Thursday’s lineups: Tigers vs. Astros

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It’s a lefty on the mound for the Astros, but it’s a day off for Torii Hunter, who went 0-for-6 against Dallas Keuchel last year. J.D. Martinez starts in right field and bats fifth with Hunter off, while Davis moves up to the leadoff spot and moves Ian Kinsler down. Bryan Holaday gets the catching duties, while Victor Martinez starts at first base.

The only Astro with more than one plate appearance against Drew Smyly is Alex Presley, who’s 1-for-2 with a strikeout against him.

Today’s game is an MLB Network broadcast if you’re not in Detroit or Houston. It’s also the Free Game of the Day on MLB.TV. So either way, you have to chance to catch it this afternoon. Or you can take the afternoon off, celebrate the break in the weather and catch the game in person.

Gameday | TV: MLB Network, FS Detroit, MLB.TV | Radio: 97.1 FM, AM 1270, Gameday Audio

TIGERS (career numbers vs. Keuchel)

  1. Rajai Davis, LF (0-for-3)
  2. Ian Kinsler, 2B (5-for-15, HR, 2 walks, K)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, DH (1-for-4, 2 walks)
  4. Victor Martinez, 1B (0-for-3, K)
  5. J.D. Martinez, RF
  6. Austin Jackson, CF (2-for-3, double, K)
  7. Nick Castellanos, 3B
  8. Bryan Holaday, C
  9. Danny Worth, SS

P: Drew Smyly


  1. Jose Altuve, 2B
  2. Jonathan Villar, SS
  3. Dexter Fowler, CF
  4. Jesus Guzman, 1B
  5. Chris Carter, DH
  6. George Springer, RF
  7. Matt Dominguez, 3B
  8. Carlos Corporan, C
  9. L.J. Hoes, LF

P: Dallas Keuchel


Boy this umpire isn’t any better than last nights calling balls and strikes. Tigers hitters even though we got one run are pounding the ball into the ground early in counts. Important to get into their pen.

Still pounding ball into the ground here in the 5th! Meanwhile Smyly being squeezed lead to 2 runs for Astros. Argh!

2 out walks—–ouch.

Bottom of the 8th not feeling it….tigers look aweful in fact other than Tuesday nights game we haven’t really hit these pitchers as they should of. Lucky they won three. Mailing it in today.

Bringing in ther righty to face Miguel—I think, and hope, it is a bad idea for the Stro’s.
He handled Miggy quite nicely.

Oh, heck They didn’t put up much of a fight.

Truthfully other than today when he was pretty good (and helped by ump) the Tigers hitter in these games faced some pretty bad pitchers and only had 6 more base runners through the series. Yes they won three which is all that really matters but other than one lopsided game on Tuesday and Victor pretty lackluster offense. Pitching won those games. In fact outhit yesterday too.

I’d like to see the splits when Miggy DH’s vs. the field. His heart doesn’t seem to be there when he’s not playing the field. Houston has the beginning foundation of a good starting rotation. They need to coax a solid free agent veteran in there to guide the upswing. As I predicted yesterday, a sweep, especially in a 4 game series is mighty tough. It was tough to find three things to like, but here’s what was good:
1. Worth’s shortstop play was as good as it gets. We can survive with him and Romine with solid defense, and an occasional offensive contribution.
2. V-mart continues to amaze. After this year, I would try to get a 2 year deal for him. He’s comfortable in the DH, like Edgar Martinez used to be. give him an occasional first base bone, and he will continue to hit. A true professional.
3. Nick’s ability to drive the ball to right field. Joyner needs to really push him to become an opposite field best.

Davis seems better in the nine hole. Kinsler gives a little more in the leadoff IMO.
As eluded earlier, hope springs eternal for Miggy. When will he truly go on a tear?
Smyly elevated the ball in the last two innings; he’ll be fine. Reed and Miller didn’t help with the extra gophers. I agree with Kathy that no passion was evident today. Back to the Central where the Twinks continue to surprise.


As DH, career, 159 AB 245/.321/.399/.719
As 1B 326/.406/.580/.985
As 3b, he likes to play it,330/.411/.584.995
As LF, he hated it, he went the full Hanley Ramírez because of that position:296 .358 .518 .876
AS RF 308/.380/.546/.926
Move him too soon to DH and they will have a disgruntled 30 MM players. He must be a fix at 1B for years to come. They can forget about DH him

I’ve read many comments recommending Miggy be the DH next year or in a couple years. Like Greg, I don’t get the feeling Miguel has any desire to be a DH for many more years. Just my opinion and what the body language looks like..

I agree about Miggy and DH. Takes the wind out of his sails. That guy just loves to be on the ballfield all the time.
Overall, the offense was due to regress after that explosion last week and weekend. I didn’t expect to win all four games although it does happen from time to time.
That’s baseball.

Greg, I’ll offer the counterpoint to Rajai leading off. I think he’s either hitting or not regardless of where in the lineup he is. What I like with him at #1 is the lineup gains added depth by having Torii 5th and Austin 6th, followed by Nick.
Rajai has always been streaky but I think at leadoff he has a chance to affect a game at least once during the contest.
Just a little of the ol’ lineup discussion, something that was greatly in vogue during Leyland’s tenure.

Miggy likes to talk to and chat it up with the other players. Not sure how he would like to be stuck in the dugout for 9 innings .

It’s not Victor’s favorite position, either, but he excels at it. So much like Magglio…a real professional hitter. He will be in hot demand next year. .
Just because I can’t quantify something, doesn’t make it untrue. I’ve watched Miguel since ’08 and right away this year I noticed he wasn’t breathing while in the batters box, stepping out and taking a deep breath. It seems to help him focus and/or relax. Maybe I miss it because the camera isn’t on him every second, but it was always noticeable when he was hitting all those HR’s, doubles, batting crowns and MVP. He very seldom steps out of the box this year. Maybe he does it in the on-deck circle and I’m missing it. He just has a different look this year.

But is anyone charting the success/fail ratio? If it proves to be successful, it would be a radical “shift” from how the game has been played for more than a century. They may even begin naming the defenses, like the nickel or dime in football. This is a huge deal. Hitters would have to change their approach, etc.

Five or six years ago, did you ever think we would hear about challenges, shifts, overshifts so many times during a game? Seems like for years the position players would basically stand at their posts. Oh, they’d move a few feet away but nothing like today’s game. Seems to be a lot more strategy being implemented and having to make adjustmennts right here, right now.

Knobler.” As of this week, shifts had actually cost the Yankees 3 more runs than they saved. But they’re committed to them. ”
The shift is nothing but the Lou Boudreau formation against Ted Williams. JL like everyone, else used it against Thome. Also for Mauer.
The new aspect is the use against everyone. Maddon is credited as the origin of the new fad. But It looks like they are into the Big Data trend

Not really stood there. The real good defender position themselves based on the next pitch. ” the main step is the one taken before the ball is hit”.


I was thinking the same thing about Miggy and DHing. Even thought you might be better off playing him at 3rd and DHing Castellanos instead (the odd time).
Let’s get Victor a few more reps behind the plate. Definitely minimize those times (and it wasn’t a bad idea really) that Miggy is DHd, he simply doesn’t go well with it.
In my mind he should be playing at least another 120 games this year at 1st base.
I really doubt Reed and the Beverage Brothers will be on this squad at year’s end.

Reed could be the one gone once JH is added

Yeah, we did not hit today but pitching and defense (and running) win games. The way Davis has played, I would bat him 1st. Kinsler 2nd. We have guys that can run and make things happen to start the game. Speaking of 1984, was that the team that scored so many runs in the 1st inning? Another year we came back to win so many games in the late innings. It is great to be a Tigers fan!

I’d like to see Miller gone before Reed.

As soon as Putkonen is back, Miller will be gone

The art of hiiting

Very interesting article. Have tickets for tonight’s game hope the rain stays away although I’m not counting on it!

wow that miguel article just blew my mind

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