Friday: Tigers at White Sox

Normally, left-handed hitters like Brennan Boesch and Johnny Damon wouldn’t be playing against White Sox lefty Mark Buehrle. With a hot, humid night in Chicago and the ball threatening to fly (though the flags atop the scoreboard are blowing in), however, Leyland wants to get his power guys in the lineup. Thus, Boesch and Damon play. Ramon Santiago is off.

TIGERS

  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, DH
  3. Peralta, SS
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, 2B
  6. Inge, 3B
  7. Boesch, RF
  8. Raburn, LF
  9. Laird, C

P: Jeremy Bonderman

WHITE SOX

  1. Juan Pierre, LF
  2. Omar Vizquel, 3B
  3. Alex Rios, CF
  4. Paul Konerko, DH
  5. Mark Teahen, RF (just activated from DL today)
  6. Alexei Ramirez, SS
  7. A.J. Pierzynski, C
  8. Mark Kotsay, 1B
  9. Gordon Beckham, 2B

P: Mark Buehrle

24 Comments

Carlos! It’s early but Bonderman is looking better than Buehrle.

Bondo had some trouble in the middle innings.
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We are at that point now. Let’s see if he can get through this 5th inning.

No question the DH role also killed JD this year turning one of the most consistent clutch MLB batters into SOC rubble:
2010 Average: .288/.356/.438 (career .278/.364/.420)
2010 RISP: .194/.309/.301 (Career .292/.372/.439)
2010 Bases Loaded: .111/.273/.111 (C .386/.420/.579).

That’s how you play ball JL.
2st & 2nd nobody out—-you BUNT.
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Don’t matter you are LHB with power no drama–1st pitch sac bunt = 2 men in scoring position.
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Kudos to Ozzie and jeers to our manager who seems to only ever bunt with Santiago or a Toledo call-up.
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4-0 now. Oops–worst of all I am listening to that jerk Harrelson.
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BTW, Buehrle is making us look like we can’t hit—Oh, I guess that ain’t too hard right now for anyone.
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I have no confidence in this management team. These are the guys who though Everett could be an everday shortstop because the team would hit enough to compensate, to put Dontrelle Willis in the starting rotation, to gush all over Johnny Damon who has been one of the worst hitters in baseball with RISP, who think that Brandon Inge is Mike Schmidt or Brooks Robinson, who gifted 2nd base to a rookie who had never played one stich of MLB. Who thought that Carlos Guillen is a power guy worthy of DHing.
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The worst of it is the unfounded belief that Jim Leyland will lead them to the promised land.

Everyone who follows baseball knows Baltimore was a horrible team this year.
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Voila!
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They change mangagers and are 9-2 under Bucky Showalter and beating good teams too.
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HELLOOOOO—-MIKE ILLITCH—-Are you there?
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I can just here JL pleading his case with Big Mike.
“Mr. Illitch, Sir, I could bring a championship to the city of Detroit. To be honest with you, these injuries have hurt our club this year but I like our rookies, I like them a lot, and to tell you the truth, next year will be a different stroy. Especially after you made things right by giving me a guranatee for next year. It’s only fair that I get paid for not producing kinda like many of the players Dave signed for millions and some of them getting paid for nothing or for playing for other teams.
You and I both know way more than the fans and I’m pretty sure they will keep puttin their fannies in the seats for ya. Like I said, the fans don’t know a GD thing. They think we need a 3rd baseman, AND a middle infield. We got all that covered and if we come up dry at some position next year then we can always play Carlos there. I promised a job for next season anyway.
And let’s keep Johnny Damon. This guy is a godsend, to tell the honest truth, I can have him handle the media for me or even tell the kids how to hit when Lloyd is busy with all that he does.
Catching I just ain’t worried about, Laird has 3 bad years then a good one so after next year he might hit .250 again. Besides, there’s this kid catchin’ for us down in the Gulf Coast League that is gonna set this league on fire real soon. Patrick sumpin’—-gonna be a good one.
Like I said sir, we’re in pretty good shape and to be god honest truthful I think we’re gonna take the whole GD thing next year”

Everyone who follows baseball knows Baltimore was a horrible team this year.
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Voila!
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They change managers and are 9-2 under Bucky Showalter and beating good teams too.
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HELLOOOOO—-MIKE ILLITCH—-Are you there?
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I can just hear JL pleading his case with Big Mike.
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“Mr. Illitch, Sir, I could bring a championship to the city of Detroit. To be honest with you, these injuries have hurt our club this year but I like our rookies, I like them a lot, and to tell you the truth, next year will be a different stroy. Especially after you made things right by giving me a guranatee for next year. It’s only fair that I get paid for not producing kinda like many of the players Dave signed for millions and some of them getting paid for nothing or for playing for other teams.
You and I both know way more than the fans and I’m pretty sure they will keep puttin their fannies in the seats for ya. Like I said, the fans don’t know a GD thing. They think we need a 3rd baseman, AND a middle infield. We got all that covered and if we come up dry at some position next year then we can always play Carlos there. I promised a job for next season anyway.
And let’s keep Johnny Damon. This guy is a godsend, to tell the honest truth, I can have him handle the media for me or even tell the kids how to hit when Lloyd is busy with all that he does.
Catching I just ain’t worried about, Laird has 3 bad years then a good one so after next year he might hit .250 again. Besides, there’s this kid catchin’ for us down in the Gulf Coast League that is gonna set this league on fire real soon. Patrick sumpin’—-gonna be a good one.
Like I said sir, we’re in pretty good shape and to be god honest truthful I think we’re gonna take the whole GD thing next year”

It’s the last sentence that rings so true, dan. We can only wonder how these guys would have performed with a different manager.

Watching MLBtv, case in point: Aubrey Huff. They’re calling him NL MVP. He was terrfic before he came to the Tigers and he’s great after the Tigers. What came between?

What it must be like to have a consistent pitcher – and know I don’t think that JV is consistent. Bondo is good for one outing then is just okay but the team doesn’t score anything – then the next outing he sucks. That seems to be the MO for this team. They just can’t seem to put it all together which I suppose is the sign of a bad team. There certianly is some talent there but nobody on this team can step up. Look at the Twins have been without Morneau for longer than we have been without Maggs. And they have guys like Repko, and Valencia stepping up. Kubel is starting to get his act together. Look at the White Soxs line-up – do you look at that team and go wow??? But they play as a team.
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I really thought that Bondo was outpitching Buerhle – and wham a couple of seeing eye singles, a bunt and a 3 run homer.
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Cabrera still isn’t doing anything. Our pitching is horrible. And why does it seem that when we play the White Soxs there is always rain involved??

Just to comment of Huff – I think when he came to the Tigers he was used as a DH most of the time and he like Sheffield never could really adjust to that. He gets to play in the field and everyday.

I don’t think our pitching is that bad. Bondo sure did look good for the first few innings. I wouldn’t give up on him. We just can’t hit.

Bondo in 8 seasons has only once got his ERA close to 4.0 in 2006. you are always going to score above the AL 4.5 average runs/game to win with him.

Boy JL really fired up his club during that rain delay.
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BLOG is not working all that well tonight—kind a like the ball club. Dysfunctional and all over the map.

Here’s a repost. I hope it gets place properly this time:
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Everyone who follows baseball knows Baltimore was a horrible team this year.
.
Voila!
.
They change managers and are 9-2 under Bucky Showalter and beating good teams too.
.
HELLOOOOO—-MIKE ILLITCH—-Are you there?
.
I can just hear JL pleading his case with Big Mike.
.
“Mr. Illitch, Sir, I could bring a championship to the city of Detroit. To be honest with you, these injuries have hurt our club this year but I like our rookies, I like them a lot, and to tell you the truth, next year will be a different stroy. Especially after you made things right by giving me a guranatee for next year. It’s only fair that I get paid for not producing kinda like many of the players Dave signed for millions and some of them getting paid for nothing or for playing for other teams.
You and I both know way more than the fans and I’m pretty sure they will keep puttin their fannies in the seats for ya. Like I said, the fans don’t know a GD thing. They think we need a 3rd baseman, AND a middle infield. We got all that covered and if we come up dry at some position next year then we can always play Carlos there. I promised a job for next season anyway.
And let’s keep Johnny Damon. This guy is a godsend, to tell the honest truth, I can have him handle the media for me or even tell the kids how to hit when Lloyd is busy with all that he does.
Catching I just ain’t worried about, Laird has 3 bad years then a good one so after next year he might hit .250 again. Besides, there’s this kid catchin’ for us down in the Gulf Coast League that is gonna set this league on fire real soon. Patrick sumpin’—-gonna be a good one.
Like I said sir, we’re in pretty good shape and to be god honest truthful I think we’re gonna take the whole GD thing next year”

Damon certainly has been the answer for the Tigers this year, especially tonight. 0 for 4, 3 strikeouts, 5 stranded runners. He is following in the tradition of Sheffield, Huff, Pena, Munson, etc. And now Bonine comes in to pitch batting practice. So Damon can only hit if he plays LF every game? Bonine and Zach Miner can only pitch well if they are starters? This team, or is it JL, certainly does everything backwards.

The Tig injuries have been Miner, Seay, and Zoom for the season and Inge, Maggs and the part timer Carlos. The Tigs would be close to having the least amount of injuries in MLB.
In comparison, the Twins have Nathan out for the season with Morneau, Hardy, Punto, Slowey, Rauch, Casilla, Condrey, Mijares and Tolbert on DL.
Maggs played 84 games compared to Morneau 81 and Mauer 101 of a possible 116.
Take away the extraordinary feats of Miggs and Boesch prior to the break and the Tigs would be already sub 400.

Best laugh I’ve had in ages,dan. And so HONEST. Is anyone else having problems posting?

Mumbles: “that’s just baseball. Just let him keep on grinding.”

Just to keep the record straight, Huff joined us on or about August 16 last year and played no games in the field. Zero. None. Not an inning. And when he left, he supposedly called Leyland’s managing “bizarre.” He was a guy who could play thirdbase but we stuck with a crippled and non-productive Inge.
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And that was our last shot at a division crown for years to come.
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–Rich

That is interesting. I hadn’t heard that comment but it certainly doesn’t surprise me and makes a lot of sense.
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Huff struggled to be sure, but he was mishandled and never got the feel of being on the team IMO. He had a big Home Run in the rain though that kept the team alive when we started to falter.
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Anyway–this year’s messiah is hitting. .222 with men on, .194 with RISP and .150 with RISP and 2 out. Today’s performance was an exclamation mark.
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Cab has lost his edge, Boesch his confidence, Valverde his grip, the fans their faith and Leyland his mind.

slowbyrne, your last sentence says it all.

He has also misused Granderson adn AJ. Their speed could have produced many ore stolen bases. Heck when AJ gets on he is not a threat to steal at all. Seems like they are intent o keeping the hole open for Damon even if hecontinues to not hit it.
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JL has under-used many guys here. Raburn, Thames, Infante, Miner, Santiago, and overused guys like Inge, Guillen, Everett and Laird.. Let’s not forget the cow-towing to upper management and the perpetual use of Dontrelle Willis when it was evident to all he was going to put an L on the board for the team whenever he pitched.
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He (and DD is to blame here too) has built an offense with no speed, no power, no rally-makers, no fundamentals and no creativity. 21st out of 29 teams in homers and RBIS—all the while playing for the elusive 3-run Home Run. 27th in Stolen Bases. 28th in Sac Flies and 23rd in Sac Bunts
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A defense that is below average.
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He has built a rotation of starters that he seems to throw under the bus when they lose.
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He has built a bullpen that houses such stalwarts as Thomas, Bonine, Gonzalez, and Weinhardt.
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A pitching staff that unbelievably is in the bottom third of MLB in ERA, Strikeouts, WHIP and Saves. With 3 complete games all year. 4th worst in baseball in Wild Pitches AND Balks
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Now those are stats–facts.
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More subjectively JL has built a team that is dysfunctional on the field in terms of supporting each other. A team that gives up runs after they score, a team that is constantly failing to bring runners in from 3rd base, a team that looks puzzled and lacking intensity. A team that exudes little confidence in clutch situations and at crunch time in the schedule. It goes on and on and on……………
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Just like Jim Leyland

It was hard to fathom how a team could go 32-13 (71.1%) at home and 16-25 (39%) on the road and be half a game behind at the break.
Post break they are 6-11 (35.3%) at home and 1-11 (8.3%) on the road.
At least they are consistent with the roughly 30% differential between home and away.
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Whilst the media is supporting JL, there is next to no chance SOC gets the boot for 2011.
Maybe some good old fashioned people power that spreads across the Tig blog sites might help, at least being theraspeutic if nothing else. Producing a top ten reasons for managerial change could be a start.
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Some more interesting stats on Damon. Leading off innings, he is hitting .385/.481/.523 from 65 AB’s. For late and close games, he is hitting .352/.485/.574 from 54 AB’s.
This Blog gave up crying out for JD to be leadof where he has been used only 5 occasions.
JL’s misuse of Sheff, Huff and now Damon would have to be close to the top of the list, closely followed by placing called up rookies at 3 in the lineup.

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