Inge sure sounds like a Tiger next year, and beyond

To hear Brandon Inge talk about the multi-year contract offer he received from the Tigers, one would think he already had his signature on it. That was the tone of his voice. 
“I’m absolutely ecstatic about it,” Inge said. “This is where I want to play, as long as they’ll let me. A multi-year [deal], I feel like they’re showing me a little respect. And it’s another thing where everyone’s comfortable with everyone, meaning myself and the organization. They know what they’re going to get. I’m going to go out there and play as hard as I can, rain or shine, whether I’m injured or not. And I think it maybe eases their mind a little bit.”
He caught himself eventually and cautioned that he hasn’t agreed to it yet, that there’s still a business side involved. Still, walking away from the interview, it was difficult to envision Inge not being a Tiger next season.
“You never know,” he said, “but in general, [it's] the gesture of telling me that they want me back and already starting out with an offer. And obviously, there’s a dirty business side of it, but that’s just to be handled. You just have to do what’s fair for you and your family at that point. I’m not looking to break the bank. I just want what’s fair. That’s all.”
It is not hard to envision Inge and the Tigers reaching an agreement before he hits the free-agent market.
“I don’t want to make it for certain, because like I said, there’s a business side of it, but absolutely,” Inge said. “If it’s fair, which I don’t really foresee them not being fair, then absoultely, without a doubt. I’m a person who’s big on loyalty. If they stick beside me and they showed me the gesture this way, then I’m going to stick beside them. I love that. That’s right up my alley as far as respect for the game, respect for an organization, and a lot of loyalty.”
The fact that the Tigers started out with a multi-year offer, rather than a one-year stopgap, is a good sign. Inge had hinted that he was looking for a multi-year deal, possibly even three years, but two years is a good starting point for both sides. 
The fact that they started out on that road seemed to catch Inge by surprise.
“It was a matter of whether I was wanted, in my mind,” Inge said. “My only thing was I’m not going to play somewhere where I’m not wanted, that’s all. I’m not saying that in any disrespectful way, but if somebody doesn’t really want you around, then that’s probably not the best move they should make, and I respect that. I’d go my separate ways, then. And obviously [the offer], that’s what I wanted to hear.”

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Where are the Tiger scouts who spotted A Jackson, Scherzer, Schlereth, and Coke? Are they still doing their jobs? Right now I wouldn’t give up any of those four players. Does anyone think the Yankees would fall for another deal involving one of their minor league players who has nowhere to go with A-Rod playing 3rd base? Yes, I am talking about Gerald Laird’s brother, Brandon. Now he might be a Brandon most of us could live with. I really think this is the kind of deal that DD is best at pulling off. One with no famous names attached, just a lot of potential. Remember when he got Carlos Guillen? We all said “Who?” Even though Carlos has had his problems lately, he was a surprise find at the beginning.

Well, Dave says lots of things with a straight face and then we find out everything has changed. I’m sure if there’s a deal he can’t walk away from, he’ll surely try and get it done. Brandon talks about loyalty. Whoever thought in a million years that Grandy would be traded?
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Carlos had already been in the Majors for a number of years when we got him. He was spectacular in his younger days at SS. Think he was with Seattle when DD got him.
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I’m watching this afternoon’s game and can’t believe Boesch did not get an error on that mishap in the 1st inning. Made me cringe.

There are decent free agents out there. I don’t think he is possible but Erik Bedard could really help this team.
As could Vlad, Kubel, Beltre and John Buck. Maybe Jesse Crain for the pen. Downs would be nice.
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I guess we can forget Beltre now that St. Brandon (the patron saint of the 2003 Tigers), will be back until he feels like it.
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I don’t think we can land Dunn. He would have to agree to DH and it might get under his craw to watch MCab lead the league in errors. From what I’ve seen of Dunn, he does an adequate job at 1st–not a big play guy like Cab can be at times, but serviceable. But no way would you even want to consider not playing Cab in the field—he loves it too much and he would make a lousy DH probably. Let’s hope those days are 10 years off and that he is still a Tiger!
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From what I heard today it sounds like management has deluded itself into thinking everything is pretty much OK.
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Makes me squirm in my seat.
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Someone mentioned Carl Crawford being ideal for us and our ballpark. It would be an absolute treat to see him in our lineup and patrolling LF alongside AJ.

I find it odd that all these announcements would be made today, since DD usually plays it much more closely to the vest. Are they trying to divert attention away from 2010 as quickly as possible? There seems to be one school of thought which believes we’re not that far away from contending, and another that believes we’re far from contending. I guess the definition of “contending” would be in order.
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I had Inge on my list of players to be replaced. I don’t know if that surprises anyone, but that’s the fact. Part of the problem with his presence on the roster is that he dictates to JL how much he plays, injured or not. He might be better if he took some days off, but he plays day in and day out, just as Boesch did this season. How many games were lost with that glaring hole in the lineup after Brennan had clearly lost it for this season?
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Regarding Adam Dunn, I’m not so sure he’s any worse in the outfield than Boesch. Don’t laugh.
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I still have to remain on record as thinking that JL will bring this club in near .500 regardless of personnel. So now I’m waiting for 2012? How many years do I have left?
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–Rich

In my lifetime will I get to see the Tigers win a World Series or even make it to the playoffs?

Rich: How many years do I have left? pup6969: In my lifetime will I get to see the Tigers even make it to the playoffs? Hey guys, I am 69 and just had my 6th ear operation Sept 30. Don’t you think I am beginning to wonder the same things? My Dad, a lifelong Tiger fan, passed away in 1983. Do you know what he missed in 1984? ‘Nuff said about that.

I, for one, am happy to see Brandon coming back. I don’t know where everyone thinks the Tigers would be able to find a replacement of his caliber defensively. So he doesn’t light it up at the plate. If they brought in some no-name at third, would he hit .300 with 30 HR and 100 RBI? It’s highly unlikely. As it stands, Brandon is the best option at 3B for at least next year.
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To me, DD is taking care of the much more glaring problems in the lineup: Laird is out, Bondo is out, Magglio’s big $$$ is out (although I’d like to see him come back at DH for lesser money).
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My big concern is giving the 4th spot in the rotation to Coke with only one start (today!) under his belt. Sounds a lot like what they did with Sizemore coming into this season, and I’m not a fan of that type of move.

Actually, Dave has been pretty up-front with some of his end-of-season comments in recent years. I was a little surprised that he did them Sunday rather than Monday or Tuesday back in Detroit, but he did the same thing two years ago when they had to travel to Chicago for the makeup game with the White Sox.
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As for Rich’s observation about the outfield, I will say this: Boesch has the athletic ability at his age to be a better outfield than he is, significantly better. But there’s a question to be answered in recent months as to whether he takes bad at-bats with him out to the field.
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Dunn, on the other hand, is who he is. And on a contending team, that’s a DH.

pup6969 “In my lifetime will I get to see the Tigers win a World Series or even make it to the playoffs?”

Unless you are 3 years old, you have. Remember 2006, the year they weren’t supposed to make it, but did?

I think the general consensus, and understandably so, is that they would have been contenders this year if not for injuries. Although playing “What if” doesn’t really get you anywhere, there is still some good reason to feel that way when you look at the 1st half of the season vs. the 2nd half. By no means is this a team that needs overhauled in order to be a contender, they just need to be healthy and a little fine tuning (such as the moves with Laird and Bondo).

Okay, thanks for that info, Jason. I was in Quebec two years ago at this time and missed DD’s announcements then.
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Boesch absolutely has the athletic skills to be a better outfielder, but I wonder if he’s willing to put in the work. From what I hear about him, he’s totally fixated on hitting. It’s up to Brennan. Not knowing him personally, it’s all I have to go on. I draw a parallel to Raburn, who also has the athletic skills for the outfield. His problem was decision-making, and he’s appeared to have improved in that area.
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You hit the nail on the head with Dunn. If he refuses to be a DH, his options are limited. There’s also the question of whether he can obtain the mindset to be a full time DH, as some can’t do it. I do know that Adam would be very popular in Detroit.
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–Rich

Bosech seems to have trouble on the line drives hit straight at him. The ball in the first inning yesterday should of been caught, but he froze and it was over his head. I would have to put Wells ahead of him right now going into next year. Wells has trouble hitting the breaking pitch down. Boesch has trouble hitting the same pitch and he cannot layoff the high fastballs.
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Jason, nice job ducking that foul ball and saving your computer yesterday.
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Mark

You are right, tmb1975. The word “again” should have been added to the sentence. I’ve seen 1968, and 1984. That’s a long stretch between WS titles that I may not be able to endure. 2006 may be as close as I’ll ever see again. Many young people don’t understand, sometimes, how difficult it is to win a WS or even get close to one. Can’t say I’m in that group, but ’08 was surely going to be WS time, wasn’t it? Nope. ’09? Nope.
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Hanley Ramirez might have made a great SS. Danny Worth has a tremendous glove and I hope he does well in ST.
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I have no confidence in BB anymore. Chalk that one up on the coaching staff by not sending him to Toledo way back in early August.

The roster next year looks far too much like this years.
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The key to being a contender is the word “established”. If DD thinks you cn go into 2011 without an ESTABLISHED
-corner outfielder
-DH
-2B
-2nd catcher
-LHP starter (Coke is NOT “established”)
-late inning reliever
Then he is selling the fans another bill of goods.
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We can get by with a guy like Rhymes at 2B if most of the other needs are met. To count on Sizemore to handle the job defenively would be dangerous. I do think Raburn can learn how to play left. He is scary out there and he does have holes in his swing but the guy can produce and can get hot enough to carry a team for a while.
Again, my preference is to go out and get Carl Crawford. A guy like him transforms our team in so many ways. The club could have 3 rabbits at the top of the lineup.
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Inge is a lighning rod among Tiger fans. He elicits such strong opinions about his play like no other Tiger I have seen in a long while. Some think he is the second coming and some think he has already come and gone. I like him and agree that his defensive skills are very important, I just do not agree in the misguided assumption that he will not hurt you offensively. He will–time and time again, he will strike out and kill a rally. To me this is a position where you have the “opportunity” to locate a slugger, a game-changer. Yes, he has to be able to field the postion but in my mind the stronger emphasis for defense is up the middle at short and 2nd.
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My fears for next year are that Dombrowski will actually find his, shortstop, DH and corner outfielder that they so badly need. Their names will be Peralta, Guillen and Ordonez.
He’s already found his 3rd baseman!
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Sounds all too familiar.
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Let me clarify my opinion about Peralta. I like him. I like him almost a lot. He does get better with men on base. He is solid in the field and has a reliable arm.
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HOWEVER, he will not get to the balls in the hole and up the middle or steal you 20 bases. We do need that. He will also get frustrated with the outfield fence at Comerica. We could do worse (Everett) so I won’t complain if he stays—-like I say, I do like him. Of course the “management mantra” will be they need Inge to cover up for Jhonny’s limited range.
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I would love to see Dunn here but I can’t see where he would fit. If he doesn’t want to DH that is. We certainly can’t have him and Cab and Ordonez in the middle of the lineup clogging up the bases.
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And Coke being duly appointed as a starter? Typical Tiger Hope & Dream.
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Like I said earlier–get Erik Bedard.
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Looking forward to Lloyd gettting a managing job somewhere this year. We could certainly use a change there.
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Disappointing year. A lot of us thought it would be. What I don’t like though the pretense that is shoved down our collective throats from management that everything is OK.
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Pittsburgh just fired their manager. I have a native son I could recommend for them!

Actually, we have three guys who could re-don the steeltown P.
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DD doesn’t like to get into FA bidding wars, and I can’t say that that’s a bad strategy. You end up using too much payroll on one player, and we already have that on the current roster. If a trade is made, we do have the capability (right now) of taking on a semi-hefty salary. I look for trades to fill some of these spots. The roster as it stands today isn’t good enough to win more than about 83 games. That obviously doesn’t take into account any unexpected improvement, or hope and dream, with a tip of the cap to Dan.
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I’d like to see more stolen base attempts from Jackson and Rhymes. We need to do more than just putting runners in motion. It’s too bad Jim has already stated that he won’t do anything differently.
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On a general note, I wonder if the commissioner still wants to “penalize” the wild card by taking away home games and such. The Yankees are the wild card………..
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–Rich

Sigh, another season over. Means summer is officially over in my book, although technically I stopped getting too into the game 3 or 4 weeks ago.

So Bondo, Damon, and Laird won’t be pursued. I won’t cry about really any of them. I am glad I got to see Damon play this year in person but one year doesn’t do much for me as far as being a huge fan. I think we have too many good young outfielders to have him. Laird I never had huge love for either. Bondo was a roller coaster for me, I have a lot of love for the guy but using my head he is too big a liability to keep around.

Can you believe we ended up dead even in our record? Crazy game. time for me to start my wish list for next year. A healthy and just as dominant Miguel with a healthy Ordonez at dh. I am still trying to work in a healthy Guillen someplace too – I know, he likely is never going to be healthy enough for the field and we don’t need 2 dh but I am not ready to let him go yet.

OK Twins, time to regroup, you make our division look much better if you can do well.

Ok, our season is over (heavy sigh). Looks like some new people coming on. Welcome! Yes, the players are on the field but cant’t the manager give bunt signs and steal signs?
Oh yeah, and know when to pull the pitcher and when to leave him in! Dan, you made a comment earlier about Aurelio Rodriguez. Was he a better fielder than Inge? I know he had a rocket for an arm. We have a young, talented pitching staff. Add an outfielder that can hit for power, a slick fielding shortstop, and a few good arms in the bullpen and I think we can compete. My first rah rah for the new season. Go Tigers, 2011. –Dave

Did anyone watch the interview with the Met’s ownership? They fired their GM and manager. Took total responsibility for the failure of the team. This is a team with almost an identical record since ’06 that we have and the same payroll. I was very impressed. They want the fans to have hope and those guys weren’t getting it done. They blamed themselves for hiring them.

Kudos to the management of the Tigers!! Based on what i have read and viewed online it looks like they are headed in the right direction! While these decisions are often difficult, demanding, and emotional I am hoping all will work out.
Go TIGERS 2011!!!

Interesting Red Roses. Your perspective through those rose coloured glasses is music to my ears. I just don’t agree.
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Dave—Aurelio was solid. Not much got by him. I have never seen anyone so spectacular as Brandon on foul pops and particularly in or near the seats. But Aurelio could pick it and his arm was as true a s a crossbow. It may seem odd for me to say but Brandon is much more an offensive force than the original A-Rod was.
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We just have to do a better job scoring with RISP. Now, how are you going to do that? Will Jackson still be leadoff? Probably. Who will bat second. These guys gotta hit better, learn to bunt, and run the bases. It’s pathetic that we just wait and wait for someone to hit a HR. We don’t really have a speedster, either. Jackson is fairly fast but not outstanding.
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Phil Coke starting? Because he’s a lefty. Isn’t there a lefty out there we can buy or trade for?

Aurelio paired with Eddie Brinkman at short pretty much sealed off the left side. It’s too bad we couldn’t watch as many games in those days, as it makes comparisons difficult. Tommy Brookens wasn’t no slouch over there either and was a cog in a very excellent infield during the 1980s. You can’t put enough emphasis on sound inner defense.
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Just to make clear, I do like Inge and he’s living practically in my home town. I thought it might be time for a change at thirdbase but, if not, then it’s all the more important to strengthen other positions offensively. What has always bugged me about Brandon is that the dude can hit better than he does. I’m sure of it. I suspect he relies upon his considerable athletic ability at the plate, and that’s not the way to go. He was hitting up a storm early in ’09 but now I don’t see the same stance or approach. It’s befuddling and frustrating. But at least he’s a guy we can like, so it could be worse. Yeah, I’m trying to put a good face on it.
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Other than being disappointed that we’re retaining Leyland, I won’t pass judgement until I see what kind of trades and acquisitions we make. I don’t want to show up in spring training to see a team that “everyone” is picking to finish third.
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–Rich

Also, imho, Miguel Cabrera is the heart and soul of this team.

At this point I’m expecting the Tigers to fill most of their holes from within. However I do think they will make at least 1 HUGE free agent splash & will try to add a series of complimentary pieces.
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The HUGE splash should be as I stated earlier – Carl Crawford. As someone stated earlier hitting him behind Jackson & Rhymes puts 3 speedsters in front of Cabby. Plus the defense, huge gaps, & short RF porch play right into Crawford’s game.
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Then another crafty lefty like Ted Lilly would work well. He along with Coke would complement the hard throwing righties JV & Max. I would only offer a 1 or 2 year deal here.
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Next on the shopping list should be 2 veteran relief pitchers. Preferably 1 righty & 1 lefty to help firmly anchor the bullpen. I envision Grant Balfour & Scott Downs being perfect fits respectively.
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Fourth has to be a veteran right handed hitting catcher like John Buck. He would fit nicely with Avila and besides providing adequate defense he would actually provide some pop in the batting order.
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Lastly I would really push to ink Jim Thome. The Twins stole him last year and the damage he would save the Tigers alone would be worth the money. Just ask JV about what Thome can do. The power lefty bat off the bench would be a valuable weapon & when Maggs is playing RF Thome could be the regular DH against right handed pitching.
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In summary this is the roster I would like to see hit the field next year for our 2011 Detroit Tigers:
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Starting Lineup:
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1. Jackson (CF)
2. Rhymes (2B)
3. Crawford (LF)
4. Cabrera (1B)
5. Ordonez (RF)
6. Thome (DH)
7. Peralta (SS)
8. Inge (3B)
9. Avila (C)
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Bench: Raburn (OF), Buck (C), Santiago (IF), Kelly (UT)
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Rotation:
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1. Verlander
2. Scherzer
3. Lilly
4. Porcello
5. Coke
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Bullpen:
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Galarraga (long relief/5th starter)
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Perry, Schlereth, Zumaya (middle relief)
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Balfour & Downs (set-up)
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Valverde (closer)
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As for Carlos I would pay him his money and cut him loose. He will be injured again next year & will complain about not playing. We have better options at this point. Thanks for all you have done Carlos but see you later & good luck. I may even put Armando in this spot as well as he seems to bring a lot of attitude with him to the mound and the Galarraga we saw in 2008 seems to be gone forever. Time to move on.

While Carl Crawford would fill a lot of needs and make us an instant contender, I’d be shocked if we signed him. I’d be pretty durned surprised if we even made a serious run at him. We already carry two superstar contracts with Verlander and Cabrera. We also need to factor in Crawford having played nine seasons on turf. He’s already this season missed games due to “aches and pains.” I’d have a fear of being locked into another long and eventually useless contract. Clubs like the Yankees can eat that with no problem. I’d love to see him here, but I don’t see that happening.
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I think the FA signings will involve relief pitchers. A trade for a bat might be more likely.
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If I’m paying Guillen $13 mil, he will at least be a utility player for me until he gets injured. There’s also the insurance angle if he goes on the DL.
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BTW, does anyone know who are the potential FAs for next year?
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–Rich

Check out mlbtraderumors.com Rich.
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It’s a great sight with tons of baseball insight and has a link on the right side for free agents going into both 2011 and even 2012.

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