Saturday’s lineups: Tigers at Astros (updated with Jackson out)

UPDATE: Rajai Davis was originally set to sit once again, which would’ve been paritcularly interesting against a left-hander. However, Austin Jackson was scratched, earning Davis his first start since Wednesday at Texas. He’ll lead off and play in center field.

Miguel Cabrera gets his occasional start at designated hitter, with Victor Martinez starting at first base.

The Astros made a change in starting pitcher, scratching Dallas Keuchel and moving in Brett Oberholtzer, who was roughed up a bit May 6 in Detroit. Keuchel reportedly is dealing with inflammation in his wrist. But the Tigers are still facing a lefty, so the matchups shouldn’t drastically change. Bryan Holaday will start at catcher for Detroit, giving Alex Avila a day off.

Still no Dexter Fowler, who was scratched from Houston’s lineup last night with back issues.

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TIGERS (numbers off Oberholtzer)

  1. Rajai Davis, LF
  2. Ian Kinsler, 2B (2-for-7, double)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, DH (2-for-3, HR)
  4. Victor Martinez, 1B (1-for-2, walk)
  5. J.D. Martinez, LF (0-for-3, K)
  6. Torii Hunter, RF (1-for-2, double)
  7. Nick Castellanos, 3B (1-for-3, K)
  8. Bryan Holaday, C
  9. Eugenio Suarez, SS

P: Max Scherzer

ASTROS (numbers versus Scherzer)

  1. Jose Altuve, 2B (0-for-7, K)
  2. George Springer, RF (1-for-3, K)
  3. Jonathan Singleton, 1B
  4. Jason Castro, C (0-for-6, 5 K’s)
  5. Alex Presley, CF (1-for-9, double, walk, 2 K’s)
  6. Matt Dominguez, 3B (1-for-9, 4 K’s)
  7. Chris Carter, DH (0-for-6, walk, 3 K’s)
  8. Marwin Gonzalez, SS (0-for-2)
  9. L.J. Hoes, LF

P: Brett Oberholtzer


Schmehl: “Also, #Tigers’ lineup change had nothing to do with #Astros scratching Dallas Keuchel. LHP Brett Oberholtzer will get the nod today instead.”
Sure, sure, that is why the player that cant hit RHP is now in. Of course, Jackson is batting against his career splits better against LH

What numbers are you looking at, ElTigre. The Detroit Tiger website shows Davis in the past 30 days has a better OPS Austin both against RH and LH. I didn’t check the numbers from the beginning of the season, just the past 30 days. This outfield situation is getting too crowded.

season splits at baseball-reference

vs RHP:262.308.359.666
Vs LHP:310.351.521.872
Jackson unlike his career numbers:vs RHP:223.282.345.627. Vs LHP: 333.417.433.850
I think is the right decision to play Davis but its is about the numbers , not a “change of heart”.

Thank you. I went over there and checked them out.

More great fielding decisions for the a Tigers…….

Too bad Max has no ability to field his position……..he flails so much it’s impossible. And guess what if you can’t strike people out you better wake up on the mound.

Well, Davis did bobble it, but the runs would have scored regardless. Wonder what the big discussion is between Holaday, Jeff Jones and Max. Then Max and Jones went inside.

2nd run wouldn’t have scored from first on the single had Davis not thrown to 3rd. My point is, Max can’t field his position and the 1st hit maybe not the second a pitcher who can field it might of been an out instead of a single. So if he can’t strike people out especially this bunch he needs to try something else.

Meanwhile the high priced tigers batters have only made their pitcher throw 22 pitches in two innings and are flying out harmlessly.

This team is so changeable———and quickly. They look lethargic now after 7 straight.
Rajai cost us a run by throwing to the wrong base on Singleton’s hit (allowing him to get to 2nd)
Max cost himself by failing to throw a high fastball to Presley. Hi fastball is excellent today and why he doesn’t throw high fastballs to LHB slap hitters I’ll never know. Especially with his arm slot which actually creates a bit of a rise ball.
Miguel’s struggles against lefties continue. It’s hard to figure out.
We need the middle of our lineup to start mashing again.

Playing Houston feels like playing a NL game. We need to be able to compete better than last night.

I wish we had Altuve.

I’m gonna scream if Miggy has another bat at bat next inning.

I could hear you from here. Everyone trying to hit a homer rather than just trying to get on. They look like they have early dinner reservations the way they are approaching their at bats

We need some surprises from the bottom of the lineup. Now is the time. Nick, don’t go to right field–it always in a fly out.

Rajai tried three times times to pop up finally able to keep it in play for the 2nd out. Congrats

Looks as though it will be a 2nd straight start bu a supposed Tigers “ace” to only make a 6 inning start. Maybe we will see him in the 7th but I doubt it.

The Aces, in my mind, have pitched very well and certainly deserved much better from their team-mates.
The problem is the offense has decided to hibernate again.
First pitch swinging, bad at bats, they are getting themselves out-as they did yesterday.

True hitters aren’t good either but aces do and need to go more than 6 innings they just have to

Max’s last 10 outings 6, 6, 7, 6, 6.2, 6.2, 9 ,4 , 6, 6 innings that is not ace stuff. Only twice has he gone 7 or more.

You are right Dan . My example Tori Hunter just swings away at the first pitch….Oh another pop up out .

Doc continues to play well whenever asked. Tigers need to win a game they were out of for a change.
Miggy/Vmart/ Torii have to do seomething next time up. It’s getting ridiculous.

Totally agree

Davis better damn well not pop-up this time.
He’s trying GK!

Next worst thing.

Please, Ian.

Unbelievable. These guys are sure getting the breaks.
If Max comes out for the 7th look for him to be deflated.
This team needs to consider rajai as serious trade bait. He is not stealing bases like he did, not getting on, liability in the field and maybe worth something in a deal.

I know the numbers are more than good but I suggest Miggy is not right physically.

Why is it Max throws 98 to home plate and 58 to 1st base?
Scares me every time.
Pitched a great game-a great team finds a way now to get him a “W”

Rajai for Qualls? For Sipp?

Yikes, Victor swang at ball 4 before lining out

Torii Two-Hop (and 1 pitch) Hunter strikes again.

The goat of this game to me is Rajai. Throwing to wrong base and coming up empty with a man on 3rd and less than two.

He’s a goat for sure but I’m looking at Miguel Cabrera, Victor Martinez.

Sipp is the best option. But they wont take Rajai. He earns more money than their full rotation

I always forget about that part (salary). Sipp would be real nice but a guy like Qualls who doesn’t walk people is pretty nice too.
Casty pulls the ball and gets a hit (duh!).

Alex Avila strikes out again. ..I swear hes afraid to succeed

The only players who have done anything are the bottom of the order.

Well, if Rajai gets the last out, they better trade him.

May as well run Jackson. Davis will do nothing against Williams so let Suarez try

Too late-damn. Can Rajai change from a goat to a hero?


Thank you, Ian.

My new hero Ian Kinsler . Great Job !!!

Kinsler. He showed up

Holy Cow! Mr Clutch. Jack City

Wow. Now if we can see what we hope is the real Joe Nathan show up.

There ‘ya go.

Miguel hates to be the DH

He makes it pretty obvious.

He’s gotta try and figure it out because his performance today is not acceptable. And I love him but he’s destined to be a dh at some point.

Victor explained than he had problems adapting because it is easy to lose focus when you are DH.

2 down, 1 to go.

Joe Nathan can not be trusted regardless of whether he pulls this off.

Better light a candle.

Aaaand we win the game. Biggest stat of all, wins by team.

It is good to have a closer who puts fear into the hearts of people. Unfortunately, with Nathan, it is his own team and fans who feel the terror…

I think you might be right. Joe Blow’s time may have run out. Torii’s as well. It is the danger with signing older veterans with excellent track records. It can become a delusion.
Nevertheless, this was a great team rebound and victory.
Holaday keeps proving he is a more well rounded all around player than Avila. He should play more. And that might mean as a substitute and not just when starting a game.
I am pretty down on Rajai but I must say it was at least good to see the effort he made in the 9th, even if it was unsuccessful.

I see that too,, but not sure if it’s mental (like famly concerns, political turmoil in his homeland) or physical (still not 100% recovered from his core surgery).

There is something wrong with Miggy.

Unfortunately, by the time a closer is established plus available, he may have already seen his best days. Always best to develop your own. Along those lines, Joba might be the guy. I heard a rumor (rumors, me?) that the Padres may deal Benoit. Get him back.

1. 15 K’s vs. 1 W for Tiger Pitching. Yowza!
2. Max making the adjustments after one inning. What did Houston have after one inning? Nothing, but they saw heat from Old Blue/Brown Eyes.
3. Kinsler comes through in his favorite park. Tigers need to play all games in Texas.

Great win. Nice to come back as late as we did. Rookie 1 is rounding into a .275/ 15 HR Rookie Season. I’ll take that any day. Rags at leadoff is annoying, but kudos for the bunt. Kudos also to Max as stated, A-WHO-EEN-E-O, and our every day Holaday, the good Doc.
Right now, both Miggy and Victor are in a little funk; Per several blogs ago, Mig pouts a little when he DH’s. We have to be better than that. Definitely look for Tori to have less playing time, if Dirks returns to form. Looking forward to watching Drew tomorrow.

Love watching Altuve play. Plays confidently, over the top energy, and looks like he’s always having fun. Must be a really good teammate and clubhouse presence. Can’t imagine Houston would ever consider trading him, but he’d look good in the Old English D.

That said, I’m more than happy with Kinsler. Every team needs a Kinsler. That was a phenomenal trade that really changed the dynamic of this team more than all the other off season moves put together. I honestly didn’t think they’d find another team interested in Prince with his huge contract. What were they thinking when they did that deal? Rhetorical question: They were desperate and they weren’t thinking.

The Kinsler trade , probably,was decided before the 2013 July dead-line. They gave Andrus a big contract and they had Profar and Odor ready to play 2B.I was told in July 2013 that Odor would play with Texas this year by a source close to his family. I did not know the source was reliable until he was called up this year. I was sure that was wishful thinking with Andrus-Profar around 2b( Even if they were looking for a house in Texas). Still, I wrote here back then that Andrus could be available because I was speculating that him with his contract( opt out clause after 4) could be the one moved with Kinsler going to the OF. Again, speculating,with the trade they were avoiding another Hamilton-Young like problem. His comment after the trade proved them right.
Add that they wanted Fielder in 2011 and that the Arlington Park is taylor-made for Fielder

Prince might done-done, right? I thought he needed disks fused in his neck or something.
yesterday’s game was why your closer closes your games. I see winning today in a laugh-er. I love seeing Feldman on the mound!

It was the right call, use the best pitcher against the middle of the lineup. Old schoolers and sabermetricians think alike in that matter.
Houston fans are OK with that. They were in despair as soon as they saw Williams warming. He is bad but he was against Castellanos, Holaday and Suarez, three rookies.
Its not Porter´s fault anyway. They were one man in the bullpen short. if they dont want to DL Keuchel then dump a position player.

Lineup at HOU: Jackson 8, Hunter 9, Cabrera 3, V. Martinez DH, J. Martinez 7, Castellanos 5, Avila 2, Suarez 6, Romine 4. Smyly starting.

Look who is leading-off

Foxsport: Where did Tigers slugger J.D. Martinez come from?
I cant link to it:
“Martinez missed 44 games late last season with an injured wrist. And while watching video one day in Toronto with Houston Astros teammate Jason Castro, he made an abrupt decision while watching Castro’s pretty swing.
Martinez said: “I thought, ‘Dang! His swing is so much different than mine.’ I watched his swing a lot on video and then started watching the swings of great hitters. The one I watched the most was Miguel Cabrera because his has a commonality to all great swings.”
He worked on the swing in Venezuela with Leones del Caracas( Vizquel ´s team, he left the team before the Martinez arrival) Clark recommended him.
“And now he’s playing with Cabrera, and slapping hands with him after homers.
“It’s crazy how things turned out,” Martinez said. “People told me, ‘You are with your idol now.’ “

We really need to see some degree of consistent excellence from one of AJ, RD or TH. Preferably the former.
AJ has been an immense disappointment. His defense has been only ordinary. The clutch hitting has been non-existent, power and RBI production below average, even for him. He is not providing the type of energy he is capable of–the kind that motivates the team behind him. He now kills rallies rather than inciting them. Rather than a force he has become a footnote.
We are still under halfway through this season and we all know that AJ has a history of getting on some very hot streaks and he also has enough charisma to actually lift and inspire his team-mates. If he can’t rediscover the magic they seriously need to find some other force in centre field that can.
I, for one, am tired of the perennial leg-kick tweaks, passive outfield play, wasted stolen base potential and called 3rd strikes.

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