Sunday: Tigers vs. Yankees

As mentioned yesterday, Ramon Santiago, Brayan Pena and Matt Tuiasosopo are all in the lineup. Tuiasosopo is batting sixth in Andy Dirks’ place. It’s a windy day at Comerica Park with the wind blowing hard out to left, so this could be interesting.

As mentioned in last night’s game story, the Tigers scored eight runs in back-to-back games against the Yankees for the first time since 2004, according to research on If they do it again today, they’ll have done it in three straight games for the first time since the 1930s.


  1. Austin Jackson, CF (6-for-26, HR, 2 RBIs, 13 K’s vs. Sabathia)
  2. Torii Hunter, RF (21-for-79, 8 doubles, 3 HR, 17 RBIs, 9, walks, 19 K’s vs. Sabathia)
  3. Miguel Cabrera, 3B (11-for-31, 3 HR, 14 RBIs, 8 walks vs. Sabathia)
  4. Prince Fielder, 1B (6-for-14, HR, 3 RBIs vs. Sabathia)
  5. Victor Martinez, DH (7-for-30, 2 HR, 4 RBIs vs. Sabathia)
  6. Matt Tuiasosopo, LF (0-for-3, walk, 2 K’s vs. Sabathia)
  7. Brayan Pena, C (0-for-3 vs. Sabathia)
  8. Omar Infante, 2B (8-for-32, HR, 10 K’s vs. Sabathia)
  9. Ramon Santiago, SS (10-for-36, HR vs. Sabathia)

P: Justin Verlander


  1. Brett Gardner, CF (5-for-15, 3 walks, 3 K’s vs. Verlander)
  2. Robinson Cano, 2B (7-for-41, 2 walks, 8 K’s vs. Verlander)
  3. Kevin Youkilis, 3B (7-for-31, 2 HR, 3 RBIs, 8 K’s vs. Verlander)
  4. Travis Hafner, DH (13-for-47, 3 HR, 11 RBIs, 9 walks, 13 K’s vs. Verlander)
  5. Vernon Wells, LF (8-for-23 vs. Verlander)
  6. Ichiro Suzuki, RF (19-for-58, double, triple, HR vs. Verlander)
  7. Francisco Cervelli, C
  8. Lyle Overbay, 1B (3-for-12 vs. Verlander)
  9. Jayson Nix, SS (1-for-11, 2 walks, 5 K’s vs. Verlander)

P: CC Sabathia


wonder how JV is going to work with his new batterymate…

Kinda hard to conceive of Pena telling JV how to approach hitters. I just hope they are able to get on the same page.

Pena’s glove hand will be sore! Hope Ramon will swing at some pitches today. 41 degrees with a gusty wind here in Grand Rapids. How many pitches will JV throw? Rich, I paced around the house at the end of the Michigan game. It was like Valverde pitching in the 9th inning. Go Tigers! –Dave

They worked only once in ST 3 innings 0 hits 3 SO. Peña is known for his game calling

Major lack of respect and protecton in yesterday’s Angels-Rangers game. Pujols homered twice and was given 3 intentional walks so the next hitter, Hamilton, could instead be faced.

Hamilton responded by going hitless.

For the bullpen to have a chance at having success we need to see the starters go deeper this time through the order. Also, today Coke and Dotel should be pitching.

Next time Youkilis is up he will have to deal with 100 MPH high and tight. Brawl in the making?

2E misplayed that ball off of the bat of Cervelli for the first run of the game……don’t ya think? Well I guess thats what JV gets for walking another batter. And the Tigers pitching staff is tied for the most base on balls in the majors. To me it s the most frustrating thing so far this season.
And JV just gives up a homer. Hasn’t looked good so far this season.

He allowed the bad play to take him out of the game

Well, yes—and no. Maybe Casper Wells catches that ball but the fact is it was drilled. As was Nix’s. Cervelli & Nix?? C’mon.
I just finished saying to my ever so patient wife, that Verlander does not look like he’s got his good stuff. Then wham—Nix jacks it.
JV has had many games where he screws up early then goes lights out the rest of the way. Fingers crossed here.

Or Kelly or Dirks or a lot of players in my opinion.

Maybe Omar can hit a triple.

I don’t know look at it again….2E got a bad jump…didn’t look like he moved right away…and then took a bad route. But I agree JV didn’t look good most of the spring and although he didn’t give up any runs to Minnie he certianly didn’t look good his first outing.

And another walk.

Obviously JV is a huge talent. But he has a huge ego to complement it.
He is very fastball happy today. Not sure why–it’s not particularly good. Very little movement on it. Throwing it in off-speed counts too. Luchy Ichiro didn’t park that 0-2 pitch. Same with Wells who pooped it up.
Maybe his slider and curve aren’t working?

With only the fastball, he wont last long. His chanceup was at 90 and his curve out of the zone

Hopefully the fellas didn’t get all their hits the previous 2 days…..

His slider is working. The curve worked in the first. The fastball is nearing full throttle 2E sparked the bad inning

infante could do some damage here…..hopefully he gets a FB from CC.
2E looks capable at the plate. A shame he got a bad jump on that ball in LF.

CC gave him some – he couldn’t do anything with it. 2 LOB.

torii tracked that ball down in the top of the 5th (the second out) – i think BB would not got gotten to that.

Call up Worth. He cant do worse
Or Russo

0-8 so far this year: worth

I saw that but after the three SO of yesterday…

Austin MVP Jackson

There is , the first QS for the Tigers heading into a L.

I must be watching a different game. I don’t see JV has the magic fastball whatsoever. He’s often around 90 on it. That’s almost Fister like.
But seriously, he is not in the mid 90’s and wont hit the uppers today.
He has deserved more support on the sticks though. Deja Vu.
CC has been very effective.

He has been making outs with change-ups and sliders . He reached 95 in the 4th to recover and then back to off speed and curves

He is better with 4 days of rest.

108 pitches. QS. L

Phil Coke: please stip with the knee-jerk finger -point to the sky an anything that isn’t hit on the ground.. I repeat—I am not a Coke fan.

They have to get an out here. Well, that just made it more difficult.

Light a candle!

We could still win.

not likely now.

Well I was hoping to atleast not get shut out…..but that looks likely now. Wings shut out and probably the Tigers. Not a great day for sports in the D.

Bad game today–the only reason I’m watching now is so I can show my wife the greatest closer in the business.

They dont need a closer. They need a full bullpen.But for Smyly and Downs…

There are problems to be sure. Pretty good arms but not very good pitchers.
Dotel and Coke are probably over the hill.
A2 is wild and inconsistent. As is BV. Downs is inexperienced. Meanwhile Aardsma still out there!

He was released by the Yankees.He is a FA as long as I know

And they need to find the swing vs LHP

Frankly, this kinda game happens. That’s just baseball. The game that sticks in my craw was the Minnesota loss by the pen. The tigers should be 4-2.

We are weak against LHP. Not sure why but we have a couple of RHB who don’t hit LHP particularly well.
Go home Alex–enjoy that little one as much as you can.

Toledo ahead in the 8th 3-2 and they throw Rondon in the 8th! Todd to close.

I don’t get it. I just don’t get it.

Rondon to setup for Benoit or Valverde?

Coke is 30 and in his 5th full season. He’s not over the hill, but he does need to fire that mid-90s fastball he had in the postseason. It sets up that loopy curve. He also needs to stay down in the zone. By the way, a lot of pitchers point at balls hit in the air. It’s how they’re taught in some quarters.
The entire bullpen is inconsistent and that will need to be addressed. Nothing new, as we always spend April continuing tryouts, for lack of a better word.
3-3 to start. Not too…………never mind, you all know the phrase.

I can understand the skyward point grating as flyouts seem the only out Coke can get these days. Heaven help him when it starts to warmup and more leave the park.
Really have gone back to square one with Rondon, not as if Todd is a new boy wonder on the scene.
Man, an awful lot is presently riding on Benoit’s shoulders.

You and I disagree totally on “young” Phil, Rich. I don’t care how many months he has lived on this planet, I think he’s washed up.
As to Rondon, I think it was imprudent to not thrust him into a save situation. Toledo/Lousvilles is not exactly Candlestick in late October.
BTW, Rondon threw 16 pitches today—–15 were strikes.

Fair enough. I just think of “over the hill” as meaning old. Like me. Coke’s effectiveness could be at an end, but he may have a good streak in him.
On the pen as a whole, these guys need to come in to innings and strand baserunners, not clear the bases and walk off with a pristine ERA.

well at least 2E hit today

Coke…Should be in his prime agewise . He has stuff enuff as a releiver to be tried as a starter, which he was. Postseason Phil showed his stuff last year. He is a conundrum as far as I am concerned. His age is not the issue. Do know he cannot throw his junk above the knees.

when dotel was signed i remember talk of him being long in the tooth. he was a lot older than coke. but pitchers — their bodies operate on different time scales. Didn’t the bird lose it after 23? or was that injuries? i guess injuries would count when talking about a pitcher aging…

Injuries. There was a skiiing injury to his knee which may have led to arm problems from coming back too soon. Or, he could have been overworked during his one season.

My understanding is the prime age of players is 28-32. The steroid era presumably aged the prime years significantly. Therefore, we saw older players like Sosa, Bonds, McGwire et al hitting tons of HRs post age 32. Not much of thatis happening now.

And then we saw pitchers like Clemens and Colon contiue to power on into later age. PED issues there for sure.

Flame-throwers but for Ryan and Johnson age bad.
Pitchers , specially knuckleballers age well,: Tommy John,Dickey, Niekro, Moyer, Wilhelm.
Fydrich, Valenzuela, Koufax began too early with a heavy workload

Not a very pretty sight today. Just when you think everyone’s going to hit, Sabathia puts a goose egg on us. Team was very flat today. Hard to find three things, but here we go:
1. JV actually did not pitch that badly; Yanks score in on inning off of him, and Nix gets the tater. Go figure. we just expect perfection from JV, and he loses a game when he pitches like the rest of the league- in this case, well enough to win.
2. T-Soap was on base three times today. Maybe he can contribute better than we thought. At least, he seemed to be in the game. The strikeout late didn’t help, but we were goners by then anyway.
3. We managed two hits off of Mariano. An accomplishment in itself. I can’t think of too many games where he basically went three and out on us. Good discipline for the guys a the bottom.

That’s about it. No Miggy, not enough Biggy, and V-Mart still trying to find the magic.
bullpen troubles seem to be flaring. Bring on the Jays. Good night all!

Yeah, those prime age figures for players are pretty general and obviously subject to individual variance. However, I got my figures from various scouts over the years, who had to make projections on prospects while taking into consideration age at signing and anticipated professional progress leading to maximum production periods. Not an exact science to say the least.


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