigers placed on the DL last week, he’s eligible to be activated as soon as next weekend, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. While his arm is getting a lot stronger, he still has some discomfort in his elbow. He isn’t going to be cleared to throw until he’s pain-free, so it’s slow going right now.

Seay has torn rotator cuff, will rehab

UPDATE @1:45pm: Head athletic trainer Kevin Rand expressed some confidence Saturday afternoon that Seay can get back with rehab and avoid surgery. “I have a pretty good feeling we can get him through all that,” Rand said.

Tigers reliever Bobby Seay told Saturday morning that he has a torn rotator cuff, but will try to rehab through the injury rather than undergo surgery that could threaten his career.

The veteran left-hander visited Thursday with orthopaedic specialist Dr. James Andrews, who gave him his options. Surgery, he was advised, should be a last resort and only if rehab doesn’t work, because the track record of pitchers coming back from it and throwing effectively isn’t as good as it is for other procedures. It would cost him at least a year, and it’s far some certain he would be come back as the same pitcher.

“It’s an injury you have to try to rehab through,” Seay said. “You have to exhaust all your options.”

Seay said the injury was called a Grade 2 undersurface tear. It nearly qualified as a Grade 3 tear, which would be the most severe on the scale and close to a complete tear. It involves the supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendons, and it doesn’t heal itself. The hope for rehab is to strengthen the muscles and everything around the injury to take as much pressure off it as possible.

The minimum time for a rehab program, Seay said, is six weeks. There is a history of pitchers who have avoided surgery and pitched effectively with a rotator cuff, including Todd Stottlemyre. On the other side, Pedro Martinez underwent rotator cuff surgery a few years ago and has come back to pitch effectively.

Still, the news is basically a worst-case scenario for the Tigers, and certainly for the 31-year-old Seay, who was coming off a season where he set a career high with 67 appearances. He was on track to be a critical part of the bullpen this year, and he’s eligible for free agency at season’s end.

The Tigers placed Seay on the 15-day disabled list Saturday. With Seay sidelined, fellow lefty Phil Coke becomes critical in Detroit’s bullpen. So, too, could Fu-Te Ni, who was effective pitching alongside Seay for the second half of last season.

Seay has had pain in his shoulder ever since he began throwing again this winter. He tried to pitch through it, but was shut down after his first side session of Spring Training produced pain he hadn’t felt before.

The injury was originally diagnosed as bursitis in his upper arm and tendinitis in his shoulder, and he tried to throw again after taking medication and getting some rest. His first side session went well, but he couldn’t lift his arm into position to throw when he tried to do it again. Seay underwent an MRI exam last week.

“At least I have some clarity as far as what’s going on,” Seay said.

It’s entirely possible Seay was pitching with the injury down the stretch last year, and that the pain only surfaced once his shoulder cooled down over the offseason.

Seay says he never had tendinitis/bursitis

Bobby Seay has at least some preliminary information from his MRI exam taken on his shoulder over the weekend. We don’t know exactly what it is, and Seay doesn’t want to say until he consults with more specialists, but we know what it’s not.

“Never bursitis. Never tendinitis,” Seay said Tuesday afternoon.

Those were the initial parts of the diagnosis from team doctors last month. Seay received treatment to try to work his way through it and made some slow progress, but ran into more pain after trying to throw a second mound session.

Seay visited with Rays team physician Dr. Koco Eaton today. He’ll travel to Pensacola, Fla. for a visit with Dr. James Andrews on Thursday, then will consult with specialist Dr. Craig Morgan sometime next week.

“If it’s your career, you’re going to try to hear what everybody has to say,” Seay said.

Last weekend was the first MRI Seay had this spring. He did not have an MRI last month. Sorry for the mixup on that.

Seay has test, awaiting word from doctors

Bobby Seay had his MRI exam over the weekend, but is awaiting word from doctors on the results. Head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said today that Seay will visit Rays team physician Dr. Koco Eaton on Tuesday and Dr. James Andrews on Thursday to go over what they see in the results.

As for Zach Miner, he’s going to be examined by team physician Dr. Stephen Lemos on Thursday and won’t throw until then.

Seay definitely out, set to have MRI

Bobby Seay had a setback in his bullpen session Saturday morning and will have another MRI exam on his ailing left shoulder.

Seay said he will have the exam in the next couple days was expected to have the exam Saturday and have the results checked out by a few specialists, including orthopaedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews. Seay had an MRI last month after he was first shut down from throwing, but results showed no structural damage.

Manager Jim Leyland said Saturday it’s a certainty that Seay will begin the season on the disabled list.

The news was somewhat better on fellow Tigers reliever Zach Miner, whose MRI results came back negative. He has been diagnosed with a muscle strain around his elbow and hopes rest and treatment will allow him to start throwing again in the coming days.

Miner is still hopeful he can be ready for Opening Day. Leyland indicated he isn’t sure.

Seay was originally diagnosed with bursitis in his upper left arm and tendinitis in the shoulder. He had started throwing last week and began throwing off a mound earlier in the week. His latest attempt, though, stopped before it started.

“Throwing in the bullpen today, I couldn’t get my arm in a throwing position,” Seay said.

That was the indication that it was time for another look in the elbow. His next exam will include a dye injection in the elbow to give a more detailed view.

Seay just wants to know. He’s been dealing with discomfort since he started his throwing program in January, and he wants to get it healthy rather than make it worse.

“At this point, I’m just fed up with the pain associated with trying to get loose and feelings in my arm I shouldn’t be having,” he said. “Whether it’s major or minor, I have to get some peace of mind to know what’s going on.”

With Seay out, the Tigers go from having a potential surplus of left-handed relievers to trying to fill in without their veteran lefty specialist. Phil Coke is all but certain to be part of the group, having been taken out of consideration for a starting role a couple weeks ago. Sidearmer Fu-Te Ni was a valuable reliever down the stretch last year after a midseason call-up. Offseason signing Brad Thomas has had success this spring. Daniel Schlereth is a valuable relief prospect after coming over from Arizona in the Edwin Jackson trade, but he has had his share of spring struggles.

Seay set to throw side session

Bobby Seay’s throwing program has progressed to the point that he’s ready to throw off a mound. That’s apparently coming up Tuesday in Lakeland, either live BP or a simple bullpen session. If he gets through that, he could be pitching in game action of some sort soon.

The Tigers have a simulated game Thursday to get innings for Max Scherzer while Dontrelle Willis starts in the regular game that day. Not sure if that would be an option for Seay at this point. Regardless, one could envision Seay pitching in game action of some sort by the end of the week.

That would give Seay around two weeks, maybe a little less, before the Tigers break camp and head north. If Seay needs 10 outings to get ready for the season, that clearly isn’t going to happen in that time frame. If he can be ready in, say, five or six outings, that might be doable. But manager Jim Leyland said he doesn’t have a number in mind.

Seay set to throw Wednesday, Inge could play by weekend

Bobby Seay said Monday he’s now on track to throw from distance on Wednesday as he tries to stretch out his arm again following bursitis and tendinitis around his left shoulder. That much he knows.

As for what this means for his potential readiness for Opening Day, he didn’t want to speculate until he gets on a mound again. But his answers cast pretty good doubt.

“Tough to say,” Seay said. “That’s my goal. Again, I want to be 100 percent, throw all my pitches.”

He’s making progress, he said, but it’s clearly slow progress. It’s better than how he had been doing, but it might not be enough to get him to regular-season shape by the end of camp.

The Opening Day readiness for Brandon Inge, by contrast, is looking better and better right now, though he has yet to play in a game. That wasn’t expected to happen for another couple weeks until the original scenario, but there are increasing indications he’s going to beat that timetable by quite a bit. Inge won’t come out and say he wants to play this weekend, but signs are pointing in that direction.

Seay still not throwing, but no re-exam yet

Lefty reliever Bobby Seay was held back from throwing once again Saturday, furthering his absence to two weeks and counting since he reported pain from his first bullpen session. But he has not yet been sent out to be re-examined, and probably won’t until next week.

Seay has been diagnosed with bursitis around his left biceps and tendinitis in his rotator cuff. Head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said Friday afternoon that they were hoping to get Seay throwing again Friday or Saturday after trying a different course of treatment. Neither day did Seay feel well enough to play catch, let alone throw off a mound. He’s feeling better than he was a few days ago, Rand said, but still not well enough to pitch.

Any second look at Seay’s shoulder probably won’t take place until at least Monday, when team doctors are in town for minor league physicals. There has been no talk of sending Seay to a specialist quite yet, and probably won’t be until team doctors get another look at him.

Seay update: Not good, not bad

The expected throwing session Bobby Seay was supposedly going to have today didn’t take place, head athletic trainer Kevin Rand confirmed a little bit ago, but that doesn’t necessarily mean more bad news. Rand said they decided with the course of treatment they were taking to give him one more day of rest before going back at it Saturday. He did not get re-examined, and any new tests wouldn’t take place until early next week, when team doctors are back in town for minor league physicals.

Seay’s shoulder is better than before, Rand said, but still not where they want it to be for him to get back to pitching. That doesn’t mean Seay is headed for the disabled list to start the year, not when they have four weeks of spring training left. Still, if Seay usually needs 10 appearances to get ready for the season, he might have to go with less this spring.

Bobby Seay update: Shoulder still hurts

Updated …

The Tigers aren’t anywhere near the point of saying Opening Day is at risk for injured lefty reliever Bobby Seay. Head athletic trainer Kevin Rand indicated they have plenty of time left in camp to get him ready for the season.

“Obviously, we’re just at the beginning of Spring Training,” head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said Thursday afternoon. “We have time, obviously still, to get him ready for the season. And, by the same token, we want to make sure that he’s right. There’s no sense rushing him and putting him in a position where you lose him for a longer period of time.”

They’re not willing to let him throw off a mound until he’s pain-free. And right now, his shoulder still hurts, partly from the bursitis in his left biceps, partly from tendinitis in his rotator cuff.

“Once I get loose, it feels OK,” Seay said Thursday afternoon. “It’s after the fact.”

It takes Seay quite a while get his arm loose. Once he throws, he feels good. As soon as he stops throwing and the arm cools down, the pain settles in again.

“The soreness comes very quickly,” Seay said, “and it seems to take longer to recover.”

It’s better now than it was a week ago, he said, but it’s not good enough. He’s scheduled to throw again on Friday. If it’s a problem still, it might become more of a concern.

Team doctors will be in town next Monday to conduct physicals on players for the start of minor-league camp. If Seay isn’t showing much improvement by then, Rand said, they could have him re-examined.

Likewise, Seay hasn’t said that Opening Day is a real concern for him yet. But he said he needs to get going to get what would be his normal amount of throwing in before the season starts.

“I think the work you put into Spring Training dictates your season,” Seay said. “I’m working hard, but I can’t do a lot as far as throwing. It’s obviously irritating to me, because I want to be here, I want to contribute and I want to be part of this team. Right now I feel like I’ve taken a step forward, but there are still lingering issues in the same area of my arm.”

How quickly those lingering issues disappear has a big effect on the Tigers bullpen. Detroit has plenty of depth in lefty relief, but not so much in veteran relief. Phil Coke’s role in the bullpen becomes all the more vital with Seay gone, as does potentially Fu-Te Ni. The door opens a crack further for Brad Thomas, whom the Tigers regard as a veteran reliever because of his time overseas. And Daniel Schlereth’s power lefty arsenal becomes  a little more appealing in a later-inning role.