Home finale lineups: Tigers vs. Twins

Alex Avila gets behind the plate in what could be his final home start as a Tiger. Same goes for Rajai Davis, who gets the start in center field as Anthony Gose gets the day off. Josh Wilson, meanwhile, makes his second start at shortstop this season.

tigerslogoTIGERS (career numbers vs. Ervin Santana)

  1. Rajai Davis, CF (4-for-20, double, walk, 7 K’s)
  2. Ian Kinsler, 2B (20-for-62, 6 doubles, triple, HR, 5 walks, 5 K’s)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, DH (5-for-21, HR, 3 walks, 5 K’s)
  4. Victor Martinez, 1B (10-for-28, 2 HR, walk, 3 K’s)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (2-for-9, HR, 3 K’s)
  6. Nick Castellanos, 3B (2-for-2, double)
  7. Tyler Collins, LF (1-for-3, double, K)
  8. Alex Avila, C (1-for-12, HR, 3 walks, 3 K’s)
  9. Josh Wilson, SS (8-for-21, double, triple, HR, K)

P: Randy Wolf

twinslogoTWINS (career numbers against Wolf)

  1. Brian Dozier, 2B
  2. Aaron Hicks, LF
  3. Joe Mauer, 1B (0-for-3)
  4. Miguel Sano, DH
  5. Torii Hunter, RF (2-for-5, HR, walk)
  6. Eduardo Nunez, 3B (0-for-3)
  7. Eduardo Escobar, SS
  8. Kurt Suzuki, C (1-for-3, double)
  9. Byron Buxton, CF

P: Ervin Santana


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Great afternoon for a game of only the tiger’s knew that they were in one! Stranding runners. .errors… bad pitching. ..typical freaking tiger’s way to treat your fans to a great last game of the year.

At least we’re keeping the Twins in playoff contention…great day for a terrible day of

This type of managership is what we can expect next season…finally takes a pitcher out after giving up six runs.How can you reward this manager for taking a first place team and managing them into last place?

I don’t believe Avila will wait long next season to make a manager change if the team is relatively healthy and stumbles at the start. the injuries this season have bought Ausmus some additional time, but he’s still in jeopardy.

I don’t view Ausmus’ continuing as manager really as a reward. he’s already under contract and they didn’t extend him. it seems the current GM thinks the former GM’s actions and player injuries are more to blame than the manager.

Understanding he was still under contract, he should have been fired…is what I should have said..It would have been kind of a cleansing action, which would have given a boost to players and fans alike. I’m sorry, he’s a terrible manager..

393./479./639 /1.118 Miguel numbers in August
218. /352/.337./689 Mike Trout numbers in August
241/ .330 /.278/.608 Miguel in September
Luckily for Trout, he does not play for the Tigers

Trouts #’s in September .309 Batting Avg. /14 RBI / 7 hr /.420 obp / .654 slg / 1.074 ops.

I know. But for a full month he was really bad. Miguel was recovering, Trout was injured

Good post even though I am a Miggy fan.

So all I ever hear Rod and Mario say is Victor can go opposite field anytime why is it he still hits into the shift more often than not. …?

Nice young players on that Minny team. Buxton, Rosario, Sano.
Holaday PHing for Miggy again? That is twice in the last week. Is he the dhph?
Boegarts would have to hit over .500 the rest of the way just to reach .333
I am glad to see Miggy win another batting title but inwardly wonder what happened to his power.
Gorzo in to pitch again. With all the crap we have had to endure this year would anybody be surprised that he too, gets a vote of confidence for next year?

Miguel has zero power…..lets put it this way Avila, Davis , Kinsler, vmart Jmart castellanos Collins , McCann, Gose all have hit with more power than Cabrera over the last month. He’ll Tyler Collins has two doubles today and that’s 1 less than Miguel over the month.
Is it injury I don’t know they say not so what is ….doesn’t care, getting old but he makes 22 million this year……162 games a year ( obviously didn’t play that many this year). That’s $135,802 per game 5ab’s per game 27,160 per ab. Batting title or not and (not considering his unfortunate injury that’s not his fault) he’s lost his power. Hopefully this year was a fluke and he’s back to Mr. Clutch and banging them off the wall if not putting them over the fence.

He will be OK. He had a shorter ST and was out six weeks. And still , put great numbers for the season. One bad month, even that demigod playing in LA had one bad month

Josh Donaldson just won the MVP.
And those Toronto fans are a force unlike fans I have seen an a long long time.
A Cub/Jays world series would be phenomenal for baseball.

IF ESPN in español and Boston local media are right, he wont a “problem” for the Tigers. Just a rumor like that Ausmus thing, but they have Miguel going to Boston

They had him going to Boston in 2009 too! How’d that turn out?

Well I would hate to see him go but would love to know what we could get for him.

Yikes! I sure am glad we didn’t get suckered into Papelbon but I would take Harper in a heartbeat:

We may need a closer but it CAN’T be Papelbon. I’ve been watching this clown since the deadline. I wasn’t even surprised.

Just back from a 40th. High School reunion where I taught American Govt. as a new teacher. Missed the last two games plus the big announcement. so much for my Trammell prediction. Re: all of the guys who will be moving on( at least one would hope) Brad was allowing them a farewll tour to the home crowd since he got a new gig. I was neither surprised or angry at Brad’s announced return. Personally, I would have preferred some one else, but at the same time I contend that a manager is worth no more than five wins more in a year. That would have done nothing for us. So, I anxiously await Fullmer’s arrival, and Pasta’s departure from the rotation. Finally, neither will I be shocked, if Avila is resigned to a one year deal as JMac’s backup.
Since I didn’t see anything, I can’t tell you anything I like about the weekend games.
Back on the prowl tomorrow.

Fulmer is projected to arrive in 2017. Pasta has given 13 wins to date as a #4 or #5 starter. That is good for 11th best in the AL. How many wins do you expect from either the 4 or 5 slot ? Avila as a backup? He would make at least $5M in that spot. How does that make sense?

And 5 more wins because of the manager doesn’t matter? Tell that to any team in contention for ANY playoff spot. What the heck were you drinking at that reunion?

As disappointed I am in Miguel. ….I think I’d stop watching all together if they traded him especially to that organization.
Talk about alienating your fan base

It would not surprise me at all. Or it does not happen until big papi is about to retire.

Glad to hear you say that GK.

LT- interesting perspectives on Kinsler, Casty and injuries and Gose.
I still hold out hope for Gose and Casty to hit enough to justify their regular positions.
Kinsler is an aggressive base-runner but not necessarlily a good base-runner. His hitting in the latter half may have saved his season and come at an awkward time for the club but at least he proved he can hit. His fielding at times can be superb. His handling of DPs is excellent. He does get a little “out of it” sometimes but it is a long season and he can be forgiven to an extent. The Tigers will need to look for another 2nd baseman soon. He might even end up in a multi-player trade this off-season.
If nothing else he gave us very dependable stability as well as a critical off-load of the “Prince”. I personally wish him well.

Are you kidding me? Unload the core of the Tigers? And then what? Put the Hens on the field? This team is fixable with its core and a few additions. It is in position to win if Avila can do even half the job DD did when the Tigers were a powerhouse for 10 years and in playoff contention since 2010..

Papelbon has always had his moments as a jerk. His pitching performance is in decline. Very simply, he is no longer worth the bother.

I was drinking diet coke, Darlene. I have never claimed to be an expert; only my humble opinions. I apologize for ruffling your feathers, because I do respect your opinions whether I agree with them or not.

Hi, Greg. I was trying to be funny. Since that was a flop, I apologize.

Sharp: “Tigers shouldn’t keep Ausmus without extended deal”
It was a face saving decision. Whoever leaked the fire decision saved him( for now). 2-7or something like that and he is gone. They will face the Yankees and the Pirates , so it is a real possibility . Extending him right now, would be wrong in many ways

That’s why i love this blog Darlene. Your an A+ in my book.

This Ausmus thing is perplexing. Even the Detroit sports writers have been affected. Henning thinks we will talking to our Grandkids about this someday? Sorry Lorne, maybe we will be talking about Mickey Lolich or Alan Trammel or Sparky Anderson or Al Kaline but I really doubt we will ever be talking about “retaining” Brad Ausmus.
And Drew (his middle name must be “Notso”) Sharpe who figures Ausmus should be extended?? in order to give him the confidence of not being a lame duck.
Honestly guys, give your head a shake.

Yeah, I figured Ausmus for a goner. Although I see him as an intelligent, baseball-savy and reasoned person, I never expected him, or any manager for that matter, to have consensus about his decisions. What I did expect from the manager of the Tigers was a sense of urgency about his job with a large dose of passion thrown in.

Your points can be found in the opinion of another (non-professional) writer:

I read the column, and agree with the author, too. The comments cemented my own thoughts only expressed much better than I am able to articulate. He probably is good with young players and that is why he needed to manage in the minor leagues.
The arrogance of thinking he was ready to manage a major league team is mind-boggling to me. His stand-offish-ness and lack of passion towards this team screams out to me, but what do I know? I’m just a fan.

There is quiet passion, i.e. working with the younger players as Mr. Avila alluded to.
I’m gaining the impression that they think Ausmus is the guy to manage a team in the position the Tigers find themselves; sort of a limbo between rebuilding and reloading. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Regarding in-game decisions, Brad makes mistakes. They all do. And they all know more baseball than the average fan can even dream of. One thing is for certain: a sizable percentage of fans will disagree with nearly every single move made by any manager. Most decisions are being made without the fans even being aware of it happening. They only see the big ones.
Finally, they hired him knowing there would be a learning curve. It’s a 3-year contract. May as well finish the job. You all may or may not have noticed, but I’m big on finishing a job.

I was against Brad returning, but after hearing that people such as Al Kaline gave input I am backing down. Rich makes some good points. And I don’t think any of the Tigers would defend Brad unless they were sincere. It’s easier to say nothing than lie.

Brad is likable and he is young and intelligent. He also had the good fortune of not exploding with the Illitch bombing of Dombrowski. Not sure how he “managed” that but he lucked out as did Jeff Jones.

Devil´s advocate here:
Papelbon called Harper out for his level of effort. He dogged it with a fly to the OF
Papelbon could be the new guy but still he is a veteran and Harper a kid. And the young guy went back to the veteran and it became physical
Wiliams ,and and old school manager not a baby sitter, took Harper out but not Papelbon.
The press is out for his head.
Lets see, he ended second with team hit hard by injuries: Desmond, Zimmerman, Fister, one of the relievers, Span.To be fair, they are top 10 in time lost but second less affected by WAR lost. Still he must be fired.
Disclaimer: I have watched just 4 or 5 Nats games so I don’t know about his in- game performance only the disappointing results
But the same press have stonewalled Ausmus.
You don’t need to be good only to be liked

I guess I’m taking a slightly different viewpoint because I’ve witnessed the disaster that is Matt Williams in DC for two years. Compared to him, Brad is Tony LaRussa. I could post links here all day but won’t do that. If you want some laughs, go to the Washington Post and read nearly anything they have on the Nats.

We were writing at the same time, LT.

I did no go deeper about Williams because I defer to your opinion about his in -game managing

“As much as I hate to say it, Albert, Papi and Miggy have earned the right not to run out every ball. Partly age, respect and risk of injury. Harper is 22, he hasn’t earned it.”

for some folks:: it’s easier to lie than say nothing at all and you don’t need to be liked only to be good. Goes both ways, folks.
I’m done talking about the Tigers until something new happens.

Darren Wolfson:
“Someone close to Gardy on him not landing w/ the Tigers: “Just when you think you got it figured out, it always surprises you.” #mntwins”

For the record, I would have been happy with Gardenhire.

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