Saturday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Angels

For real this time: Jose Iglesias is off the disabled list and in the Tigers starting lineup at shortstop. He was in a 5-for-35 slump when he went on the DL a couple weeks ago, but he went 6-for-16 over his four-game rehab assignment. He has yet to face Brett Oberholtzer, who gets the start for the Angels tonight in place of Jhoulys Chacin. Former Tiger Jefry Marte gets the start at third base, his first game action since last Saturday.

Those mid-afternoon storms that rolled into the area washed out batting practice at Comerica Park, but they’re expected to head out of town by game time.

Note that tonight’s game is an FS1 broadcast. If the earlier game runs late, the Tigers game will begin on Fox Sports Detroit before moving over.

Gameday | TV: FS1, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, MLB Gameday Audio

84tigerslogoTIGERS (career numbers vs. Oberholtzer)

  1. Ian Kinsler, 2B (3-for-10, 2 doubles)
  2. Cameron Maybin, CF
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B (2-for-6, HR, K)
  4. Victor Martinez, DH (1-for-5, walk)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (0-for-6, 3 K’s)
  6. Justin Upton, LF
  7. Casey McGehee, 3B (0-for-0, walk)
  8. James McCann, C
  9. Jose Iglesias, SS

P: Michael Fulmer

halologoANGELS (numbers off Fulmer)

  1. Kole Calhoun, RF (0-for-2, walk)
  2. Mike Trout, CF (0-for-3, 2 K’s)
  3. Albert Pujols, DH (0-for-1, K)
  4. C.J. Cron, 1B (1-for-3)
  5. Andrelton Simmons, SS
  6. Jefry Marte, 3B (0-for-3, K)
  7. Nick Buss, LF
  8. Carlos Perez, C (0-for-2, walk)
  9. Kaleb Cowart, 2B

P: Brett Oberholtzer


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So what happened to Chacin?

moved to the BP

The last time: the Nats managers orders an IBB and the pitcher throws a strike

Where are the Tigers regular announcers?

Repeat play from last night. Maybin out stealing. Miggy walks which would have put Cam on 2nd and a possible run scored on V-Mart’s hit. Last night same play with McCann caught stealing, next batter walks and next batter singles. I know we like to see them aggressive but these hurt.

Fulmer can’t locate the strike zone….I think we may just be in trouble

I wonder if the pitching coach might want to get off his behind and go talk to Fulmer? Pitches missing like crazy or their tattooing them.

Great Victor…..getting yourself thrown out …STUPID.

Fullmer may not be handling the time off like management was hoping for. He probably needs to throw every 5days. That HBP set up that whole dreadful inning.

Miggy looked at 3 strikes. The sap of energy followed through to Victor. Frustrated.
Give credit to the Angels pitcher he is painting.
There have been some bad low pitch calls against Detroit which also contributed to the exchange with the ump.

Fullmer doesn’t have it at all tonight.

Negative attention for Victor. I wasn’t impressed.

Frutration. He was over the top and had several chances to button his lip. Too bad-not a good idea to have your clean-up hitting DH thrown out

And there go Joyner and Ausmus. 4 pitches have been way below the zone

McCann and maybe Kinsler had a beef Victor and Miguel did noy

And JD. The guy is crazy. For once, the ump is really at fault. Pitches against Cabrera and Maybin were well out of the zone and were called strikes

Let’s play better tomorrow boys because you have definitely given up today.
My wife was puzzled about Joyner and Ausmus getting thrown out and I told her that the ump wasn’t finished yet.
And he wasn’t.

AW needs to get the ball down

Really…I’m am the person on here who complains most about the strike zone…and I don’t thinks it’s been as bad as these tigers are making it out to be. McCann…a beef Kinsler close to a beef. The others were on the edge of strikes but strikes. Problem is no comparison for Fulmer because when he missed he missed by a foot. Victor argue for way too long….JD got a quick hook. But guess what ump was consistently giving that low boderline strike get use to it and move on. So now two of our best hitters out…do you decided it was more important to bitch than to be in the game to help the team win. That ticks me off

Please don’t ever let Romine go!!!
The guy does not hit all that well , and certainly doesn’t clobber the ball but he has such a knack of making the big play at the big time. On the field, on the bases and even at the bat at times.
He’s a keeper

Tootblan for Trout

According to Fangrpahs, it was not a strike what was called to Miguel with 3-1. The Ump is bad with Bold B

According to GameDay it was a strike…..I don’t know is one different types than the others?

I don’t see where that shows Miggys ab…..

Left side, red point out of the box, the worst call of the night

The tiger’s should be really way more concerned that they’ve let two crappy pitchers look dominant. Pretty bad

Chacin´s ERA was 2.77 when coming from the BP

Ok he’s given up 12 ER in August. … I’d say it’s somebody they should of been able to hit if they hadn’t concerned themselves with the ump more than winning a game and adjusting……

Tigers’ first batter hits a HR and everybody else takes a snooze? 3 Angel pitchers with 5+ ERA’s.

I would have used Saltalmacchia as PH

Salty is a last ditch resort. His HR power has all but evaporated and his strikeout ration has bloomed. Personally I prefer Romine in that circumstance.
1st inning was a killer. Had the guy on the ropes and couldn’t put him away.

Pitchers with Era’s of 5.16…..5.42….4.9 …and 4.58 and you can only manage 2 runs. Pretty freaking pathetic if you ask me……pretty pathetic.

Lots of people in this game let there big egos dictate the game and that includes the umpire.
Very disappointed in them tonight.

The only guy that impressed me tonight was Andrew.

Another game they let get away. Lets hope they play better tomorrow.

Yes, Upton has had 5 very nice game in the last 7. But, to pronounce him cured is absurdly premature and once again based upon an inanely small sample size. This season, Upton has a .234 BA with a .288 OBP and a .691 OPS. To put that in proper perspective, the hated Whipping Boy Gose , he of vastly superior defensive skills, had a .254 BA with a .321 OBP and a .688 OPS in 2015.

We might have gotten about all we can from Fulmer; he was totally out of sync tonight;no fastball command, no control in general; 4 walks and 2 HBP. And yet the funny thing is that I’ve seen a lot worse from our starters this year. Just don’t want him to end on a downward trend; agree with Dan that he should pitch every fifth day; then shelve him when necessary, and hope you can still make it. Re the saga of Umpire Ejections, not sure that we proved a whole lot except shooting ourselves in the foot.
Brad should have made a wild tirade, been ejected, and then everyone else would just do their job. Luckily for the team, Yankees, Indians, Royals all lost. I was hoping we could get this one, because Sanchez might not have enough to hold the Angels to five hits in five innings:
1. The Bull Pen stood tall tonight,giving us a chance to the last out.
2. Collins at least didn’t embarass himself in the cleanup spot.
3. The only guy who really came to play was Mr. Romine. Donny Kelly might have had a little more spark in the bat, but Andrew always does something to help his team, wherever he plays.
Kudos to Casey, Tyler, Ian for the early lead, and the Pen. Also agree that Salty has become a strikeout machine especially in pinch hit roles. In all reality, I let Iggy bat in the ninth , and PH Salty for Casey, or not at all. Iggy puts the ball in play at a much higher percentage than Jarrod. Just a thought. As a purist of the game, I am ready for computerized ball/strike calling. A missed call by Blue can result in a higher pitch count, or a totally different outcome from the extra batter. Instant replay was adopted to be sure the call was right. Who should decide the outcome of a ballgame, the players on the field or an ump?

Darline, I will take Upton over Gose anytime. Attitude matters. And though I failed to mention it in my post above, Upton did save some runs tonight with his D. No one is going to hit like he did every game, but he is swinging the bat better.

Missed this one. Sorry i jinxed Fulmer saying no gopher balls. From what I saw from game footage, those pitch calls weren’t that bad and I agree with GK. V-Mart and JD were out of line. Every game counts at this point. Getting angry and then thrown out over borderline calls doesn’t cut it when your team is counting on you. With Victor it was just strike one. Give me a break. Looks like Casey did OK. 2 for 3. Romine plays the game the right way all the time. Tigers picked a good night to lose. So does Cleveland, KC, Baltimore, and Seattle. Yankees are making a bid. Better situation for them with ARod gone. 10 out of 15 AL teams still in the hunt.

Getting tossed after strike 3 I understand but the agree with Marty the hullabaloo Victor raised over strike one was pretty absurd.
And again we failed to come up with the BIG hit at the right time.

I never argued for Gose over Upton. Never. My comments about Upton are about his production and to keep that in perspective, especially when his offensive performance is coupled with his poor overall Brick Glove defense. Also, in fact, I am very much okay with Gose being traded. As I commented before, a trade now could well benefit both the Tigers and Gose.

Again, for purpose of perspective on Upton this year, Gose put up superior offense last season by comparison. And he has vastly superior defensive skills. That is not to say Gose is the superior player,

Ausmus: “If he’s going to call those pitches on our hitters, we need those pitches called on their hitters. That’s really the gripe.”. It is about consistency, as I have quoted players saying before. The pitch could hit the dirt and be called strike as soon as he does the same again the other team.

While Perez is above McCann as framer, they get more or less the same amount of strike calls outside of the zone

Jhoulys Chacin was coming for a 6 IP 0 ER 6 hits effort vs the NYY. He was moved to the BP despite those numbers because he is better as reliever and he showed it again.1 ER in 13 IP as reliever in August
His career ERA is 3.99 pitching mostly at Colorado. He is not a Cy Young candidate but his career ERA is better than Porcello´ ERA in a pitchers park.

consistency in calling I agree the problem is Fulmers pitches were not in the same area he had no close pitches everything he threw was very wide. Fulmer gave umpire no chance to give him a break again he was missing by a foot or more.

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