Saturday: Tigers vs. Indians

As expected, Magglio Ordonez and just-recalled Brandon Inge are in the Tigers lineup today against Cleveland left-hander David Huff. As suspected, the lineup critiques are probably going to come in about why Leyland isn’t playing his best possible lineup in the middle of this AL Central showdown.

But here’s the thing: There’s a pretty decent chance that Leyland is doing just that.

Leyland said he looked at this matchup earlier in the week and decided this was a spot for Ordonez. He’s 2-for-5 off David Huff. So is Inge. They’re small sample sizes, obviously, but they’re also feeding into a righty-heavy lineup against Huff. His stats through four starts for Cleveland this year actually show he’s been better against righties than lefties, but his numbers through 18 starts for Triple-A Columbus show right-handed hitters hit him for more damage and more power, even though batting average favored left-handed hitters.

Wilson Betemit, meanwhile, is batting .235 against left-handed pitching this year, compared to .309 against right-handers, with nearly a 300-point difference in OPS.

TIGERS

  1. Austin Jackson, CF
  2. Magglio Ordonez, RF
  3. Delmon Young, LF
  4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
  5. Victor Martinez, DH
  6. Alex Avila, C
  7. Jhonny Peralta, SS
  8. Brandon Inge, 3B
  9. Ramon Santiago, 2B

P: Doug Fister

INDIANS

  1. Michael Brantley, LF
  2. Shin-Soo Choo, RF
  3. Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
  4. Travis Hafner, DH
  5. Carlos Santana, C
  6. Kosuke Fukudome, CF
  7. Matt LaPorta, 1B
  8. Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B
  9. Luis Valbuena, 2B

P: David Huff

29 Comments

We’ve had heavy rain for 2 hours heading to Detroit. Might have a late start tonight.

Is Leyland even trying to win this game?

Inge at third? Ordonez batting second?

Is there an escalator clause in Cabrera’s contract that kicks in at a certain number of RBIs or something? Because that’s the only reason I can think of for the lack of production Leyland pencils in front of Miguel.

I actually don’t have a huge problem with anything except Magglio batting second? That I don’t get at all??

For tonight’s performance, the role of “Brennan Boesch” will be played by Magglio Ordonez. Brandon Inge rejoins the company reprising his original role as “The Thirdbaseman.”
That’s just how he does it, Gk. Sometimes I think I might even miss ol’ Jim when he’s gone.

He does have Santiago in there for Fister so I can’t complain. It works for me, although I may have lined ‘em up a little differently. Maybe move Ramon to 2nd, something like that.

When Fister is pitching you’ve got to have a good fielding infield – and that’s what jim has done here. It sucks maggs is batting 2nd but I don’t fault him for PLAYING maggs….I think i’d bat Santiago 2nd tonight. Delmon is better to bat at 3rd than maggs cuz maggs is a taylor made DP machine.

Leyland said he’s thinking of right side of infield opening up for Magglio if Jackson’s on base, can shoot a ball through the hole and get Jackson from first to third.

thats valid

As good a reason as any, and you can’t make out a lineup assuming that Jackson will never be on base. This would also get Maggs more ABs if he’s going to be lifted for defense later.
One of these days, JL’s lineups are going to work to perfection. It’s bound to happen. And everything he does is better than Ozzie hitting Dunn cleanup.

Austin seem to be hitting the ball a little better lately. Better late than never. He was so good last year and if he could return to form, it would be a blessing for this team.

Ya Rich I don’t understand what they are doing with Dunn either?

Boesch is a better choice than Maggs, LHP or not.

I like the lineup. Good defense in the infield. Brandon’s return makes this an interesting game to watch if nothing else. Lets see if he’s developed any kind of new approach at the plate. Ya never know. JL is trying to get Magglio going by picking the right situation. I like Maggs and haven’t necessarily given up on him yet. He is (was?)too good a hitter…. I appreciate every chance he gets. I do see the problem in getting him into the lineup. It’s not like there’s a hole to plug there with Boesch hitting and playing as well as he is. Let’s see if Maggs has something left in that bat. I hope he does. Avila and Peralta tucked in at 6 and 7 can ambush a pitcher. I like them back to back. Lets hope David Huff is not Cy Huff tonight Gk.

Had to laugh with Inges’s homer – no doubt plenty of entertaining banter will come, hopefully without the recent spate of trash talk that has pervaded this site in recent times.
Conspiracy theorists will argue the Indians intentionally gave him a hanging low 80’s pitch over the heart of the plate so he will get played thru to the end of season. :-)

WOW I THINK APOLOGIES ARE IN ORDER FOR MR. INGE

Ya, look what happens when a guy is around real hitting coach!

All right, Leadfoot Santiago!

It was a good game for us. Everything fell in or found holes as we built a large lead. Our defensive miscues weren’t costly. Mainly, Doug Fister pitched a whale of a game, had everything working for him. That’s how good he is when he’s on. And that is also the 4th consecutive good start this time through the rotation.
Good defense tonight overall. Santiago really cements the infield. Funny, but I don’t think Inge got one chance in the field, did he? Cleveland had a lot of lefties. Ordonez is going to have to be more aggressive in RF.
It looks like JL might have the right idea at this point. How about this time we drop the hammer on ‘em and get the sweep.

Holy Crow!
Just got home from a ball tournament and saw the score and was blown away. Who scripted this for Inge. And Fister must have pitched a whale of a game.
That is a nice surprise.

Looks to me like the key is Santiago at 2ndbase. He was everywhere tonight. Excellent running catch, a good slide on a close play at home, and steady work with Peralta. His added power lately is a real plus, but he’s been capable of that for a couple of years now. What Cabrera needs to do is quit ranging over in front of the 2ndbaseman as he has a habit of doing. He caused Fister to get an error tonight (reminded me of the perfect game). I guess those old 3rdbase habits are hard to break.
It also looks like JL’s lineup did indeed work to perfection tonight.

I am very encouraged by Fister’s performance. Wish I could have seenit but in general it looked like the Tiger pitchers were successful because they threw strikes with regularity.
Have to miss the game tomorrow too.
Be good to get Boshy back in the lineup tomorrow. Don’t much like him batting 2nd but he better get used to it.
BTW, AJ has not struck out in 8 games !!!!!.
That is extremely encouraging.

Tomorrow we’ll see if Porcello wants the ball in October.

JL, please continue to play Santiago.

Marty, did Ramon have a really good game today?. I see at the stick he was good.

Maggs and Delmon did nothing with the bat – it was all VMart, Alex, Inge and Santiago really. Santiago has been beyond himself lately – and it’d be nice to see the exact same infield in there today with Ricky (ground ball pitcher) in there today. I’d kinda like to see Pop-Fly Delmon to bat closer to 8th – bat santiago 2nd.

And did you guys see the smiles on everyones faces concerning “Inge” (camera always seemed to find Inge last night)? I think it’s easy to short sell Inge’s clubhouse impact (WHEN HE IS BATTING OVER .200) is all i’m saying.

Well for starters, Magglio did do something he had a hit, scored a run and had a sac fly, not exactly nothing. Delmon on the other hand did have a tough day at the plate. In my opinion.
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I really didn’t get to see most of the game, we had company last night. Tried to dvr the 12:00 am repeat but because of a football game that went over only the 1st five innings were tapped. I think that it is hilarious what Inge did last night, only time will tell if he continues to contribute. Looks like Fister’s night was pretty darn good and what we were hoping to see when we traded for him. And Rich we have had 4 good straight starting pitching performances let’s hope that Porcello gets his act together. He has been less than acceptable.
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Let’s go Tigers!

Two thoughts on Inge then I’m leaving the subject.
Last night in the first inning Rod thought they may be pitching around Peralta to get to Inge with the bases loaded. I told my wife they should not do that because Inge is going to do something big in his first AB. They got Peralta then Inge homered leading off the next inning. I’m not a seer, it’s just that things like that happen in sports.
Tom Gage, one of my main men, wrote an article declaring that there were only two camps; those that loved Inge and those that hated him. I have to disagree. There is that middle camp that neither loves nor hates him. I’m in that camp. For some unknown reason, Inge draws a lot of attention and I don’t know why that is and don’t care. He’s one of 25 and that’s all he’s ever been for me. He has positives and negatives………just like every person in that clubhouse. And every person on earth.
I just want the guys that give us the best chance to win, no matter who they are.

The media has always been kind to Brandon. The fans, many of them, not so kind., and some too kind As long as he keeps his mouth shut and puts his money where his mouth is, I have no problem with him, either,.We want to win.

There’s the camp that simply wants Inge to produce, and can say whatever he wants. I don’t care what Inge says. I don’t care what Inge does outside Comerica Park. I don’t care that he thinks he can “flick his wrists” and hit home runs, and I don’t care how he thinks pitchers are pitching to him.

I care that yesterday was his first multi-hit game in nearly a year, and that even with it, he’s still only hitting .183. Let’s see some semblance of consistency before we can claim he’s even back to his old mediocre self.

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