Tuesday’s lineups: Tigers at White Sox

Jose Iglesias said he expected to be ready for Tuesday after leaving Sunday’s game with groin tightness, but he’s not in the lineup today. Andrew Romine gets the start. Other than that, it’s a regular lineup against Jeff Samardzija.

It’s a dreary day in Chicago, where the fog settled in this morning and hasn’t left. Chances are it’ll still be around this evening, judging from the forecast. Could also be light rain, but scattered, so figure they’ll get this game in.

Gameday | TV: FS Detroit, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, AM 1270, Gameday Audio

tigerslogoTIGERS (career numbers off Samardzija)

  1. Anthony Gose, CF (2-for-4)
  2. Ian Kinsler, 2B (0-for-4)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B (2-for-4, double, K)
  4. Victor Martinez, DH
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF (2-for-10, triple, K)
  6. Yoenis Cespedes, LF (1-for-4, HR, 2 K’s)
  7. Alex Avila, C (0-for-3, K)
  8. Nick Castellanos, 3B (1-for-3, 2 K’s)
  9. Andrew Romine, SS

P: Shane Greene

whitesoxlogoWHITE SOX (numbers off Greene)

  1. Adam Eaton, CF (0-for-2, walk)
  2. Melky Cabrera, LF (3-for-6, double)
  3. Jose Abreu, 1B (2-for-6, triple, HR, K)
  4. Adam LaRoche, DH (1-for-3, K)
  5. Avisail Garcia, RF (0-for-5, walk, 2 K’s)
  6. Conor Gillaspie, 3B (0-for-4, walk, K)
  7. Alexei Ramirez, SS (2-for-4, 2 walks, K)
  8. Geovany Soto, C (2-for-3, K)
  9. Micah Johnson, 2B (1-for-2, K)

P: Jeff Samardzija


In other words, typical DET at CHI weather.

Suddenly, Pérez is no longer redundant

Tigers are playing the role of slump busters.

Tigers caught a break with that Avila hit.

Ian Kinsler is starting to remind me of Nellie Fox. Where is his power? Doesn’t seem as intense as he used to be
On another note , I think the inability of our starters to get strik-outs is really going to be a factor this season

Nothing like tiger’s pitching to get a team out of a hitting slump. jeez

Shane just didn’t have it.

I thought his stuff was okay, but his control wasn’t there. Highly unusual for him.

Tough starters matchup this series. ChiSox front end versus Detroit back end

Rolling over.

Pretty disappointed in Miguel with that 3 pitch strikeout …lazy AB. Guess he’s not in the mood tonight either.

Wonder how the Tigers would be performing had Nick been traded instead of Travis. And if that were the case, would it have been Kinsler or Travis at 3B?

Jays would not have been interested in Nick. They targeted Donaldson early on as the player they wanted for 3rd base. The Jays had a gaping hole at 2nd base and no prospects coming. They did not expect him to make the team this year but he won the job in ST and hasn’t looked back.
— Bob

That’s a good point. But there are 28 other teams Nick could have been traded to.

3-way deals are done all the time. See Greene as an example.

— Bob

An injury opened the door for him, Izturis was supposed to be the regular

They’re not even thinking about trading Castella nose right now. And the league will start catching up to Travis they always do.

The Tigers are playing short-handed with this roster every night. Victor is clearly not himself and should be either put on the DL or sent on “assignment” to get himself straight. Call up Collins to DH… Aside from the occasional hit Avila is a huge liability at the plate…way more of a liability than the average catcher in the big leagues. There’s no indication that his plate liability is ever going to change. (And I really like Alex). Greene needs to be optioned to Triple A to get his mechanics and head straightened out…that guy has gone mental right now. He reminds me of Scherzer early on with Detroit when they had to send him to Triple A. There are guys in the minors that can certainly pitch better right now than he is pitching. And then there’s the bullpen with he exception of Soria…it’s as big of a mess as it has been at any time in recent history and as we all no it’s been pretty messy.

I’m a big proponent of not panicking in the early stages of a season long marathon, but these are situations that I don’t think are going to fix themselves over the course of the season. Every player slumps, but these issues run deeper imo. The Tigers MIGHT be a playoff team, but they are not a World Series team right now. We need some leadership from the front office and manager/coaching staff.

Sorry for the typos…that drives me crazy. Haha Jeff

Wilson did a nice job. He may turn out okay doing the things he is suited for. Kept the game in check for the Tigers.

Travis would be in the minors right now if he were with the Tigers IMO. I don’t think he would have been kept on the team regardless of how he played in Spring. Jeff

Collins is lost in Toledo. Avery and Fields have him far in the rear mirror

JD just needs to keep quiet. He’s hitting .050 in the last 7 games. He needs help.

Huge slump, now. Do you recall anything before like this with the Tigers becuz I don’t?

He’s really struggling. I feel bad for him, but he’s got to get it going pretty soon.

Victor s OBP is above J D Cespedes or Castellanos

A 4-hole guy. Absolutely no power and he’s a clogger. A win-now team cannot put up with this for too long. I was hoping for the best, but things now look like they are going backwards.

Some very valid points ET. It’s not just a win or a loss it is how they play the game. Right now I see a very stubborn lineup with players really unwilling to adjust to pitches, pitchers or shifts. I agree about Victor. There is the issue that he is a veteran HOF calibre player but he is not helping, he is not going to help soon, and he is either going to hurt himself further or his relationship with fickle Tiger fans.
Can’t put my finger on it but we are watching the same old feces that we have watched for a few years now. Where there just is no “life” or energy.
It is very discouraging.
The key guy to watch next is Simon. If he gets lit up again it will cause a lot of concern in Tiger Town. Rondon and Verlander seem on another orbit.
There is zero help in Toledo. Moya needs to get at bats. I am not a big believer in Collins. If anything I could see a swap of JD and Daniel Fields. Thats about it. There is certainly no help i the bullpen other than possibly Cabrera.
The only good thing about this game is the pace of play (and Andrew Romine). Wally Joyner must be tearing his hair out.

Joyner? Is that a bad joke? I thought he was bald.

They just split a 4 game away series with the hottest team in baseball. Let’s not panic. I agree, pretty disappointing game today. But, they tend to open series after traveling lackluster. Unfortunately, Green couldn’t bail them out.

Green looks like has lost his confidence, he’ll get it back. But, he is young and and will be inconsistent. But, he seems to have potential. Hopefully, JV get’s healthy provides a lift.

From what I have read the opinion is resting Victor won’t help. He has to figure out how to play through this. Though we did see him turn on some balls in KC so hopefully he isn’t a lost cause. I think they need to think about dropping JD down the lineup. Maybe he’s feeling too much pressure with Victor also struggling?

Here comes the bottom of the lineup. Maybe they can do something.

Hope they’re good and embarrassed because they should be. Unacceptable plate appearances.

I certainly don’t mean to pile on any of these guys, but it is frustrating to watch. They are a different team than they were the first week or two of the season. I appreciate what you’re saying about Victor and his on base percentage, but how much does his on base percentage matter when he is a station to station runner? I know he’s been that for a long time now…I guess there’s no easy answer for him right now. I just don’t see him getting better playing through this. He’s not driving the baseball at all.

You all are much smarter than me when it comes to who’s doing what in the minors. I agree with Dan when it comes to the team being lifeless. Again, they were full of life to begin the season.

Would you move Victor out of the cleanup spot? I know it’s tough with JD struggling, but maybe Cespedes. something to shake things up right now. Jeff

The 5th and 6th hitters are power guys. They could take him home once in a while

421 .522 .474 .995

Victor vs LHP . Sale and Quintana coming up while Cespedes vs LHP is hitting:208 .208/.583 /.792. For the next two games, Victor belongs in the clean-up spot
JD is the real problem, 2 for last 25. 16 SO. He has 2 options left if he unable to right the ship

Okay… Sit Cespedes and JD. Leave V-Mart in the 4-hole. Priceless.

No, keep them where they are the next two games

I cant comment on the game itself, we had a power outage( the irony). So , I can talk only about the numbers and what I read at gameday ( the UPS kept the WiFi alive)

It was pointed out in another blog, Miguel is below 200 in night games. Same for Victor. 0 RBI at night, both

We do need the Old Miggy to come up at the most critical time to provide the most improbable but decisive results. As amazing as he is those are the at bats the team needs him to make them whole

I frequently listen to opposition broadcasters in order to gain a full perspective of the game. It seems many of the folks out there recognize the weaknesses of the Tigers. V-Mart is an obvious liability at this point. How the heck can he be fixed? If he cannot be fixed, then it is time to move on.

And I hate the Yanks. But their broadcasters are the best. They are not only expert re the game, but treat listeners as if they have brains. They are not cheerleaders and tell it like it is.

Ausmus on slumping Martinezes: “They’re going to have to hit their way out of it.”

1. The Tiger Pen turns in it’s best performance to date.
2. Dandy Andy makes three Igloo plays.
3. Double A did get good wood on the ball each AB tonight.

When 3-6 give you nothing, you end up with nothing. Right now the little fish(Romine, Gose, Rags, and Igloo seem to be the only ones hitting with any confidence. Kinsler is all on or totally off; Miggy is being pitched more aggressively because VMart is feared by no one at this juncture. Green looks like my former 4th. graders- test day, and not a clue as to what is going on. I have never seen a 3-6 order look so out of sink for any extended time. We should have rolled these guys, just like the Twinks did; we get the runners on somehow, and they stay there. Just not a lot of fun to watch right now.

I am not a hitting guru, but even I can see JD is off balance. His top half is leading, big time.

Miggy may be one of the best hitters in the league….he is latelly the worst clutch hitter around, his hits are meaningless and come in the beginning of the game…
and then his bat falls asleep or he appears without a care…why isn’t he more selective at the plate….I thought the ptchers fear him….hits a lot of ground balls,
has been killing rallys ….hey Miguel take a walk, and give someone else a chance
to drive in some runs! The answer is who? Sit JD and play Davis until JD gets back
his groove.

Doesn’t look like DP has his super unhittable stuff

Why in heck is Ausmus not bunting with high risk K Gose?
Obvious perfect time to bunt

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