Tigers make minor trade, trade Ramirez

The Tigers’ big activity at the nonwaiver trade deadline was about as minor as they could get. Detroit traded outfielder Wilkin Ramirez to Atlanta for a player to be named later or cash.

The Tigers must choose the player or the cash by Nov. 20.

You may remember that the Tigers designated Ramirez for assignment on Wednesday to make room for Jhonny Peralta on the 40-man roster. Detroit had 10 days to try to trade him, but they got it done in three.

Thus, Ramirez went from the starting lineup in the Futures Game to the waiver wire to a new organization in less than three weeks. He entered Saturday with a .230 average between Triple-A Toledo and Double-A Erie, homering 19 times with 56 RBIs. He also has struck out 144 times in 400 plate appearances.

For all the ups and downs of Ramirez’s career over seven minor-league seasons, he’s still just 24 years old. A change of scenery could do him some good.

16 Comments

I predicted earlier this year that Wilkin Ramirez would never make it. I wish we could have gotten something for him, but other teams could scout him just as well as I could. Let’s hope Wells doesn’t go the same way.

I am feeling for Max. We will be lucky to finish the 7th with the lead.

Boy does Perry have a lot to learn yet.
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Brad Thomas is a waste of space in clutch situations. I swear he spots every LHB he faces with a 2-0 count.
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JL’s bonehead move yesterday bringing valverde in in the 8th is sure rearing it’s ugly head today. And probably tomorrow too. That was as dudus a move as you can make.
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Kelly, as much as I like him, is not gonna be an offensive contributor.
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With the litany of callups this year they screwed up big time by not calling Ramirez up. If they don’t like him maybe he catches rookie fire long enough to package him up in deal.
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People can knock Avila (and perhaps he should be knoced) but the cat is hitting 25 or 30 points HIGHER than our regular catcher!.
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I was hoping they would pawn Laird off on someone. Other GMs must be too smart.
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8th inning. What does JL do? Leave Perry in? If he does and he gets in trouble I guarantee he will leave him in too long.
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Bonine? Please no.
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Gotta save Coke for the 9th.
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Weinhardt is out today. So I guess they could use Gonzalez. Bonderman?
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What a bush league move by Leyland yesterday. I can hardly believe it still.

Glad to see the pitchers have left Youk a few fond memories of the Tigs.

Not sure why our hittes are always so eager to swing at the 1st pitch when late in the game like this.
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Fingers crossed for Coke. I’m pretty sure he will be called upon for the 9th.
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Perry may have learned something after all.. He did pretty well after the HBP.
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Heads up play by Rhymes. So far he is fun to watch.
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Will AJ hit another dinger this year?
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Top of the lineup will have to be dealt with.

Typical.
.JL absolute butcher job of handling his relief staff.
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Tigers uncanny inability to win games on National TV.
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No Valverde. Overused Perry.
Defense choked (Santiago should have been given an error).
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Easy 1-2-3 innings in the 8th an 9th to allow the Sox to keep pressure on the pitching and the momentum.
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This was grotesque. The pity is that just about every knowledgeable fan here probably felt tlike they were going to blow this game.
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I’ve criticized Coke before for being given too much credit.
I do feel he is over-rated. Sure looked it today.
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Terribly managed game. And you can bet these guys will be snake-bit tomorrow. I would not have intentionally walked Youkilis. I know Youkilis is very dangerous but you get him out and let a run in then face Ortiz. But to put the winning run on—that’s leyland for you.
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I hold him personally responsible for runinging today and almost ruining yesterday.
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They probably should sit Boesch. This is too big a stage for him right here and right now. I hate to say it but it probably is the right thing to do.
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DD couldn’t come up with anything creative at the deadline. JL couldn’t doesn’t have a creative bone in his body.
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I’m even getting sick of Knapp. Let’s get some people in here who aren’t such “losers” and defeatists. Do yous see the body langueage on these guys (coaching) in the dugout.? They have no faith in their team and deservedly so as they have failed them and created the mosnter they coach.

Someone lend JL ” The Book”: you do not put the winning run on base

So JL again does the splits on McDonald. I could just imagine the number of pitches thrown by Perry last night on top of his 34 already thrown before going out to start the 9th.
No way you would ever do it to your closer, so why do it to someone you expect to finish a game.
Two nights in a row JL has shown no confidence in Coke and it no doubt played a part in the outcome.

I didn’t see the game because of the usual blackout, so my comments have to be limited. The thing with the blackout is, I’m not going to watch the Braves. One would think that MLB would rather have me watching a Tigers stream on the computer than nothing at all.
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After looking over the boxscore and reading the recap, it’s obvious that this is one of those many times that Leyland loses us a game by his actions leading up to the game. It’s impossible to quantify how often this happens. I just know it’s a lot. How about this one for the Manager’s Rule Book? If you bring your closer in to get work with a large lead, limit him to 15 pitches or whatever and remove him. That means you have another guy to finish up before things get out of hand. If Perry can’t be trusted to do that, why is he here? Or better yet, don’t get your closer into that “needs work” situation in the first place. We played all those close games with the Rays while our best reliever watched all four days. How does that make sense?
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I saw no point in making any deadline deals after the manager’s performance Friday night. Save the payroll till he’s gone. Poor ol’ Jim, the game just speeds up on him up here. Game management should be the easy part of the job.
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–Rich

A question hopefully Jason can answer, or one my fellow Tigers fans. Who selects players for the Futures Game? The Tigers put Wilkin in it this year and then pretty much dump him for a bag of baseballs 3 weeks later. I see Arizona did the same thing with their representative to the Future’s Game (in the Snyder deal with Pittsburgh). I used to think the Future’s Game was the showcase of the top prospects. What do clubs think of the Futures Game?

If JV has the lead in the coming game, will JL be game to try and relieve him? Has there ever been a player revolt on the mound?
With no VV, Coke or Perry, my guess is he will go 130-140 and hopefully complete it.
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Away for a week playing golf so will miss the coming Chisox games.

I’d pay to see Porcello throw against Youkilis again!
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Boesch would benefit from playing a little at Toledo again. (Unless he tears up Bucholz!)
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I would give the Tigers one more series to evaluate whether they can stay in contention. Obviously they really almost out of it already. (Under the circumstances)
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If they can shock the Chisox then things change but if they succumb then here’s what I’d do:
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Let Rhymes play.
Trade Damon (he’d have to clear waivers)
Don’t bring Guillen back
Let Bonderman, Bonine, Thomas go.
Play Avila full-time or ship him off to Toledo to play full time.
Let Worth play short
Give Raburn a chance to play somehwere else–he deserves a legitimate opportunity
Clean house with Leyland and his staff. I’ve changed my mind–Knapp too.
Make Strieby, Frazier and Wells play winter ball. If they don’t, they don’t play here.
They would like to see Sizemore play 3B–does he have the arm? What is the plan for Peralta. Peralta could DH and play infield, utility role.
Get a dominant LHP starter who is under 32
Keep looking for another closer. Valverde (as many closers do) may not be able to repeat his excellence.
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The most important thing IMO–is to get rid of Leyland. He has stifled the team, insulted the fans, lost inumerable amount of games with his obstinancy, and has allosed the game to pass him by.

I am so very, very irritated with Jim Leyland. And the same with Dombrowski for not recognizing and remedying the underlying problem with this team. We all knew this game would be blown. We all know Brad Thomas is not a big-league pitcher. We all know Perry should NOT have been left in to start the 9th. We all know Youk should not have been walked as the winning run, precisely because of what happened. We all know Valverde should have been available because no manager in their right mind would bring in their closer in the EIGTH inning of a 6-1 game and then let him make 60 pitches when he obviously did not have it and there were two games left in a series against a good club, jeopardizing the player, the team and the finances of the team.
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I read that the Tigers were very close to acquiring Manny Ramirez. Who would they have had to give up to get him? I wouldn’t have minded seeing him here if we didn’t have to mortgage the future, but I am guessing we would’ve, or else the deal would have gotten done.
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Golden opportunity to pick up a game against the White Sox today wasted. Not that it likely matters. We will need to win out against the White Sox all 14 or whatever games at this point…

Ditto to Rich and clear. I’m still obsessing about the first game. No one, and I mean no one, in their right mind would have brought Valverde in the 8th and then left him in there for 61 pitches.

Rich, sounds like you didn’t get a chance to watch the game . Actually the run they scored off of Scherzer was attributable to MCab and one of his famous forays into the 2B man’s position again. I’m not sure if he does this instinctively or delieberately but when he abandons his post he renders his 2B man as useless as he is on the play—- and all the pressure is put on the pitcher.
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The difficult thing about this particular play is that Cab often fields these ballspretty close to the base path and though he often makes the play, the angle on the throw to the pitcher is often perpendicular or even acute. Because the pitcher is running to the bag he has an impossible task of turning sideways, looking away from where he is running, catching the ball behind him and then finding the base.
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In other words:
“Miggy, it’s a lot easier tohold your position and let your 2nd baseman field those balls!
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This play gave Boston life and led to them getting back into the game. Miggy’s D has been erratic lately.
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There’s a fine line for a 1st sacker to know on those plays (though it seems preety obvious on some of them to me that they should have been left). Perhaps we can outfit Miggy with an electronic dog collar?
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(I too remember the perfect game).
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Scherzer may have been a little late but he was just “giving it” to get over to cover. It was a shame to see an easy out lead to his departure, his shutout and and eventual loss.
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Well Friday night and keeping VV in that long certianly came back to bite the Tigers in the but last night.
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However I will have to disagree with a few things, Coke is not a bad pitcher but had been used heavily the last four days, because there is nobody else. Bonine has been pretty good in the pen had a sub 3 ERA until he started the other day, so I think that the criticism of his isn’t excactly warranted. Kelly had to play because from what I heard Raburn was gone at a funeral and Damon of course is hurt. (why wouldn’t he be??? everyone else is).
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Max did another great job and has nothing to show for it. Oh well, I think that we are going to be seeing a lot of this because we have another way too long game that is going to happen today, because Red Soxs seem to thrive on playing the longest games in baseball, it is ridiculous that it is allowed to continue, another thing that baseball should be ashamed about. Day off tomorrow and then another stinking double header and it is going to get hot back here in the D. Today there is basically nobody available in the pen Bondo, Weinhardt and Thomas is my guess, maybe Bonine but does he have to pitch part of the double header again??
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Oh well I try to tell myself it is just baseball.

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