Sunday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Mets

Ian Kinsler gets a rare day off, his first game out of Detroit’s starting lineup since June 19. Casey McGehee, meanwhile, is in a Major League lineup for the first time since the Marlins’ season finale last October 4. McGehee bats seventh behind Justin Upton, while Tyler Collins — making his fourth consecutive start in center in place of injured Cameron Maybin — moves up to leadoff and Jose Iglesias slots into second.

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tigers1927logoTIGERS (career numbers vs. Jacob deGrom)

  1. Tyler Collins, CF
  2. Jose Iglesias, SS
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
  4. Victor Martinez, DH
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF
  6. Justin Upton, LF (2-for-12, 6 K’s)
  7. Casey McGehee, 3B (3-for-11, double, walk, 2 K’s)
  8. James McCann, C
  9. Andrew Romine, 2B

P: Anibal Sanchez

mrmetlogoMETS (career numbers off Sanchez)

  1. Curtis Granderson, RF (2-for-7, HR, walk, 3 K’s)
  2. Alejandro De Aza, CF (4-for-12, 2 doubles, 2 walks, 4 K’s)
  3. Neil Walker, 2B (4-for-17, double, HR, walk, 4 K’s)
  4. Jay Bruce, DH (2-for-8, 2 K’s)
  5. James Loney, 1B (5-for-15, triple, walk, 2 K’s)
  6. Michael Conforto, LF
  7. Travis d’Arnaud, C
  8. Kelly Johnson, 3B (5-for-29, double, triple, HR, 2 walks, 4 K’s)
  9. Matt Reynolds, SS

P: Jacob deGrom


Quite a lineup…..?????

What is it with Ausmus with game three of series where we’ve won the first two games? I know we have some Nick on the DL and Cam on the mend but is is just me that feels when we win the first two games of a series Brad seems to treat the third like a throw away game? I have nothing to base that on other than gut but it just seems to feel that way on many occasions.

Now having written that, how about we see Sanchez throw a gem today while this offense steps up in a big way scoring more than 5 runs and we check off another W on our way to the divisional championship!!

Kinsler is the only one that could be there. Sánchez is less bad with Salty but after a night game, it is McCann
You play the hand you were dealt

You’re right El Tigre. Just venting earlier on something that has seemed to be a pattern but again just a gut feeling. I have no facts to lean on. Would be SO NICE if we could steal this one today. Sanchez looking good through three. Holding my breath as we enter the 4th.

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Maybin should benefit from what amounts to another day and a half of more recovery time with this day off today.
McGehee committed 4 errors at 3rd in 93 games played there for the Hens.

Maybin appears to be very fragile

I’m having a hard time figuring out the strike zone being called today apparently the ump isn’t sure either?

Anibal has pitched 4 very good innings. The Tigers have been given chances from the 2 errors by the Mets but Miggy has killed them both. 3 LOB.

Another chance lost. J-Up and Casey. They did get deGrom the phenom to use a lot of pitches.

5 good innings for Anibal. Low pitch count. Can he hang in there? The BP could use a break.

Not very with the first pitch hitting in the 6th, but do understand why.

He was high in the zone. Tired .

Pretty good job. QS 1R 9 K. BP time

He was really good ……hitters kinda not good at all

I am an unabashed McCann fan but I would PH Salty here

We’re tied.

If we can win this one ———————-anything can happen!!!!

Come on, Tigers, give Anibal a win for a well-pitched game. Indians losing. WSox getting bombed. Shields 8 runs given up.

Well the strike zone is still all over the place.

Oh, geez. The new guy has to do it.

What a mess.

Wow …. major screw up

No No No. Not KRod in a tie game with a nice pitch count for a guy who wants the ball

I was thinking the same thing….he’s thrown a lot lately. Way to go.

Same here.

In fact, I doubted he would close last night because of all the pitches he threw the night before. Brad is just slow when it comes to handling a pitching staff…..still.

Mowery: “Just the fourth time this season K-Rod has worked three straight days, first time since June 20-22 Twice wrong to have him there

F-Rod again. High drama. BA has little confidence in Lowe, Rondon, Hardy and Ryan while over-using Greene, the Wilsons and F-Rod. And as I type this…………OUCH!

Might as well take him out now. He has pitched too much in the past week.
— Bob

I’m so frigging disgusted if we lose this game.

I hoped Anibal would pitch well and he did. I figured deGrom the phenom would be tough and he was. But when JD was cut down and F-Rod came in, oh my……………

That umpire is a crook.

This was my point El T.
Stats are just as important as observations. Maybe more so.
Frankie is predictable and he has been vulnerable and completely predictable. In my mind a closer has to either throw 100+ or have an unhittable pitch.
No way I take Anibal out of that game at that time.
This was a huge game but even losing it as a lot of positivity.
Anibal is throwing well and has gained a level of confidence that announces he is relevant and “back”.

Well they’ve won lately with timely hitting….heads up baseball…decent pitching.
Other than Anibal not much good about the Tigers today…not heads up baseball.

The bullpen is still a problem going forward.
Frankie is NOT lights out and to succeed you NEED someone who can turn out those lights.

Iggy ends it by swinging at 2 pitches that looked out of the strike zone. Try to remember they took the series, it’s only August 7 and the Indians also lost.

Sorry, meant to say observations are just as (or more so) than stats.
Stats are facts and as such are objective. Baseball has a history of of stats but is a game of observable criteria that has a way of negating the facts of stats.
What you see is what you get.
The offense pooped the bed against a predictably effective pitcher today. They needed to do more and they didn’t.
Tough love for Anibal and a justified loss for Frankie (and Brad).

10 lob that says about all you need to know about this game

I believe in observations in baseball, but also think stats can enhance and either validate or invalidate perceptions.To rely TOTALLY on either observations or stats is ridiculous. More so with stats, as there is just too much randomness and plain luck in the game to expect results predicated on historical events painted in mathematical terms. In summary, I find much of this metrics stuff annoying, as apparently do some of the other commenters on this Blog.

I remember the goal coming out of the break was starting to win series; wer’e doing that at a pretty good pace right now. Unfortunate to only score one run for Anabal today. He might end up as the most important X-Factor yet. Frankie should have been passed over today; but guess what; the stupid closer rule falls into place. Tied or ahead, he pitches the ninth unless his arm is dead. Start the ninth with Bruce; the outcome could have been no worse. Miggy took a day off from batting, and we still miss Cam. in the lineup. No ground loss, so let’s move to the next series:
1. Anabal 10 K’s with 0 Walks. Most encouraging.
2. The Kinsler presence in the lineup albeit too late.
3. The Mcgee defensive gem in the 8th.
Kudos to Anabal, Julio, and Victor.
Kinsler needs to play every day. Rest him in blowout situations. Still hoping that Nick is closer to 4 weeks than 7. time to take 2 series on the road.

a 32 saves 2 blown saves record means he is a great closer and the Tigers have no one to replace him.
Miguel? no one will hit every single game of the season. 400 over last 6.

So good to see a super outing by Anibal.
J-up is becoming a F-Up in too many parts of his game. Pretty much a below average LFer and a liability on the base paths.
The sad truth is Tiger fans have been waiting all SEASON for him to show his stripes.
Been getting away with it but we still need some Maybin energy to help out the cause.
Another sad truth is KRod is not fooling batters. Yes, maybe on some individual pitches but not an entire AB. Without that he will make winning a difficult proposition late in games.

On to Seattle and crank up your coffee pots and Keurigs fans. We need your support!!!

Mowery:” Ausmus credited “Trickle-down Frankonomics” for success of bullpen this year”
The most dependable reliever is KRod by far. 2 times he had to come in the 8th
J Wilson has blown 4 saves
A Wilson can be trusted with IR, yes his ERA is the best among relievers in MLB, no word about the runs inflating others ERA.
But for Tiger fans , the consensus is the the key for the Tigers is to take the game from the starters to KRod without losing the lead
BTW: 54-1 when ahead to begin the 9th. Just the facts, not the reaction a to a pretty bad loss

Gotta give credit to Anibal for his work on the mound today . The quicker they can get Maybin back the better . At least the Tribe lost today omit could have been worse .
Maybe Brad should have let Frankie sit this one out . The team needs a entire class in base running 101. !!

Looking at the re-run, I think J-Up caused the problem with JD getting tagged out.
Upton was on his way to 3rd base and JD couldn’t go back to 3rd where it looked like he could have been safe. What does anyone else think?

I think Clark was waving JD home,with Upton headed to third when Clark changed up. Clark changed up again based upon what was happening in the field. and it looked like JD.s head was down and he didn’t see Clark’s newest signal,to head home, which Upton did. It was all bang-bang and pretty chaotic both on the bases and in the field. I.later saw several replays from different angles. In retrospect, I’m not sure anyone was at fault.

10 lob today……..

As far as K-Rod goes, I agree with Dan and most of the other commenters, K-Rod is not a shutdown guy, but his save stats are very good. But, if you believe what you see, K-Rod got banged up in the series and was very fortunate to get his 2 saves. Who to use? ,Rondon is NEVER my first choice. He’s too erratic to count on despite his blazing arm. Justin has had problems with saves. Alex has his place, but is not a closer. Green has the best stuff, but there is a potential overuse problem there. And Jiminez is not available because he is still in the minors because the Tigers don’t want to rush him. None of the alternatives look great to me.

You speak wisely Darline, as often you do.

“Justin is quietly becoming the player the Tigers thought they were getting. His isolated slugging percentage (ISO) has gone up from a pre-All-Star Game mark of .146 to a post-break showing of .208, which is much more in line with his career .198 ISO. That gives him a .801 OPS since the All-Star break, which is much better than his .670 first-half showing”
He has been good in high leverage situation, but nobody wants to see it. Only when he fails is noticed

The 8th inning blunder was all on JD.He is supposed to watch at Clark who has the play in front of him. Even if Clark changed signs

That was my take too. Though mistakes happen, especially in high pressure, chaotic situations…

Also the replay I saw didn’t have Clark changing signs. Upton got it… O well.. go get the Mariners and forget about it.

John Wagner about Jiménez

Close but not ready. Control of FB is excellent, command of FB is just OK. No 2nd pitch = trouble in bigs. #Tigers

Just read Mr. Beck regarding the ill-fated rundown. Per Ausmus: ” It’s not on anybody. It’ not a play that happens often.”

Again, per Mr. Beck: “Tigers’ costly rundown a case of bad angles.”

TigerFan…As I commented before, I saw several replays and several angles on the rundown Since then, Mr. Beck posted his article on the situation entitled “Tigers’ costly rundown a case of bad angles.” Your replay evidently didn’t show the whole story, but Mr. Beck wrote a much more detailed summary than I of the fiasco, which corroborated my comment about the sign changes. Take a peak if you get a chance The story also includes Ausmus’ take on the situation which supported my other earlier comment where I didn’t see anyone at fault.

So, anyway, I think I was pretty solid this time around.

Upton: I guess another clear example of stats (which ones would you care to use?) vs. observation.
The biggest stats I see in Upton’s case are:
1. NOT in top 100 in home runs
2. NOT in top 100 in RBIs
3. NOT in top 100 in OBS (even Melvin is ahead of him)
4. IN top 5 of strike-outs
5. and all for the paltry sum of 14.7 million

As to observations:
Well I see him hitting into DPs with men on, pop-ups with bases loaded, and playing on the warning track in LF

As to Jiminez, well I agree he will not find MLB easy but you have to give these guys a try. You never know how they respond based simply on scouting.
Roberto Osuna had a dreadful career in the minors but has found a niche in the Blue Jay bullpen.

Lineup at SEA: Kinsler 4, Collins 8, Cabrera 3, V. Martinez DH, J. Martinez 9, Upton 7, McGehee 5, Salty 2, Iglesias 6. Fulmer starts.
Maybin CT scan tomorrow

Time to find out about Cameron. It’s not like we have a strong bench to begin with we certainly can’t afford to be at 75%

Gose has been hitting better lately and is still on the 40 man

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