Sunday’s lineups: Tigers at Athletics

The last time the Tigers faced Rich Hill last month in Detroit, the former University of Michigan pitcher had twice as many strikeouts (eight) as hits allowed (four) over seven scoreless innings. He’ll face a slightly different lineup today, with James McCann and Cameron Maybin in place of Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Anthony Gose, but the game will most likely come down to how the main cogs in the lineup fare this time around against Hill. Ian Kinsler, Justin Upton, Miguel Cabrera, Victor Martinez, J.D. Martinez and Nick Castellanos combined to go 3-for-18 with six strikeouts in the April 26 matchup.

Mike Pelfrey was the Tigers starter in that game, giving up five runs on nine hits over a season-high 6 2/3 innings. With Michael Fulmer pitching well in his last two outings, and the Tigers debating Shane Greene’s role once he returns from the disabled list shortly, Pelfrey could use a good start in the rematch. As MLB Network pointed out, opponents’ .338 batting average against Pelfrey ranks third-highest among Major League pitchers with at least 40 innings this season. Former Tiger Alfredo Simon (.358) is ahead of him, along with Wily Peralta (also .358).

Gameday | TV: Fox Sports Detroit, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, MLB Gameday Audio

tigerroarlogoTIGERS (career numbers against Hill)

  1. Ian Kinsler, 2B (1-for-3, K)
  2. J.D. Martinez, RF (0-for-3, K)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B (4-for-6, double, HR, 2 K’s)
  4. Victor Martinez, DH (1-for-8, walk, 3 K’s)
  5. Nick Castellanos, 3B (0-for-3, K)
  6. Justin Upton, LF (1-for-5, K)
  7. Cameron Maybin, CF
  8. James McCann, C
  9. Jose Iglesias, SS (1-for-3, K)

P: Mike Pelfrey

elephantsunglasseslogoATHLETICS (career numbers off Pelfrey)

  1. Coco Crisp, LF (4-for-5, double, HR)
  2. Jed Lowrie, 2B (3-for-11, double, walk)
  3. Stephen Vogt, C (2-for-5, double, K)
  4. Danny Valencia, 3B
  5. Khris Davis, DH (2-for-3, K)
  6. Yonder Alonso, 1B (1-for-4)
  7. Marcus Semien, SS (2-for-5, HR)
  8. Chris Coghlan, RF (4-for-21, double, 2 triples, 3 walks, K)
  9. Billy Burns, CF (1-for-4)

P: Rich Hill

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Verlander 4.02 ERA 1.1 HR /9 9.69 SO/9 Scherzer 4.05 1.84 HR/9 11.05 15 HR allowed ( 32 since the ASG, higher HR/9 than Sánchez )
fWAR 1.3 /0.7 ( one is worth around 10 MM ,the former Tiger 5)
Right now, advantage Tigers with Verlander over Scherzer

Verlander´s K rate is his second best ever. Above 2011.His BB/9 is the fourth highest , so some works needed but for a 33 YO is not that bad. His WHIP is 4th best too.

Pelfrey ´s GB/outs is the highest for his career. The defense is helping him. DP% second career best. But he is not keeping the ball down. His GB rate is too low and once in the air , the ball is flying long, way too long. From the best HR/9 in MLB to second worst ( not qualified for ERA)
He was hired based on two premises: good defense will help him and they are doing the job. He will induce a lot of GB, he is failing at that

Blame Kinsler

This sure looked a game they could of won. Then a error takes it all away . Onto tomorrow and maybe a win .

It’s pathetic when 3-5 hits come from a 37 year old DH with one good leg.
1 Martinez- the aforementioned one legged player.
2.Pelfry- Should have actually won a game.
3.Had a chance til the last out.
Boo Hoo! SO INCONSISTENT!

Actually, I listened to the A’s broadcast because I like to consider different perspectives. The broadcasters were rather merciless about Maybin and his defense. They felt he plays way too deep due to a probable problem going back on the ball and said he has trouble playing the sun and showed him on a ball today as well as his misplay from yesterday. When the A’s scored today they showed Maybin hesitating, going to his left and then coming in on a ball they felt was catchable. They also believed Butler’s ball should have been caught. In truth, if that Butler ball had been caught the Tigers win, all other things remaining the same. .

Oh, yeah. I don’t know who said what, but the A’s broadcasters are Ray Fosse, Eric Chavez and Glen Kuiper.

The Tigers dont have a single reliever able to go to the mound and K the hitter. Before this game 40% IR ,well above the League average of 30.
KC success is based on that. DD was right hoarding flame-throwers. He picked the wrong pitchers but the concept was the right one
Coming with a clean slate is for the closer.
Both Wilson, Lowe, VerHagen and Hardy are bad with runners on. A GB can find the hole.

Ausmus played the modern way. He used Wilson early not at his sloted inning

Cabrera has no patience at the plate….with his reputation as a terrific hitter…he’s the boss, you would think…but no,..he has ruined many potential scoring opps
by not at least waiting or being patient…this is my opinion..As far a Maybin is
concerned….why isn’t he playing left field….Upton should be playin center(can’t hit)
Maybin can hit, but his outfield play has much to be desired….no arm and is scary
on high fly balls…Oakland announcers were right in their observations of his outfield play.
I think Kinsler was not feeling well today…it usually shows when he’s at bat….
he just didn’t appear comfortable up there…Good luck against the L.A. Angels,
they usually beat up Tiger pitching…..back to the drawing boards.

Didn’t catch this last series at all. Sounds like Maybin is wanting defensively. Upton sure is no answer. Maybin has a decent track record as a CFer.
Tigers are grooming Jacoby Jones as a CFer at Erie and of course, Derek Hill is in the future.
Gose doesn’t look like a probability and Bernard is a stop gap at best.
For the present they pretty much have to stick with Maybin and hope for the best.
Jiminez saved his first game for Erie today. A clean inning with 3 Ks. 16 pitches 11 strikes.
To fool around with guys like Ferrell, Saupold, Nesbitt, Verhagen, etc is ludicrous.

“Seasons with 30 HR & 100 RBI: A-Rod 14, Babe Ruth 12, Manny 12, Barry Bonds 11, Albert Pujols 11 (in 12 seasons), Hank Aaron 10, Miggy 10.”
I guess he knows how to do it.
Miguel will see one good pitch, the first. The pitcher wants to be ahead.

Wagner, Toledo Blade.

“Collins v. RHPs w/ @MudHens ….219 (14-for-64), 7 BB, 18 K’s.
Collins v. LHPs … .152 (5-for-33), 2 BB, 14 K’s. #Tigers”
“Gose v. RHP w/ @MudHens … .304 (7-for-23), 3 BB, 12 K’s. Gose v. LHPs … .143 (3-for-21), 1 BB, 9 K’s. #Tigers”
“In short, Gose @MudHens numbers skewed by LOTS of ABs against LHPs; hitting well v. RHPs Wasn’t he supposed to platoon?”
Bottom line: Gose 31 % SO overall. 46% vs RHP. In AAA. The 304 is a lie , 7 for 11 on balls in play
No help coming from AAA

There was an earlier comment that the Tigers don’t have a single reliever who can come in and K a hitter. Well, we had one and he got away. Feliz, now healthy, has a fastball that averages a tick below 95. He has had 22 appearances and has been scored upon only 3 times. Feliz has 21Ks in 17.1 innings with a .079 WHIP. Opposing hitters have only managed a .177 BA against him.

I know I’m probably alone in this opinion, but I’m really rooting for Mike Pelfry. Not just because it would help the Tigers, but because I think he’s a real stand-up guy who has stood up and faced this adversity with a ton of class. I also think he has the physical tools to get his ship “righted”.

Just saw what mucked up the game……this team is just mediocre at best. Instead of finding ways to win it’s was to lose

There are some very major issues to deal with.
Upton: This is a guy who has dramatically under achieved and it can be attributed to his “streakiness” only so far. The pressure he has put on himself so far in his new surroundings may be too much to overcome and a change of scenery is needed for all concerned.
Pelfrey: Avila needs to understand he is a “sixth inning” pitcher and not a “six inning” pitcher. Has to go to the bullpen and could be quite effective there.
JD: Seems to be scuffling in the two hole. I would consider flipping him with Casty for a while to see if it can ignite him. He is a guy who can carry the team when going good and really quite an impressive all-around player. IMO he is faster than people give him credit for and an effective (if unspectacular) base-runner.
Iggy: They have to get him to straighten out his stroke in the batter’s box. Weak two hoppers are killing action at the bottom of the lineup. He is very capable of squaring up and getting line drives. This should be a priority project for Joyner.
CF: Leave Maybin alone for a while and let him become the player he can be. He is one of the few guys on the team that bring a refreshing and energetic attitude to the mix.
Sanchez: Hate to say it but there are teams that would love to have a guy like him in their rotation this year. Maybe he can help to fill in hole in the leaky bullpen either directly or indirectly through a trade.
The Bench: This needs to be strengthened with a versatile OFer with power bat, preferably a LH one that can perform with reduced playing time in a platoon situation.
Rotation: Like it or not the kids from the farm are going to have to surprise.

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