Saturday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Rangers

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Standard lineup today against Nick Martinez (not Joe Saunders, sorry about that). The Rangers, meanwhile, shuffle their batting order a bit, returning Shin-Soo Choo to the leadoff spot for the first time since Prince Fielder left the lineup. Mitch Moreland moves up in the order against Rick Porcello, who’s going against his career trend this year with a .237 average against lefty hitters. Leonys Martin moves down.

Reminder: Today’s game is on Fox Sports 1, not Fox Sports Detroit. It can be in a few different places depending on your cable/satellite provider and which town you live in. You can find the channel number on the Fox site here.

Gameday | TV: Fox Sports 1, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, AM 1270, Gameday Audio

TIGERS

  1. Ian Kinsler, 2B
  2. Torii Hunter, RF
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
  4. Victor Martinez, DH
  5. Austin Jackson, CF
  6. Alex Avila, C
  7. Nick Castellanos, 3B
  8. Andrew Romine, SS
  9. Rajai Davis, LF

P: Rick Porcello

RANGERS (career numbers against Porcello)

  1. Shin-Soo Choo, LF (9-for-28, 4 doubles, 3 walks, 7 K’s)
  2. Elvis Andrus, SS (2-for-17, 2 walks, 4 K’s)
  3. Mitch Moreland, 1B (3-for-8, double, K)
  4. Adrian Beltre, 3B (6-for-20, 2 doubles, walk, 3 K’s)
  5. Alex Rios, RF (8-for-38, double, 3 HR, 7 K’s)
  6. Chris Jimenez, C (1-for-8, K)
  7. Leonys Martin, CF (1-for-4, triple, walk)
  8. Donnie Murphy, DH
  9. Rougned Odor, 2B

P: Nick Martinez

48 Comments

We had 5 Tigers games this week. They went 3-2
But Fox never shows the AL here game unless the Yankees or Boston are playing.

How can they go 3-2 when they lost 4 games?

Friday ( Bos) , Sunday ( Bos), Monday ( Cle) ESPN, Wednesday( Cle) Merdiano, Friday ( Tex) Meridiano. During the week was more appropriate. Or 5 of last 8 games.
And no game today, every sport channel with the Champions.

Lost in translation, I used the same expression we use in Spanish

Same frustration here in Guatemala El Tigre que tienes en Venezuela. The only games that ever make it to our TV are Yankee’s, BoSox and Dodgers (and whoever they happen to be playing). Thus, thank goodness for MLB TV and the fact that we never have TV blackouts to deal with!!

That 3B Ump needs glasses badly! Nick immediately motioned to the dugout as he knew he had Choo nailed! Thanks for replay MLB! Ricky got out of the 1st inning with 13 pitches. Come on Tigs!

El Tigre, it must drive you and other native Spanish speakers crazy to hear these announcers slaughter Spanish names like Castellanos y Anibal!! How hard can it be to take a little time to practice with a Spanish speaker so that they can at least approximate the correct translation. It’s ridiculous how badly they mess up the names!!

ESPN in español has a spanish speaking crew. Only during free games at MLB.com I notice that. The Fox crew is also spanish speaking but with less quality.
Most people here hate the local TV crew and prefer the ESPN in español one.
Old time announcers like Scully and Garagiolla used to talk to latin journalist to be ready

Stadium announcers used to do the same according to venezuelan journalists

Well I just got home in time to see it all far apart….excellent

Hunter cost the team 4 runs that inning with his clowning around and missing the cutoff man. And Avila can never catch a throw at the plate.

If Torii continues with the “fake” catches he will become (and he is close) a “fake” outfielder. I am so tired of watching him do this when simply going after the ball could result in an accidental catch.
BTW, does Avila ever hang on to a throw from the outfield or relay man?

Mayo–wow, great minds think alike?

I don’t like the idea that this is the game we will likely see Knebel debut.
Should have been last night.
Ricky has to regroup here. Hold these guys down and hope his lumpduck offense can find out how to get there bats on the ball.

Oh Ricky–awful pitches to Beltre when you were ahead of him.

Down 5-1. Texas has 10 hits. RP copying JV and Max with a bad start. I have noticed Avila is throwing out more would-be base-stealers than last year. They need to figure out this new kid Cy Martinez.

He’s getting a very generous strike zone

So are we still blaming the road trip huh?

I’m blaming the worst “gold glove” outfielder in the history of the game!

These pitchers just can’t seem to get it together with the exception of Sanchez last night. Its like they have lost all focus and ability to get anyone out.
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Hunter just grounded out on ball 4. Excellent.

Horrible at bat at a critcal tiime for Torii. Swang when he didn’t need to and reached out to politely tap a ground ball with Miggy waiting in the wings.
Not smart at all.

Can’t hit can’t pitch….can’t win. Let me know when thry start feeling like pitching and hitting otherwise it’s a huge waste of my time.

They just don’t look sharp at all today. Base-running, outfield,. Just don’t look “in it”.

Odor was part of the chain that took Kinsler to Detroit. His cousin goes to my daughters school and his family told us , last year, he would be in MLB in 2014.

What a mess! Now 1-6 this week. Let’s hope this is the end of their down streak. Tomorrow they are back to Smyly who started this slide. Thank goodness no other team in the division has been able to put together any kind of a win streak.

JV pitches tomorrow

Yippie he’s has given up 5 runs in each of his last two starts!

OMG, they look bad today. Humiliating, really.

They need to regroup and asap . They looked more like a college level team . Very sad today and a home game . What a mess today was .

Our base running has been somewhat criticized this year as being over aggressive. I’m not sure that is correct at all. In fact I don’t think you can become over aggressive. The problem is “head-up” base-running. There have been way too many times where you see one of our runners out to dry because they misread the play or the situation.
I said a couple of months ago that if our rotation struggles this will be a team that will find it hard to win. Many people just figured we had a lock on things because of the rotation itself. Baseball is not that easy. Especially for pitchers.

Brad, dont turn your bullpen into a circus.
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Once is fun; twice in two days is another thing.
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— Bob

mlive:
“In fact, the Tigers have already put together a pitching schedule of sorts to prepare Worth for the possibility of making another relief appearance.

“Don’t get me wrong, he’s an infielder,” Ausmus said Friday. “But if he can save our bullpen in a game like that, great.”

So , I was lucky to have the same soccer game in 8 channels. My team there won….

Boy if your team is having trouble hitting it would be nice to face the Tiger’s pitchers no better way to get your team going. Cleveland and Texas were both struggling at the plate…hard to believe. I never like them to lose but seriously it’s mostly how they are losing.

I thought the big moment of today’s game was Hunter’s AB in the 5th. 3-0 count, the kid throws one strike and Torii goes into swing mode. I had expected him to work the AB like he did last week in Baltimore. That one ended well.
Speaking of Torii, I can’t judge from TV whether he can get to those hits off the wall, but the deke worked today…….if he had hit the cutoff man.
Ricky P, as usual when it goes bad for him, had some choppers beat into the ground bleed through for hits, extending innings and culminating in a legitimate big hit.
Overall, it’s been a week of bad baseball by the Tigers. There are ups and downs, but they need to keep this type of play to a minimum.
Turn down for what……..how about for some better ball?

I’ve done an about face on the replay system. It seems to work pretty well now. What surprises me is how many of these calls are missed by the umpires for whatever reason. Three of them just today. Ron Washington is 5 for 10 in reversals. That’s 50% on close plays. You have to wonder how many there have been over the years. I don’t blame the umps because you can usually see why they couldn’t see the play, but it’s still kind of stunning.

Does ANYBODY know what happened on that early rundown with Miggy running towards the runner? Why didn’t he throw to 2ndbase? Fox was too busy interviewing Colby Lewis at the time.
Fox, by the way, has the worst baseball presentation in MLB. Wouldn’t they love to know that?

Didn’t see it I was at work until about five got home in time just to see the 4 inning debacle.

Joe Buck could never hold a candle compared to his father. Agree, Rich, Fox baseball is the bomb, as in laying one. Our team has been pretty good these past seven games of laying bombs also. I am still amazed as to how many new right handers can shut down the offense. Plate discipline goes out the window. Today’s game was another horror story that got worse with each passing chapter. Hard pressed to find three things to like, but here goes:
1. The Avila peg to Romine to throw out Elvis.
2. Romine contributing on the offensive side for two straight days. Again, if he can hit .220, we can make it through with his defense.
3. Nick not hesitating in calling for the replay on Choo’s attempt at third.

Kudos to Ian, Victor, Austin, and Andrew. We had 13 hits, but it seemed like six.
No problem with using Worth again; it holds the BP in line another day. Agree that the game turned on the Hunter AB. It was a horrible AB, especially ahead 3-0 in the same inning Marinez had gone 3-0 on Nick; and we know Nick has no desire to walk.
Two critical outs from batter who had the pitcher down 3-0. C’mon Tori, we got to do better than that. I dread the JV outing tomorrow; no confidence in him right now either. Where were you Paul Foytack, when we needed you?

Greg

Re . replay. How many times the manager walk to talk to the Ump and then got back to the dugout after receiving the signal not to appeal? BTW, it takes less time than a Weave-Martin- Pinella-Cox tirade
They ask the replay “knowing” they are right and still only half of the plays are reversed.
How many calls in a game? You can have 4 or 5 calls in one single AB with the ball in play

I was talking close calls, not the total including the easy ones. It appears most of the reviews involve tags and plays at 1stbase and there are more reversals than I would have anticipated. The game, as always, is driven by the homeplate umpire and “his” strike zone. I haven’t looked it up, but I’ll bet most ejections stem from that.
A good example of what I like about replay is the one at 3rdbase yesterday. Castellanos knew immediately that the runner was out and, instead of screaming about it, he signaled (or called traveling since that’s what it looked like he was doing with his arms) for the replay. The players know.

The game turned on the Hunter’s play in the outfield, he plays it right and the inning is over and the score is still 1-0. He’s an embarrassment out there.

The eplay itself is great in the fact that the correct call is made. What I don’t like is the charade of the manager walking out to stall the game so his tech crew can let him know whether to challenge. Argue what with the ump? If they are going consider a challenge then let the ump give them 15 seconds to decide that. IMO if the ump leaves the dugout then it should automatically be considered a challenge.

MLB’s stated intention was to get the call right. That’s why the manager is allowed a quick video replay from his own people. I envision carnage with that 15 second rule.

Hunter was definitely in the middle of things bad yesterday. There are lots of things to like about Torii. Playing RF is no longer one of them.

I get that Rich. It’s the walk out to the scene of the play for a pseudo “discussion” with the offending ump. What’s the point? Be better for the manager to motion to the home plate ump for a possible challenge request. The ump waits for a few seconcds , bei it 15 or 10 or whatever, and then the manager has to declare.
If they leave the dugout it should be considered a challenge.
Right now it just looks contrived.

They considered challenge flags like in football, and other methods and I guess they just settled on this. The thing is, the manager has to say exactly what it is he’s challenging even if it appears obvious. Not sure how to do that other than with hand held devices or something similar. That actually could be done and it would save the walking time, which is sometimes longer than the review itself.

That is my point, the sample is skewed against the umps.
About the calls at 1B due to the method they use, it is unexpected that many reversed plays.

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