Wednesday’s lineups: Tigers at White Sox

Not back on the beat until tomorrow, but posting lineups while traveling after draft duty and off-time kept me away for a few days. Victor Martinez had knee issues while I was away and remains out. Given Martinez’s numbers against Chris Sale, that’s a sign of at least some seriousness. Justin Upton gets a night at DH, with Mike Aviles — back in the lineup after injuring his wrist yesterday — starting in left. Other than that, pretty standard lineup.

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tigerhitterlogoTIGERS (career numbers off Sale)

  1. Ian Kinsler, 2B (6-for-31, 2 HR, 5 walks, 6 K’s)
  2. Cameron Maybin, CF (2-for-4)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B (9-for-36, 2 HR, 9 walks, 12 K’s)
  4. Nick Castellanos, 3B (1-for-19, walk, 10 K’s)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (7-for-24, 2 doubles, 2 HR, 3 walks, 12 K’s)
  6. Justin Upton, DH
  7. James McCann, C (2-for-10, walk, 4 K’s)
  8. Mike Aviles, LF (6-for-34, HR, 2 walks, 3 K’s)
  9. Jose Iglesias, SS (6-for-14, double, K)

P: Mike Pelfrey

whitelogo1939logoWHITE SOX (career numbers opposite Pelfrey)

  1. Tim Anderson, SS
  2. Adam Eaton, RF (4-for-10, triple)
  3. Jose Abreu, 1B (4-for-11, double)
  4. Melky Cabrera, LF (7-for-25, double, 4 walks, 3 K’s)
  5. Todd Frazier, 3B (2-for-5, walk, K)
  6. Dioner Navarro, C (2-for-6)
  7. Brett Lawrie, 2B (1-for-8, K)
  8. Avisail Garcia, DH (6-for-15, double, K)
  9. J.B. Shuck, CF (1-for-8)

P: Chris Sale


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Pelfrey…So far so good Bottom of 5.If this guy pitches like he has 3 of his last 4 games on a consistent basis he turns this team into a legitimate contender.

Maybe I spoke too soon. Third time through the lineup seems to add up to disaster for Pelfrey.

I simply can’t understand the forgiveness Tiger fans give management and Pelfrey.
The guy is not even mediocre. Period.

As a starting pitcher he will never even break even.
I see potential as a relief pitcher. But to expect him to contribute in the rotation you are only looking at IP and nothing more.

Tigers keep taking chances with Pelfrey . In the long run it all blows up in their face .

Well the guy has a WHIP around 1.80. He gives up Homers, hits, walks you name it and he gives them up. He has won one game. To keep him in the rotation at all is delusional. He was at his BEST tonight. What is that saying?

At least Brad has taken his blinders off here in the 7th.

Sanchez is on, which means I will be holding my breath. I hope I can survive this appearance.

First of all, I have been negative about the Pelfrey signing since the very beginning and was one of those with raised eyebrows, as described by Mr. Beck, at Pelfrey’s contract amount. But, in Pelfrey’s defense, he has been decent in June.

That said, I find it peculiar that some folks believe Pelfrey is in the rotation to eat innings. I don’t see any evidence of his ability to do that. Pelfrey has not thrown over 164.2 innings in a season since 2011. Plus, he has had 13 starts this season with a single game maximum effort of 6.2 innings. I just don’t see Pelfrey as effective going past 6 innings and thru the order three times..

Can’t even imagine what it would be like to have a pen that can strike people out.
I wish Martinez could of played. I wish our first baseman had more than 1 rbi in his last seven and 6 in last 18. He’s simply an easy out. Iglesias has been more productive

I wish this team wouldn’t have squandered Monday.
I wish this team would give Pelfry a little run support.

I think Pelfrey should have been removed by BA after 6 complete. At that point, he had given the Tigers an opportunity to win and the BP could have then taken over with a clean slate. Pelfrey and the BP is what it is. BA needs to recognize their respective limitations and put them in positions for success, not failure.


One thing about Big Mike; he’ll go out there every fifth game, and the Tigers will more than likely lose. That’s all I know; he’s pitched better, he’s been decent, he deserves better run support, buttttttt,he put nearly two runners on base every inning. The team is always under pressure with him on the mound. Solid pitchers have been 1-7, but their ERA is under 3 and the whip is under 1.15. Its not the lack of wins that gripe me; it’s where we are in the game when he leaves. Mostly we are in the hole. I think Dan’s assessment is correct; he would be an effective BP guy to get a DP when needed. A starter, he is not. And before you ump down my throat, it’s just an opinion:
1. Iggy tater # 2 off another Ace Pitcher.
2. Put three on the board against the Thin Man in one inning. problem is, no more runs appeared.
3. We took the lead and couldn’t hold it. Actually lead in all three games and won one.
Kudos to Iggy, Aviles, Casty for the RIB. Ian made a great defensive play in the 8th.
I would love to know the number of games we led into the sixth, yet lost in the last three innings, On to Kaufmann, where the Royals are royalty. At least no Pelfry.

25-8 when they entered the 6th leading the game.

25-7 .They were tied to begin the 6th last night

I think the definition of “innings eater” has evolved in concept much like the number of pitches has evolved over the last generation. A guy doesn’t have to throw 200+ IP now he simply has to start every 5th game and get through 6 in order to “refresh the bullpen”. Pelfrey is just not good enough at either eating innings nor starting every 5th game-however one puts it.

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