Tigers shuffle batting order for weekend

Jim Leyland said mainly trying to “change things up” and try to get something going by switching up his batting order. The way they’ve been hitting lately, he figures, it’s worth trying something.

The revamped order switches up slumping rookie Brennan Boesch from fifth to second. Instead of trying to protect Miguel Cabrera in the lineup, Boesch will be trying to set the table for him. Jhonny Peralta moves up from sixth to fifth. Johnny Damon moves from third to sixth where he hasn’t hit in the order since 1999. Ryan Raburn slots into the third spot.
TIGERS
  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Boesch, RF
  3. Raburn, LF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Peralta, SS
  6. Damon, DH
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Avila, C
  9. Rhymes, 2B
P: Justin Verlander
ANGELS
  1. Bobby Abreu, LF
  2. Erick Aybar, SS
  3. Alberto Callaspo, 3B
  4. Torii Hunter, RF
  5. Hideki Matsui, DH
  6. Maicer Izturis, 2B
  7. Howie Kendrick, 1B
  8. Bobby Wilson, C
  9. Peter Bourjos, CF
P: Jered Weaver
ANGELS

27 Comments

OMG, Rod just said Brennan isn’t seeing the ball right now. I’ve been saying that for weeks and basically told to shut-up. Honestly, I think this is a punishment to Johnny Damon for getting his name in the news on trying to help the kid. I hope it works, but I would have let him work things out in Toledo weeks ago. We’ll see.

It’s sad that the game is over in the 2nd, but it is. We can’t score 5 runs, and it’s doubtful the Angels are done hitting.
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The month of July was brutal, and August is looking to be worse.

Back to the ol’ Tony LaRussa power in the 2-hole theory. Drop Damon, with his .170-whatever RISP average, to a run producing spot. Oooookay.
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–Rich

Holy smoke. Now that IS different.

I see comments all out of order tonigt. Rich, will you read my post under the Chadd, Rojas, Pleis promoted story. It’s regarding Al Avila. Wondering if you had heard anything about it.

Man–looks like we lost this one already in the very 1st inning!
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JV throws a very poor 0-2 pitch and bang we’re down. BTW-the other guys were hitting him hard too.
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Tiger hitters (I use the word loosely) come up and 3 straight lily-livered strike-outs.
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The Angels must have been drooling at the prospect of going to Detroit to play us after being humiliated by the 2nd worse team in baseball.

Changed the line-up? Leyland forgot to change the way Verlander usually pitches himself into a hole in the very first inning.

Oh, my. I was hoping for a better game tonight. Now 4-0. Against Weaver that may be insurmountable the way the Tigers have not been hitting. Another wasted evening?

Pretty disgusting. 1st & 2nd an no out and Damon looks like a gate with a only a rusty top hinge.
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I hope to the heavens that he is out of the batting advice business after Boesch’s and his performance today.
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My comment about laughing stock does not seem entirely out of place. This is one woefully awful team right now.
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Now AJ is going into full on strikeout mode again. There is nobdy in this lineup that is exciting right now—nobody.

I am so excited that Leyland will be back next year. Can’t wait for 2012.

Leyland back next year? Is that 100% for sure? I just can’t believe it. That could make me not subscribe to MLB.TV again. As much as I have folowed the Tigers for almost 60 years, I am really discouraged with the way he manages.

I wonder if there are stats on 2 strike hits? Be interesting to see the ratio of how many we have given up as opposed to how many we hit.

No luck for Peralta! Almost had 2 doubles that AB

A week of Tig baseball I was thankfull to miss going by the results and comments. Only topped with finding out JL is going around next year.
DD should get no credit for acquiring Miggs with the idea purely Mr I’s, blown a few months later by DD giving Willis the 3 year extension.
2010 is still going to end up being a three horse race, unfortunately being for last place.

Well just got back from that very exciting 4 hit game the Tigers had. So much fun I don’t even know how to handle it.
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Although I have to say that it was probably worth $10 to see Tori Hunter have his hissy fit. Dude you had a walk and a two run bomb – you act like you were picked on all night. Although looking at the replay when I got home maybe one of the pitches was close but the other two were definate strikes you little baby. Just goes to show you how classy Armando was when Joyce screwed him over and the reaction that Tori Hunter gave over a strikeout.

Same results, but that was at least an entertaining game. The lack of that was one of my chief complaints two nights ago. The Angels had something to do with that, but whatever it takes.
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I don’t think hitting Boesch second had anything to do with his offense tonight, but it may not be a coincidence that he did his hitting with no one on base. In the end, you really don’t want to use this lineup. Damon is having a horrible year with RISP and Boesch can always go down to sixth or seventh. It’s too late to send Brennan down to Toledo because it appears he’d be all by himself there. I can see him now, like that little kid in the commercial, alone on the diamond, tossing up the ball and announcing “I’m the greatest hitter in the world!” The rest of the Mud Hens are up here.
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I still think Damon should lead off.
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When Guillen returns, Rhymes goes down? What do we do with Frazier? He’s in way over his head, like his swings. Meanwhile, Santiago is relegated to the bench after the year he’s had?
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Mr. Ilitch did indeed say that JL is his guy for next year. Of course, that may be the Vote of Confidence that usually results in the Kiss of Death.
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–Rich

One other thing – Verlander has got to figure out his first few innings blues. He is shooting himself in the foot, this team has no fire power offensively and more often than not lately the 3rd inning to settle down is just TOOOOOO LATE. I have said it before he isn’t an ace yet – aces can shut other teams down and he hasn’t done much of that at all lately. The only way we are going to win games is if they are very low scoring 2-1 or 3-2. Can’t give up four in the first few and expect to get wins anymore.
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The mlb tv guys are all over Tori’s fit. Can’t blame him. The first pitch was a ball and he knew it. The second pitch was a strike and he knew it. The third pitch was a ball and he knew it. And, that’s what it was……ball, strike, ball. I’m hoping the player’s will demand technology.
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I hate complaining, but find myself doing so more and more. Just the thought of Leland managing this team for another year will tune me out. I can’t stand him.

So, we find out that it is, in the end, Mike Illitch that is responsible for this mess. He says he wants to be like the Yankees and Red Sox, but wants to avoid long-term contracts and stay flexible? What?
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The Red Sox fired Grady Little a few years ago when he wasn’t totally unsiccessful as a manager, but when it became obvious that he wouldn’t WIN. That netted them Terry Francona. The Yankees essentially axed Joe Torre after he had not won a Worls Series in almost 10 years despite making the playoffs every year. 2 years later, they are World Champs.
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The fact that Illitch isn’t even going to see how the rest of the year goes before telling the GM and manager they will be back is ridiculous. If the Tigers continue at the rate they have been playing since the All-Star break, they will finish with over 90 losses. After being in first place almost right before the break. So, so disappointing. It’s William Clay Ford and Matt Millen all over again.

For anyone interested here’s the article about DD and Leyland given the thumbs up for next year:

Tigers manager, GM back next season

Associated Press

DETROIT — Detroit Tigers owner Mike Ilitch says manager Jim Leyland and general manager Dave Dombrowski will return next season.

Ilitch told reporters Friday following a news conference introducing new Detroit Red Wings player Mike Modano. Ilitch also owns the hockey team.

The owner says he’s “staying with Dave” and “staying with our manager.”

Heading into Friday night’s home game against the Los Angeles Angels, the Tigers were 5-17 since the All-Star break and 53-55 overall.

Despite the disappointing second half so far, Ilitch says he believes the foundation is in place for the team to become a consistent playoff contender beginning next season.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press

My montra this year “I hate Umpires”. However pup I disagree – I think that Tori Hunter’s AB maybe the first one was a ball (maybe it was close) the second and third were strikes. Regardless – he made a fool out of himself and majorily overacted.

Hi all. Haven’t blogged in some time but I still continue to read this blog every day and follow what has become all too common for us Tiger fans, the “Second Half Collapse”. It struck a nerve with me the other night watching the Tigs and Chicago and I’m kind of surprised no one commented on it. I’m referring to when an ESPN camera panned down to the Tiger dugout in the eighth inning while our boys where down 4-1. Verlander was apparently relating something humorous to Bonderman and a few others on the bench who were seen chuckling. I guess they were able to find some humor in what was turning out to be just another one in the L column. I guess we as fans shouldn’t take this team and it’s wins and losses so seriously if the players don’t. I feel bad for fans like Sklant who obviously support the Tigers with both time and money. I am sure there are many others who do the same. The Tigers are lucky to have such a committed fan base. I just couldn’t picture Kaline, Gibby, or Tram sitting in the dugout laughing during another loss.

–Ed

I do remember some laughing the game Bonderman was taken out. However, that game they won. I also remember thinking at the time that Bondo was ticked at being taken out and someho I thought he and JV might have been kinda making fun of the skipper.
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To be laughing in a game you are losing is a whole other story. I agree with that. Sure you could be ina game where you are losing and something circumstantially funny comes up but cracking jokes on the bench when your season is collapsing would be indicative af a real problem.
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I wouldn’t sit Boesch after yesterday. He certainly can hit LHP. He may need to keep swinging at this time.
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I certainly wouldn’t not bat him 2nd—3rd yes.
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All this talk about injuries. The fact is the only key injury was Ordonez. Getting Inge and Guillen back does not make this a contending team. Neither one has helped with the long ball or the RBIs. Guillen’s play at 2nd is mediocre at best.
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I’ve said this before, If I am Ramon Santiago, I am **********. To play Worth and Rhymes ahead of him regularly is just simply not right.
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Ramon has been one of the better players on this club this year. I agree he is not the ideal middle infielder for the future, but under the circumstances, this year, he should have been playing regularly all along.
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Raburn has looked much improved in LF lately. I’m surprised.
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Peralta has looked good at short. I’m surprised.
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Avila has to start looking more like hunter at the plate and not the prey. I really like Alex and I am pulling for him to get over the hump and find the confidence level that could make him an absolute treasure to have behind the plate.
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They should have traded Damon before the deadline. I know all rhetoric about his character and all that jazz, but the fact is he has not produced as hoped or expected.
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Tigers have a mini dilemma at 2B next year. Rhymes can play. More importantly for the Tigers, he can run and bunt. Sizemore fits better at 2B than 3B. I hope they don’t have the “brilliant” idea of making him a 3rd sacker. I don’t think he has the arm for it..
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Best guy I have ever seen at 3B for the Tigers? Aurelio Rodriguez—-hands down.
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Did anyone catch the name of the mystery man that DD was trying to give himself credit for ALMOST getting in the alleged blockbuster trade? Hanley Ramirez’ name was mentioned.
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I’d settle for Troy Tulowitski.
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I guess we will see Ramon, Laird and Frazier today. If JL plays Rhymes ahead of Ramon today he should be mobbed.

Where is Miguel Cabrera?
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We need a switch-hitting, gold glove shortstop, who can hit .280 and steal 35+ bases.
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Do we keep Peralta? I like the guy but he would have to play 3rd for me.
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I still think Raburn could play 3rd in the bigs.
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I’d rather have Zimmerman though!!!
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Porcello has to find himself again–this year.
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Mike Illitch ruined my day yesterday.
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Keeping Leyland around will make me healthier though as I am boycotting Lil’ Caesars Pizza till he’s gone.
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I wonder how Al Kaline would have been as a manager?
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Boston is looking for a LHB 1B. How about Jason “Rooftop” Thompson???
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I think I’d rather see more laughing than less. After Boesch hit his homer, everyone came over for the obligatory high five then returned to their places. Boesch sits down and no one comes over to talk to him, ask what he hit, joke with him, nothing. I see that happen in other dugouts all the time, but not ours. These guys are pressing and not enjoying themselves and you can’t win that way. It’s an all pervasive atmosphere.
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I can understand Mr. Ilitch wanting DD back. Running a baseball operation is a huge job and there’s much more to it than current wins and losses. Much more. Wanting “the manager” (didn’t mention his name) back is quite another. We’ve heard these votes of confidence before, however, and I don’t take much stock in them. I think this is DD’s call anyway. We’ll see.
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I’ll go out on a limb. If Leyland can bring this club home at or above .500, I will lay off him forever. I mean forever. That would require 28-25 and his only injured player will be Ordonez. There would only be the two rookies starting. This isn’t too much to ask.
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I don’t think he can do it.
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–Rich

Ya, you’re right, Rich. Maybe we really don’t need a new manager,then. All we really need is a Max Patkin on the bench to loosen these guys up!

–Ed

90% of the people I speak with at work and there are hundreds of them sporting Detroit gear, want JL gone.

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