Best Leyland argument ever?

Jim Leyland doesn’t argue very many calls, at least not as many as his personality would suggest. If he’s coming out of the dugout to talk with an umpire, he’s more likely looking for an explanation than a fight. He knows he isn’t going to change anybody’s mind, so what’s the point? He doesn’t believe in ejections as motivational tools for his team.

And then there are times like Monday.

There was Leyland, arms flailing, head bobbing as he shouted at Ed Rapuano. There was rookie outfielder Andy Dirks in the background of the camera shot, and it was hard to tell if he was looking on in shock or trying to keep a straight face.

Yes, I remember when Leyland took an argument into the seventh inning stretch and stopped for God Bless America before picking it up. I also remember Leyland last August at Yankee Stadium and hearing the famous line, “They’re going to the playoffs, I ain’t going anywhere.”

To me, Monday topped that. The theatrics are the difference. There was a split second when I half-expected Leyland to stomp on first base. Thankfully, he didn’t.

It wasn’t the call he was arguing, but the method in which the call was reached. And that actually contributed to the theatrics.


Not sure why everybody thinks it was such a great argument. Rapuano can absolutely ask for help from the home plate umpire upon appeal from the Toronto manager (which he got) if he is blocked on the play. That is the exact reason why the home plate umpire is suppposed to follow the runner to first base. The umpires got it right…which is the point. This is just further evidence that Leyland is losing it. That, along with his stubborness in contiuing to play a failing Ryan Raburn every day.

It was great to see Leyland get fired up! I think it’s good for a manager to display some heart like this once in a while to the players and the fans…it gets them pumped up (as evidence, the crowd gave Leland a standing ovation following his tirade). As for the call itself, they got it right in the end, but the manner in which that happened was, at best, questionable. The “safe” call was clearly made as well as the 1st base official signaling that the player covering first base pulled his foot off the bag. After a few moments, the call was reversed by the very same official, which is very unusual.

Go Tigers!!!

Changed a umpires call-Galarraga?

I don’t mind a manager once in a blue moon throwing a fit, even if he is wrong. All part of the game as long as it doesn’t happen once a week. From what I hear the umps were totally right, I missed that part of the game, but nice to see some passion rather than the interviews he gives after the game where he looks bored to tears and like it is the last place on earth he’d rather be.

I posted before I actually watched it – best chuckle I have had in a while. Maybe when they realize they are wrong they just decide to keep going with it and make it worth their while. Either way i am ok with it, gets the players going a bit and fun for the crowd. LIke I said, if it happens all the time it gets old, once in a blue moon, priceless.

Me, too. Best laugh I’ve had in ages. He certainly made his point.

If that’s evidence that Leyland is losing it, as posted above, then every manager in baseball is losing it because they all would have reacted the same way. As I said last night, we had one of these just Friday night in Chicago. John McLaren was only to manage the weekend series on an interim basis, but he got booted for arguing the same thing. In last night’s case, it was the way the play was called, not the result. Called him safe, signaled pulled off the bag, and the homeplate ump only got involved when the Toronto manager came out. And you can’t help but consider the Jim Joyce game in all of this.
I agree, best Leyland argument ever. I did see him more angry once before he came to Detroit, when he physically attacked a Dodger player.
If this is evidence of anything, it’s that major league umpiring is going downhill.

Loved every second of it. Lovin our bats these days too!

I think the main problem is that when Toronto asked for an appeal to home plate in an (all things considered) minimal importance in the grand scheme of things game, the appeal was made and the call over turned. When an appeal was made in a more important game (as far as the record books go) there was no overturn on an just as obvious mis-call.

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