Saturday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Royals

Jose Iglesias is in the starting lineup after leaving last night’s game with a bruised right hand. James McCann gets behind the plate for Daniel Norris, while Andrew Romine gets the start at third. McCann is just 1-for-14 against Royals starter Yordano Ventura, but has caught Daniel Norris for his last three starts, and nine of his 12 starts this season.

On the Royals’ side, Salvador Perez returns to the lineup after missing last night’s game with a sore knee. Youngsters Hunter Dozier and Raul Mondesi get starts against Norris.

Reminder: Today is a 1:05 p.m. ET start, not 1:10, due to the FOX network broadcast.

Gameday | TV: FOX, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, MLB Gameday Audio

tigerroarlogoTIGERS (career numbers vs. Ventura)

  1. Ian Kinsler, 2B (9-for-29, double, 2 walks, 3 K’s)
  2. Cameron Maybin, CF (3-for-6, double, K)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B (5-for-21, double, 2 walks, 7 K’s)
  4. Victor Martinez, DH (7-for-26, 3 HR, 4 walks, 5 K’s)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (8-for-17, 3 doubles, 7 walks, 3 K’s)
  6. Justin Upton, LF (1-for-11, walk, 3 K’s)
  7. James McCann, C (1-for-14, 3 K’s)
  8. Andrew Romine, 3B (4-for-13, 2 walks, 4 K’s)
  9. Jose Iglesias, SS (6-for-20, double, K)

P: Daniel Norris

sluggerrrrROYALS (numbers off Norris)

  1. Paulo Orlando, CF (0-for-5, walk)
  2. Cheslor Cuthbert, 3B (2-for-6, double)
  3. Eric Hosmer, DH (1-for-7, double, walk, 3 K’s)
  4. Kendrys Morales, 1B (2-for-10, walk)
  5. Salvador Perez, C (0-for-5, K)
  6. Alex Gordon, LF (2-for-2, double, walk)
  7. Alcides Escobar, SS (3-for-7, triple, HR, walk, K)
  8. Hunter Dozier, RF
  9. Raul Mondesi, 2B (0-for-4, 2 K’s)

P: Yordano Ventura


Last 9 games , McCann 156.182.313 .494
Saltalamacchia 143.136 .143 .279
it was just a day off
With Boyd , JS again

McCann is catching because of his defense, not his offense. KC is second in the AL with 112 SBs. Their OPS is .710, second worst in the league. They need to play small ball to win. Salty has a .733 SBPCT with 33 SBs, whereas McCann is at a .536 SBPCT with only 30 SBs in about one-third more innings behind the dish.

McCann is the best bet for the Tigers at slowing down KC’s running game.

Besides, BA does not mean run production and runs mean wins. Mc Cann has 12 HRs and 47 RBIs to Salty’s 12 HRs and 38 RBIs. And breakouts can occur at any time. See Upton as a prime example.

Bad second inning for Norris….walks walks walks

JD 1 for last 17

Victor in the 4th has already stranded 6…..thought he may of been snapping out of his ineptness but maybe not. Hopefully JD picks him up

According to Gameday, JD swung at 3 balls out of the strike zone and stranded 3 more runners.

I get it Darline but why not yesterday?
You hate to see the clean-up and then the #5 hitter fail with the bases loaded and 1 out—especially when you have a chance to knock the starter out and pretty much claim the game.
Worried about the Brothers.

3rd time through for Daniel. McCann needs to guide him through it wisely

That could have been the turning point of the game. Heck, maybe it was!

JD is bloody awful right now. He should simply decide to just not swing at anything that is not a fastball.
I have never seen Victor whiff so much as he has this year and they all seem to be in very important times.

BA just continues to be inflexible with in game strategy
There was a very obvious bunt situation
With the new pitcher and a sidearmer and McCann up

Long inning for Daniel
Get somebody warming up Brad

22 LOB is enough points for the Lions to have won last Sunday.

Dan, I could not believe it when Miggy was IBB to load them up and I told my wife, VMart will probably KO. Then I looked at her and said I think JD will most likely strand the runners and probably KO! I hate to be right especially on LOB but these 2 guys are struggling & they need both of these guys to produce for the remainder of their season to be successful. That hurts to have 10 hits and only lead 3-1.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many runners left on base today. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to bite them in the behind.

Jd has 2 of the 4 rbi ….maybe he’s coming out of his funk

Surprised to see the lefty Wilson when AW had thrown a couple of pitches only and top of the order has 2 RHB

We all know what Hosmer is going to do

Hate being right

Dan, maybe because it was a night game to be followed by 2 day games.

This was a reply to your earlier question about McCann, not the Wilson situation.

Could any pinch runner for Vmart have scored from 2nd on Upton’s single in the 6th inning?

We noticed that also. Victor sure wasn’t going to score .

Give us a little drama in the 9th, F-Rod.

Yep all the stranded runners

Several dirty words for a blown save.

Hosmer. Morales. Tigers are going to lose this game.

And it’s gone……………………

Awesome……blown save and more …and 8 million runs stranded perfect….typical tigers afraid of winning. 14 count them 14 runners stranded on base. Not like these games are important or anything

The announcer stated what needs to be resolved. Don’t a a swing and miss closer.
The job is infinitesimally more difficult without it.
Frankie has flirted with disaster all year. 40+ savings notwithstanding.
Knew Hosmer would do what he did.

What makes things even more difficult now is the change in momentum we had plus the fact that the team will not be comfortable in another close-out situation again.
Reality is Tiger hitters choked in the clutch today far too often.

Correct Dan. Our guy uses smarts and an above average change to close games; today proved that you need a flamethrower or a slider artist to seal the job with no sweat. This was a gut wrencher of a defeat; 2 outs, 2 tikes and you give up five runs.
I sure hope that taste doesn’t last long. RISP success was non existent. This is why i cry so much about Miggy and Victor, and Julio. These guys have a job to do and they didn’t do it:
1. Kinsler and Maybin pretty much did their job.
2. Solid relief from the sixth to the 8th.
3. Led all the way until 2 outs in the 9th.
Kudos to the leadoff guys and JUp. Norris, though stressed did his job. Needed all three from the Royals. Can’t believe 10 hits in the first four and only 2 runs. 3-4-5-6 need to be rackin for the last 8.

That 4th inning with bases juiced, 1 out and the Martinez “BOYS” both striking out killed the opportunity to potentially be up 4,5,6 even 7-1 with still 1 out. Disappointed to be up 4-2 at home playing for something in the 9th inning and giving it away!

Frankie has to be able to put away 2 hitters with 2 strikes that come from Corn Island Nicaragua and Brazil.This has been my fear-in-waiting all season with him. Also why I have mentioned the need for a backup plan.
And for those who may think that these are professionals and don’t let stuff like this affect their play—you don’t need to look any further than the ground ball to Kinsler following the morale destroying homer.

Jd stranded a few but he also drove in 2…I wouldn’t say that wasn’t doing your job …like Victor who’s sole job is to drive in runs and he failed miserably

JD is still out of sorts though he did come thru with some singles that at least contributed to some runs. He is still not hitting like we need him to.
Your big guys have to come up big at this time of year–big-time big I mean.
Kind of like Bautista just did for the Blue Jays.
As to the expected “apology” form Frankie (not the first time he has done that this year?
Disingenuous IMO.
It was preceded by this nonsensical excuse:
“Two outs, no doubles — that’s what I’m thinking,” he said. “Anything above any outfielder’s heads has got to be a homer. That’s why I got a shock. A base hit right there, maybe score one, somebody goes to third and that’s it. Minimize the damage.”
BS and if I am Cameron Maybin I’m a little choked with my closer right now. That ball was smoked and barrelled up.
There has always been something about Frankie that has irritated me. Personal life, excuses, reporting late for Spring Training, “family issues”, etc.
It appears as though the really good teams that will go far put the proper emphasis on acquiring a shut-down closer this year. Chapman, Miller and Kimbrel kinda prove the point.

Way too many runners left on base again. JD did how ever knock in 2 I think . Then Frankie fails to get it done . Blown save here we go again.
But in the 4 th inning they had chances to score and could not. Brad should have been to the mound right away.

Let’s just hope we can get some decent ball played tomorrow. Today was disappointing in not being able to move runners.
Maybin is not bunting enough and yes I know he has been hitting. McCann was in a obvious bunt situation with man 2nd and nobody out.
Brad throwing AW for 1/3 of an inning early made no sense to me.

Dan, I am totally on the same page as far as Kimbrel, Chapman or Oliver being the type of strikeout/shutdown Closer the Tigers need and have commented to that effect several times this year. As far as K-Rod goes, his Save total has been stellar, but I too have noted how uncomfortable his grounder/flyball style has often left me. Verducci made those same points today during his broadcast Ironically, even though I think Greene has outstanding stuff, I feel the troubled Rondon may be more viable in the 9th inning than either K-Rod or Greene He may well have matured into at least resembling the type of Closer I believe the Tigers need.

Another typical blown save….Orlando has done this to the Tigers repeatedly throughout the season…Maybin looked like he was playing in short cenerfield…
When K-Rod blows a game…(.normally, a game lasts at least a couple of hours,)
he does it in 15 minutes….I sat through a few of these games, and you can almost sense what is going to happen….It seemed KC was a sleep for 8 and half innings
and someone woke them up…I wonder who? K-Rod

Krod couldn’t get Orlando and Dawn out tonight

The Tigers are 72-2 when leading to begin the 9th,.They have a closer,They would not be better with a rookie with one pitch who struggled in AAA.Theydont give points for style 44 saves are not luck
The Tigers sre 14 games over 500 with Maybin.Below 500 without him.He has 10 hits in the last 5 games.
Bunting is losing strategy.It was the moment for a PH not giving an out with Mcant “hitting”
In the end was just one (tought) loss.There was no way to go 10-0

Well, I’m hanging with Verducci and Dan on the Closer issue. Papa Grande had great numbers and virtually NEVER FAILED until the end and he could K people. Still, he made me uncomfortable . I am sure I do not stand alone in that regard.

Rondon has been lights out of late and may be turning into the Closer that better evaluators of talent than any on this Blog envisioned.

The idea that bunting is a losing strategy is nonsense that has been perpetrated by metrics people who only look at baseball through Fantasy tinted glasses. Utilized correctly and in the proper situations, bunting can win games. As far as bunting goes, it is much too generalized a stat and that kind of thing does not necessarily apply to specific situations.

No. It was a loss that should not have happened. And it was the fault of our closer who has a hard time keeping runners off the bases and missing bats when it is imperative he do so.
He has lost 4 games. 5 Blown Saves. 7.7 K/IP; 2.3 K/BB ratio
Not saying we should have Jimenez over Frankie. Just saying a championship team has to have better.
Rondon will start getting more consideration.
Hey, at least he is Venezuelan.
Bunting is not a losing strategy it is an alternative way to move runners and force the other team to make mistakes. It is situational and today was the ideal situation with McCann against the side-armer who he was not going to hit.
Maybin and Aybar can show bunt. They can bunt for hits. I know Maybin has been hitting. But speed also complicates things for the defense. Nothing wrong with keeping the guessing. Nothing wrong with employing all your weapons.
There is no way this team can win the post season unless they enter the 9th inning of their games by 3 runs or better.
Francisco Rodriquez was a fantastic relief pitcher.

If I haven’t said enough to infuriate let me add what will surely be dismissed out of hand.
Send Moya to instructional league and teach him to play 1st base.
He is not going to break the OF next year but we still desperately need a power LHB to deal with opposing pitching staffs.
Miggy is going to need the odd day off from defensive responsibilites to prolong his career and keep him healthier for the season.
Yes that means less of V Mart-much less.
This team needs more balance in the lineup and more speed.
Avila needs to make a couple of beneficial trades this off-season.
Wouldn’t it be nice to be playing in Baltimore rather than Atlanta?
McCann is losing confidence. It is palpable. And he is my Tiger.
No way Casty comes back like JD did this year.
Guys that are not going to help us here on out:
Guys that could but won’t get the chance:
Guys we need to step up and take charge:
Uncle Ian
Almighty Bruce
Guys that need to surprise:
Justin Wilson
Guys that need to cut their swings down:
Pretty much everybody other than Maybin and Aybar
Guys that have to overcome being overdue for failure:

KRod Second in saves in the AL. 5 BSv. 4 times a 4 outs save
Chapman , suspended a month for domestic violence, 3 BS
Miller is not a closer. 2 BS 21 % IR
Kimbrel . 2 BS 27 % IR 2-4

Castellanos says he is ready.
“Nick, I can’t put you in a game if you haven’t played a game.”
“…we’re just not going to do that. It’s unfair to the player, and it’s unfair to the other players on the team.”

Jose Fernandez dies in boating accident. Just awful news.

Gut wrenching loss. And It has happened to every good team, some fairly recently. It will happen again to somebody. It’s a new day. El T is right. Though maybe today, if there is a save opportunity, Brad will have a decision to make in light of K Rod’s pitch count yesterday. Sometimes you’re forced to trust another guy to step up. There are options. Re: the hit, Maybin might have been playing too shallow. But no excuse for K Rod. And if he was trying to use that, shame on him. Re: Nick, I agree with Brad’s quote. How is he going to help now? Maybe as a pinch hitter.

Very sad news about Jose….when I saw him in interviews he always seemed grounded fun loving and genuine. Rip

The Jose Fernandez news is hard to take. I saw him pitch several times this season, including the Tigers game in April. A talented and likeable young man.

Iglesias: “He’s a guy that left everything behind him to make a dream come true, and for it to end so quickly like this, it’s very sad.”

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