Wednesday: Tigers vs. Twins

Remember when I said Ryan Raburn would be back at second base today? Well, I should have said “probably,” because that’s the term Jim Leyland used last night. And that was before he probably factored in Raburn’s 2-for-10 history against Scott Baker. Santiago starts at second instead. Austin Jackson gets the day off, as planned.

TIGERS

  1. Don Kelly, LF
  2. Ramon Santiago, 2B
  3. Brennan Boesch, RF
  4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
  5. Victor Martinez, DH
  6. Andy Dirks, CF
  7. Jhonny Peralta, SS
  8. Alex Avila, C
  9. Brandon Inge, 3B

P: Rick Porcello

TWINS

  1. Denard Span, CF
  2. Alexi Casilla, SS
  3. Justin Morneau, 1B
  4. Michael Cuddyer, 2B
  5. Jim Thome, DH
  6. Danny Valencia, 3B
  7. Delmon Young, LF
  8. Jason Repko, RF
  9. Drew Butera, C

P: Scott Baker

23 Comments

Kelly leading off, ok with me but have we seen this before? Ah, another attemp at setting the record for most different line ups used in a season. As long as we win. It is a lot more fun to question the moves after a win. We sure need a few more home runs. It sure is windy today and a nice temerature. Go Tigers!

I think it is a good idea to get AJ out of there before the day off tomorrow. Personally, I’m glad to see Ramon play but if he wants more PT he better go 4 for 5 and turn 2 DPs.

I don’t care what Perolta is hitting against this guy … Bat him 3rd and Boesch 7th … Heyzues Christo …

What I find noteworthy is Kelly in left and Dirks in center. I’d have thought JL would do the opposite. Both guys can play all three outfield spots but this will be interesting.

Wow, this team is really starting to make some great outfield catches not involving Jackson.
A reliable fielder hitting 250-60 vs a 280 odd poor fielder that costs you defensively more often than not. A no brainer not even taking the effect on team morale.

Binge closing into the Golden Sombrero

Again , one hit in excess. Call the BP

I felt it was the right move to take RP out for a number of reasons. Pitch count, Morneau up, just dove for a ball (incredible dive as it was) and landed hard, you preserve the vchance of ictory and eliminate chance of loss as reward for a well pitched game.
However, I did not feel Schlereth is th guy to come in after not pitching for awhile and needing to prove himself in pressure situations. He promplty plunked Morneau and then JL did the right thinga again by bringing in Q.
The guy has been impressive and surprised everybody with that fastball to K the last batter.

I’d be very tempted to leave Q in. He can walk guys, true, but Benoit always seems to struggle a bit. Almost a trade off. Probably best to go with the vet and leave the sweet taste of success in Q’s mouth.

I do not agree with walking Morneau. Go ahead run is at bat now. Tying run on 1st and a double will tie the game. yes there are 2 RHB up here. Cuddyer is dangerous.

Why put the tying run on?

Leyland is genius ain’t he?

Oh I see. That’s why.

You won’t believe me, but I actually would have walked Morneau too. He looks like a guy who’s heating up. And if both those runs score, both me and Jim look like idiots. :-)
That game appeared more lopsided than it was. We’ll be dealing with a different Minnesota team next time.
When you see a guy in the opposing lineup hitting .126, don’t you just know he’s going to do some damage? Do other team’s fans feel that way? Or is it just me?
Now…..can we avoid losing the next three in a row?

All Morneau could have done was tie the game. Cuddyer could have won it and he has burned our team multiple times in the past. JL rollin the die on that one. This is not the Minnesota team we’re used to seeing. They looked so inept tonight you almost feel sorry for them. Almost…..

Schlereth needs to recoup. He’s a scary guy right now.

Yeah Schlereth seems to have real control issues right now. Not the guy I’d want to go with in that situation. Morneau would have made him throw at least one strike anyway. Why go with plan B when plan A which was Q was ready? Lefty lefty match up I guess. Logically the safe call.
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Rod says to Mario, “Butera hits a HR and Gardenhire takes him out for a pinch hitter? Mario replies, “Well he’s hitting .125.” It was probably the right move at the time but you wonder what goes on in Butera’s mind when the manager doesn’t have the confidence in him to reward him for hitting the HR. Why do guys who hit .125 seem to be the ones who burn you? Porcello threw that pitch to Butera right down the pipe. He let up mentally and got burned.

I would have walked Morneau also. Cuddyer is the better match up for Valverde. Did not see the dinger by Miggy. Poor Brandon, I see he struck out 3 times. Again, great pitching and good defense and the 3 run homer.

I see the strategy was that if Cuddyer was kept in the ballpark, Trevor Plouffe was next up. That makes all the sense in the world if not for the fact that .124 hitting Drew Butera had HOMERED earlier. We were that close to one of those “magical moments.” :-)

Worked out OK but I realy get nervous with Valverde and base runners. Theo only base runner he ever looks at is if he has one on SECOND base? Thought I think he took a peek at a guy on 1st the other day over his RIGHT shoulder!!! The guy is unorthodox for sure. I don’t know why managers don’t run on him more.

Read an article on MLive.com. Riciculous. This guy must be taking over (as JL/DD apologist) from Lorne Henning at the News (who has been a bit more realistic lately).
One of the quotes:”There is pervasive sentiment that Ramon Santiago should play every day as the permanent solution at second base. Within the inner circle, the concern is that Santiago would break down physically by mid-summer if asked to play regularly”.
What does Ramon have some sort of bone disease that imperils his abilities to play baseball? If he is so physically challenged then why even have him on the roster? What are they saving him for and from?
The above sentiment vomited to the media from management is one of the reasons I don’t believe very much of anything JL says. He too often has an agenda that disregards the “honesty and truth” he so often alludes to.
Ramon Santiago is not a compelling answer as our regular 2Bman or shortstop. He’s not. But he is as adequate as any infielder in the big leagues to play there if his team needs it. Whether it’s to fill in for a day or two or for longer periods covering for someone on the DL.
To portray him as a china doll in order to justify playing guys like Raburn, Worth, Rhymes,Sizemore and Guillen is wrong -headed and deceitful. For a guy (talking about JL now), who asserts himself in the media as one who is no-nonsense, old-school and just tells it like it is, that is downright B.S.
I don’t know what our solution for 2B is either, but I do know that Santiago can bunt, field that position very well, run the bases better than most of the slugs we have on the club and hit from both sides of the plate at least a little deserves more respect when being publicly discussed by his manager.

I agree 100% with everything you said. How do they know he’ll break down if he never plays more than 2 or 3 games in a row? They’re all weak excuses covering for something else, but what that may be I don’t know.

As you know, Dan, you’re preaching to a choir that many of us here sing in, but the choir likes to listen to a sermon too. Hopefully the rest of the flock is getting the message.
The “wear down” argument is at direct odds with the “if he was a burner” statement. What, if Ramon was a faster runner he wouldn’t wear down? How silly does all this sound? I have a suspicion that JL just doesn’t know what to do with ballplayers without big time power. Even his leadoff hitters have been power guys and I’m including Jackson in that group. He’s there for doubles and triples, not for any leadoff skills he might (but doesn’t) have. Think about it.
Actually, I don’t know why some of the writers feel the need to write this kind of article at all. The “it’s better than it was ten years ago” argument just doesn’t hold water anymore. You may as well compare current management with 1950s management at this point in time. That was TEN years ago and, while we may be seen as competing in a weak division, we’re not winning anything.
We’ll follow the club because we grew up with them and like baseball. Those are the real fans. I suppose these articles are aimed at the casual fans. I really have no idea.

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