Tuesday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Angels

Brad Ausmus said yesterday he was treating this just-finished stretch of back-to-back travel days as a chance to get guys days off. Tonight is Ian Kinsler’s turn. It’s his first game out of the lineup since July 8 and his third all season.

TIGERS (career numbers against Jered Weaver)

  1. Anthony Gose, CF (1-for-3)
  2. Jose Iglesias, SS (2-for-8, K)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, DH (8-for-26, 4 doubles, HR, 4 walks, 3 K’s)
  4. Victor Martinez, 1B (7-for-25, double, 5 walks, 4 K’s)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (2-for-3, double)
  6. Tyler Collins, LF (1-for-3, K)
  7. Nick Castellanos, 3B (0-for-2, K)
  8. James McCann, C (0-for-2, K)
  9. Andrew Romine, 2B (1-for-2)

P: Alfredo Simon

ANGELS (career numbers off Simon)

  1. Kole Calhoun, RF
  2. Mike Trout, CF (3-for-4, 2 doubles)
  3. Albert Pujols, 1B (0-for-1)
  4. David Murphy, LF (4-for-11, double, 2 walks, K)
  5. Erick Aybar, SS (3-for-6, 2 HR, walk)
  6. C.J. Cron, DH
  7. Carlos Perez, C
  8. Kaleb Cowart, 3B
  9. Grant Green, 2B

P: Jered Weaver


3 runs in 0 outs over before it begins…….way to go…..gotta love the tiger’s.
How many times have we heard what Gibby just said Angels come in struggling to score and the tiger’s make it so easy for them

Tigers not doing well. Can’t watch any news because it’s all that blowhard Trump. A Mickey Mouse cartoon would be more fun.

I agree!

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Give it right back…….geez. not surprised at all

Iglesias should make that play should be an error…..

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Not sure who is more boring, Alfredo Simon or Kirk Gibson.
But when Kirk is talking about Simon when he is pitching is is excrutiatingly boring.

Done. ….a waste of my time

Why in the world is Simon still in there?….Simon , I agree , he is a boring pitcher….
he’s like watching grass grow…..there are no easy outs with this guy. That one hitter he pitched must have put the opposing team to sleep….two more runs…Ausmus waits till the game is out of reach…typical…8-4 LA.

Why on earth is Iggy still lunging and topping soft choppers over and over?

Remember when Victor used to get hits and contribute to the team? Last year. Still don’t understand why he hits behind Miguel …..he’s a waste should be batting lower

Brad is still acting like it was last year . Victor should have been moved down long ago.

Losers still living in loserville.

This is not a drill. This is not a drill. ABANDON SHIP!

Three observations from tonight’s embarrassment:
1. I’s time to shut Victor down for the year. the knee needs complete rest for 2016.
2. You know when Simon doesn’t have it; you knew from the first batter. Since Verhagen had already been a starter, the obvious thing was to bring him in to start the fifth; if not then, he definitely should have opened the sixth. Simon DID NOT HAVE IT TONIGHT, BRAD!
3. Kinsler needed to bat somewhere tonight; doing too well if you wnated the W.
Three Likes:
1. The Verhagen stint; liked what I saw tonight.
2. Nick’s clutch hit to get us within one.
3. Wilson’s K of Trout; kept us in the game.
Kudos to Miggy, Nick, JD, and JMac. Right now Victor is giving us nothing. Collins might luck into a bomb once in a while, but as Dan said in the earlier post, don’t insult us with “earning left field” garbage. I have changed my 39 game projection 2 days ago from 24-15 to 15-24. It would have been nice to have had “Le Grande Orange” hitting fourth tonight.

Didn’t see the game because of that Santana concert I mentioned (genius move on my part). Saw a few highlights and it looked like the team as a whole continued to scrap.
It appears Simon started this one without waiting for the “Simon Says” command.

Alejandro Zúñiga ‏@ByAZuniga · 59m59 minutes ago
Miggy on Tigers’ struggles: “I think everybody feels good, but we don’t get results.
We don’t play together. And that’s the point, I think.”
When projections and results dont match , the theory behind is wrong.
Sabermetricians forget baseball is a team sport and the whole can be more than the sum of the parts
For sure there is a human factor. But they are adult, the 1972-74 where the biggest collection of egos ever assembled and by it was done a egomaniacs. 3 rings in 3 years. Feud among teammates and with managers where no obstacle to reach the WS: Sutton and Garvey, Kent and Bonds, Reginald Martinez and Martin

Heard at ESPN in español: DD convinced Huizinga to sign Miguel. His father told the Marlins scout now with Tigers that he would sign with them unless another team offered half million more. Dodgers offered 400 K and he signed with the Marlins. As soon as Huizinga made him available , DD traded for him. He signed his extension because of the money but also for the trust he has in DD. Make the math
Will he able to sell Porcello and Sandoval?

You cant expect a player to deliver every game. “Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer.” Ted Williams

Did anyone really expect the Tigers to beat the Halos? Since the bat flip they have been unable to
How comes the Tigers players are able to hide their injuries for that long?
Usually, good players are bad managers because they ask too much. Ausmus should be a first, a good player that ask to little
Rodney saved 37 games in 38. He never had a clean save but he was not worst than Jones-
Seay and Lyon were good., The draft pick they got for Lyons netted them Castellanos
Valverde was perfect for a whole season And was giving clean saves until JL allowed him to throw 50 pitches vs Boston. Valvderde- Benoit was the surest 8-9 since Hernández- López ( it lasted only one season too)

Pitchers developed by the Tigers?Besides Verlander Rodney,Zumaya( the Tigers were no responsible for his off field behavior),Miller, Furbush, Jurjens.
BTW: Scherzer was no Ace when he became a Tiger. Unlike Fister who had the peripherals and the ERA but not the RS

Their scouting have been bad, well the one involved in that scouting is the new GM

Woke up to realize that the Tigers are now in last place!!!! It finally happened.

And there sits Texas in a postseason slot at 64-60. Anybody think the Tigers couldn’t have accomplished that?

At the beginning of the season, the Pecotta projection for the Tigers was very poor. The Tigers have scored runs, but the pitching has been horrible. Soria and Price were not enough to overcome injuries and a lack of organizational pitching depth. The pitching has caused the Tigers to have one of the very worst (and negative) run differentials in the AL.DD did the right thing.

The Pecota projection from Baseball Prospectus was only 82 wins for the Tigers. The current run differential for the Tigers is a minus 53, the third worst in the AL. Only Boston pitching has allowed more runs scored (by 8) than the Tigers. By comparison, the Astros have allowed only 465 runs.

The Tigers have given up 609 runs.

I was referring to what the team may have been able to do over the final two months if they had bought rather than sold, and compared to what the other playoff contenders have done since the deadline.

I never thought our team would hit rock bottom. It makes me sick to see this happen.
The comment by Miggy posted by ElT was very interesting, “we don’t play together”.
I agree, Victor should be shut down. It is painful to see him struggle. It’s painful to watch this team, period.

I’m wondering what the quote means. Could be that they hit and don’t pitch, then pitch and don’t hit. Or perhaps just what it sounds like.

Just what it sounds like.

Mark Simon ‏@msimonespn
Hard-hit rate leaders in August:
Surprising for sure.

NB Al Avila. We can’t get by with Gose next year. He doesn’t steal enough, he doesn’t hit enough and his defense is over-rated.
How about taking a look at Charlie Blackmon of the Rockies. They need a catcher, pitching and salary relief.

Al Avila needs to put a stamp of certification on his job and soon.

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