Saturday: Magglio still out

Tigers head athletic trainer Kevin Rand reports more improvement for Magglio Ordonez, but still not enough to get him back in the lineup. He was out on the field for batting practice today, which was a good sign. With a day game Sunday and an off-day Monday, though, it would not be a surprise if manager Jim Leyland decided to give Ordonez the next couple days to be safe and bring him back Tuesday against Washington.

Ryan Raburn is back in left field and batting third today with the left-handed Paul Maholm on the mound.

TIGERS

  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, DH
  3. Raburn, LF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Boesch, RF
  6. Guillen, 2B
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Laird, C
  9. Worth, SS

P: Jeremy Bonderman

PIRATES

  1. Jose Tabata, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, DH
  5. Ryan Doumit, 1B
  6. Ryan Church, RF
  7. Andy LaRoche, 3B
  8. Ronny Cedeno, SS
  9. Jason Jaramillo, C

P: Paul Maholm

154 Comments

An ugly comparison for bases loaded. Not counting Posada’s homer today, NYY from 78 AB’s are .423/.490, 94 runs with 11 BB’s and only 12 SO’s.
The Tigs from 50 AB’s are .240/.305, 43 runs scored with 4 BB’s and 13 SO’s.
Difficult to create that ‘destiny’ feel overnight, though the Rays have done a pretty good job the past few seasons with a dynamic yet wise manager.
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I hadn’t bothered to look up tonights roster earlier as I knew it would’t contain any surprises. No need for any energy with it is what it is Jim leading the show.

Thanks Dave. I know one thing. When the othr team gets a man on 3rd and less than 2 out I feel they are gong to score. When we do I feel it is more than likey we won’t.
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We have some guys who are just awful with it. Inge, Laird, Damon, Raburn. Not sure what AJs numbers are.
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Speaking of AJ, so many ground balls right at the shortstop. Step up at the plate and maybe he hits them thru the middle more.

You just knew after Avila had 3 hits last nite he would sit tonite.

Well that was pathetic. 1 run out of that situation. Guillen did not need to be so far off of 2nd on a that high drive-then he tried to make up for it by forcing the tplay at 3rd. Yes, he looked like he was safe but the ball beat him there. That should never have happened.
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Bad baseball—just like Guillen AGAIN not getting over to 1st base to do his JOB. He can’t reinvent baseball to suit his physical limitations. He had to provide the must have plays with consistency.
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AJ grounds out once again to short.
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Gotta get MCab’s head back into the game. He seems distracted.

Cabby looks like he’s puzzled that he can’t hit right now. I’m puzzled myself.

Austin Jackson needs to get it going with the bat.

I wish we still had Edwin Jackson.

Agree Pup – a dumb move involving the snake heads when we could have taken Ian Kennedy, AJax and Coke for Curtis which would have been the steal of the century.
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Also not wrong Dan about men on 3rd where we are 0.204/.324 for 28th of 30 MLB. For men on 3B & 2B, we maintain consistency with .204/.323 for 25th of 30. Come on Carlos!!

Geez, 15 stranded now after 5 innings. Ugly frustrating stuff.

Well we’ve had lot’s of runners at 3rd today!
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Carlos is not having one of his better days.
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Thrown at at 3d base-running. Hit into bases loaded DP agianst a tiring pitcher and failed to cover 1st base properly on defense.. He’s left a lot of ducks out there tonight.
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Here we go again, can’t do squat against whoever the other team starts and don’t provide run support for your own starter.

We had no chance of winning this game without help. Ugly all round.
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Inge since 29 May has lifted from .215 to .253 hitting 18 from 45 (.40). At least one of the established guys is coming around, and maybe even Damon although his last RBI was on 23 May.
Boy have we looked lame without Maggs with Miggs leading the way.

why not let bonderman come out for the 8th,it was his game to win or lose ,another ******* call by leyland

Yep 91 pitches and a blown save later. Bondo had better been spent as it just shows no confidence.
This game has been torture – at least Valverde brings some levity to the situation although get the feeling the knife has yet to be plunged.

Come on now, it’s not over yet.

That was an awful K by Boesch.

No knife tonight. Thank you, Carlos.

I sure felt its point during Cokes 3 outs!!

Did Rod Allen call that one or what. It was almost like there was a tape delay and he already knew what happened by the time he had announce it.
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Thankful for the win – thankful the Twins lost.
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Now regarding Bondo – I hate to disagree, but I don’t think Bondo should of gone back out in the eighth. He sat there for a while and I think he would of blown it worse, just my opinion. But the poor guy can’t buy a win. He either gets no run support or it gets blown on his. He deserved a better fate.
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Really poor hitting with runners in scoring position, but we all know that, IT WAS INFURIATING. Bondo shouldn’t have even been in a position to have to lose that game we probably should of had at least 4 more runs AT LEAST.
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GO TIGERS

Oh ps. Laird even though he only had one hit tonight he hit the ball hard and wasn’t rewarded as Rod Allen would say. He must be getting scared with Avila heating up. And if that is what it takes a little competition between the two – well better for the Tigers and us.

I found it to be an interesting game, but I usually find close low scoring games interesting. I think my expectations have lowered which allows more enjoyment of watching a ballgame.
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I agree with GK on Bonderman. After he waited around so long during the bottom of the 7th, I would have pulled him too. Zumaya only gave up the one real hit and the rest was that Tabata guy running wild and a ground single through a drawn in infield. I again agreed with JL (a new record!) when he brought Valverde on in the 9th. He should have done that last time the situation came up.
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I think Jackson demonstrated that he can steal bases and he’s now what, 9 for 10? How about turning him loose, Jim? Who knows, he may even start hitting better if he’s allowed to run more.
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Bonderman has pitched very well for us. I’m still surprised that people wanted him gone over the winter. He’s always pitched pretty well when healthy. It’s fortunate that Pittsburgh was forced to play a catcher, Doumit, at firstbase. That was the break we needed.
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It wasn’t difficult for Rod to call one for Carlos on a 2-0 count with Hanrahan on the mound, but I’ll tip my cap anyway. :-)
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You’ll have to admit, Laird did some hitting tonight. All of his hits and near hits were to the opposite field. Did you just discover that, Gerald? Keep that up. That was about the quickest release on that caught stealing I’ve ever seen a catcher make. If the dude could even hit .240……………
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Guillen needs to position himself properly at secondbase. I don’t care what he finds comfortable. This is a guy who insisted on standing in the baseline while playing firstbase until they had to move him out of the position. Don’t be so stubborn, Carlos. And nice walkoff homer.
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I think Raburn should be sent down or traded. If DD did that, JL wouldn’t be able to force that issue anymore. Ryan isn’t needed in the infield and he’s certainly no outfielder. Kelly is a smarter hitter.
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Bottom line, 3 back in the loss column after all the various disasters we’ve brought upon ourselves.
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–Rich

We should be really glad that Carlos came back after another injury and continues to hit the ball. I keep thinking that one of these times he won’t be able to make that come back
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MCab is definitely out of sorts. For him to be swinging the bat that poorly in those situataions is unusual and also very troubling if it continues. Something doesn’t ‘feel” right with him right now.
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I was pretty worried when Coke was brought in too. As I’ve said before, I just don’t have a high confidence level with him. He’s Ok but he’s certianly not all the time.
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Zumaya and his fastball. Sure wish he would not have to throw it in non-fastball counts as well! Or at least get some movement on it.
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Bonderman is amazing. No way should a guy coming off that surgery, with reduced velocity and able to throw only 2 pitches, can have the kinds of games he has thrown. He’s been a big surprise for me.
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Yes Inge has been putting some hits on the board. Some RBI would be nice too.
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Fella, you don’t seem to understand this place. Yes it is the internet, but you can’t call out other people here. People are negative, but it is because they love the tigers. Dave and Rich have been here for about 6 years–Dave is always negative, but he’s never abusive, and never attacks other people. That’s the kind of place this is. It has been a pleasure to read the post over the past years. Give these old coots a break. The reason most of then have so much against Jl is that they are in the same age bracket. And, oh yeah, they are pretty smart about baseball, too.

I for one have no job. It’s not because I have been an unfortunate. Not one of those many people across the continent and especially in the Detroit area, that were hammered by the Wall St. meltdown. No I have been rewarded with “retirement”. Richly deserved after seeing my Tigers through 50 years of history.
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As an old coot, I can look back at those young “whippersnappers” whose idea of a baseball game is how much beer you can guzzle.
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The Blog is a place where “fans” can go to comiserate about their team when they can’t make it to Lindell’s, Nemo’s or even The Old Shillelagh.
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It’s a gift to have an opinion, to express an opinion and to respect an opinion.
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Not a whole lot of that has anything to do with being “unemployed”. That’s my opinion.
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The disgusting hatred toward the unemployed is appalling. That being said, we don’t come here to talk politics. Most of us are old enough to know we can’t solve all the world’s problems and watching our Tigers is a great distraction, even if only for a few hours.
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I’m retired too but work pt. Won’t be able to catch the game this afternoon so……..GO TIGERS!!!!!

I’m not retired yet, but there are days I wish I was on unemployment. :-)
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I’ve been a hardcore Tigers fan for 50 years also and have lived through the good and bad seasons. I also study military history, was in a war, was once a professional musician, and have in fact managed and played baseball.
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Since someone wanted to make personal comments, at least now you know something about me. If any of my comments, both positive and negative, are in error, I’d be happy to discuss them. That’s why I’m here, to offer and gather opinions.
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–Rich

I rarely comment on this blog although I read it every day. I’ve only been a Tigers fan since moving to Michigan about 6 years ago. I too, sometimes don’t like reading the negative comments but I certainly understand why the blogger’s feel the way they do about this team, sometimes I want to scream at the players and manager as well :) What really bothers me is the need to make comments personal, regarding employment status, age, etc. I’ve gathered from reading this blog that a lot of the bloggers have been Tiger fans for 50 plus years which in my humble opinion makes them experts on this team and pretty much on the game of baseball. I’m a late bloomer to the Tiger fanwagon but I love this team and appreciate the insight that all of you “old timers” bring. And for a smidge of personal info, I’m employed, born in the sixties and a woman to boot.

Go Tigers and Go all you lifelong Tiger fans!!

Like Rich while not unemployed there are days here and there I wish I was. (No offense who are unemployed or underemployed here) But I feel like I deal with tools like Zelic everyday. I have not been watching the Tigers since the sixties I am not that old YET, but I do invest a lot of time and money in this team and support them unconditionally. But as a person who probably has missed only 10-15 games in the last 5 years and a person who spends their money on them by purchasing season tickets, I have a right to my opinion and voice my pleasure and disgust at times with this team. I am not going pretend like they can do no wrong, because in my opinion stranding 8 billion runners on base in scoring position over the last few weeks is not okay. My guess is they would tell you it is not okay and I have a right to my opinion right or wrong.
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GK

I think it’s great the bloggers here have everyone’s back. I love this blog because I can get a bit too emotional when it comes to the Tigers and even my husband needs to stop talking baseball with me to keep his own sanity. :) Even when I’m not posting regularly, I’m always reading, and it’s a comfort to know others are as passionate as I am.
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I occassionally pop onto other teams’ blogs and I have to say this is the best. Thanks to Jason and to the people here.
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Let’s finish the sweep today and get ready for Washington.
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I hope Cabby’s not drinking again.
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Peace out.

Please somone tell me that Carlos isn’t hurt and why he isn’t in the lineup today????

Interesting lineup today. Maggs out again. With a day off tomorrow I think it is probably a good idea to give him another day off. I do wonder what the rule is for declaring a 15 day DL assignment. I know they can be retroactive to the day of the injury but do you have a limited amount of time to make that designation? If the concern for Magglio’s oblique doesn’t diminish in the next 2 days, why not put him on the DL retroactive to June 7? There are 3 RHB OFers down there that could maybe help a little to get through to the June 22nd.
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JL has awakened from his slumber and made a creative move by dropping Damon to the 3rd spot (instead of just “plugging in” Kelly. I actually like this move today. Santiago batting 2nd gives even Leyland a guy who he can bunt with.
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Those hustle plays by Tabata against us yesterday were maddening but a a good example of how you can still be unpredictable in this game of baseball, and profit from it. He almost single-handedly stole that game away from us. It was a treat to see that kind of play even if it was perpetrated by the enemy.
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I have a good feeling about Kelly today.
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Yes, Laird hs to be given some credit for standing in there and getting some much better swings. I thought he was pretty much done, but he showed he has not bought into that idea at all.
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One thing I really liked seeing yesterday was GMan in the dugout, gleefully patting Bondo on the head after Boesch reached on the 2-base error and MCab scored the go ahead. Nice to see that genuine team spirit. I remember Polanco as being the that kind of guy over the years. Somebody who was as happy for the other guy as he was at the game situation.

Just to continue the introduction theme, I am a 29-year old law student at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport, FL. I live in Clearwater and try to see at least 3 or 4 Lakeland Flying Tigers games each summer, as well as a game or two when the Tiger come to Tampa. My first Tiger memories are watching Doyle Alexander turn into Cy Young upon his acquisition from the Braves. I spent my youth memorizing Sporting News Baseball Registers and the Baseball Encyclopedia.
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Last year I posted on here as drummerderr, as I have also been a percussionist in several local bands and orchestras through the years. Last year I kept posting that, despite all of our complaints, we were still in first place. It almost bore out…I used clearwatertigersfan on a different part of the website and did not realize it would change the handle here, and decided to just leave it. I am more pessimistic this year, but am happy that the Tigers are actually in the hunt, because I thought they might be buried by this point after losing Granderson, Polanco and Edwin Jackson.
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Thanks everyone for contributing to this blog…when I can’t catch the game on MLB.TV, I come to the blog first thing when I get home, before I even look at the box score.

Anybody hear what happened to Action Jackson/

Low back spasm , day to day. Gameday and twitter tigers official

Does Avila bunt? A successful bunt there would have led to a run on Kelly’s grounder.

They have no one in the bench now. After the extrainn Laird is NA,Ordoez and Jackson day to day and Guillen is resting. So in case of injury there is no one to come in. They need to do something . Someone must land dl before tuesday
Last night in the eight a bunt was due and they went into 10 inn, so JL wont do it in the second

Thanks VZ.
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Pretty lacklustre so far. Inge should have gobbled up that grounder that led to a run but GMan really could help himself out a lot by being able to throw better 2 strike pitches. The one to Jones was poor and the pitch before that was nibbling at the ousside corner. Far better off to throw a high hard one or a slider down and in.
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Starting pitcher woes continue. They really need to to find a way to touch up these guys at least a little bit just to relieve the pressure on their own starters.

Okay I will say it. This umpires strikezone is a piece of crap – it is uneven – it is onesides – it is bull****. Armando is not getting the same strikezone as the other guy. And he is giving me a headache and now I have had to shut my windows because I am yelling at the television.

Bottom of 6. Really is time to light this guy up. He doesn’t seem to be an overpowering pitcher nor crafty. We’ve seen him, now let’s hit him.

GK, I want to sit next to you when I go to Comerica. Where are your seats!

Section 331 – just off of homeplate 3rd base side upper deck. Nobody gets in my way and that is what I love. You are coming to town???
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Boy making another really bad pitcher look good. This is fun. I wonder if Zelic likes my attitude better now?? Its okay guys I know you are really grinding at bats out and don’t worry it will be okay:)) And umpire I don’t mind that your strike zone is a piece of crap – I know that you umpires really try hard to be fair and it is just my imagination that their is a different strikezone for the two pitchers. You like my friend from a few weeks ago will do better next time:))) All rainbows and sunshine!!

7thinning. It’s getting late. Need to to something now.

Nice Alex at least we wont get shutout.

I bet nobody gets in your way!
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GMan pitched a nice game. A recurring refrain, our starter deserved better.
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Sure hope we can get to the bullpen because the Karstens has found some kind of way to shut us down.
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Raburn is “on the clock”.

he can’t even get a bunt down. erghhhhh

No , he must be unable even to put his own shoes

And now, the seven millions man

Glad Cabrera showed up. Big win. Go Braves.

Bad Blog, bad Blog.

Blog was not working well.
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Carlos factored again. And Damon–starting to come around, And MCab, due, came up with a big hit in a big situation against a prety touch pitcher for him.
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Raburn is on the bubble. No hit/no field utility players don’t often last too long.

I was having problems with the blog too. Lets see if it works this time. My thoughts if it is okay with Mr/Mrs. Zelic.
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Made a bad pitcher look good again. Really glad they won and really glad they fought at the end. Does anybody find it weird that we have better luck against good pitchers than we do the bad/mediocre ones???
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Finally Cabrera comes through again. Hopefully this will get him on the right track again. Galarraga was great – that is 3 really good outings out of his last four. And again he deserves a better fate meaning a win (if he was only able to get that last batter) oh wait a minute he did except the nimrod umpire had a crap strikezone!!! Worth is an excellent infielder. And I hope that Jackson will be okay to go on Tuesday along with Guillen and Ordonez. That is the lineup I want to see.
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And Dan we had tickets in the lower bowl a few years ago right just to the outfield of the visitors dugout, and I swear I spent more time looking at peoples butts going up and down the aisle than seeing the game. So a few years ago we moved to the upper deck just the the 3rd baseside behind homeplate and because of were we are nobody is walking up and down aisle by me. I can actually see the whole game and the whole field. Not to mention the tickets are a lot less. If you come to town let me know.
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First off, GK, I know what you mean about the lower seating bowl. It’s too flat and I’ve complained on here before about Comerica’s bad sight lines. I like the upper deck better too. In fact, when I bought my playoff tickets for last October (!) I opted for upstairs seating, even though I knew I’d freeze. The ballpark is a pretty one, however. I like those behind the plate shots they’ve started showing on TV.
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In what may be a first, I was down with each of JL’s moves today. I liked having Raburn bunt there, but the dude has to get that bunt down. Ryan isn’t contributing much at all. I wondered about Avila taking a strike then bunting on 0-1 earlier. I’m not sure if that came from Alex or JL. I didn’t mind leaving Guillen on the bench when Jackson went down because you can pick your spot for Carlos that way. That REALLY worked out.
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Galarraga is in a nice groove right now, like the 2008 Mondo.
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While not much for stats, I’m really curious about any stats pertaining to our numbers against opposing starters. For instance, how many of those “quality starts” have we had thrown against us so far? It just seems like we’ve been unable to hit the starter like 90% of the time, and it’s becoming surreal. Why is this? Bad scouting report? Hitters not paying attention to scouting report? Hitters not watching video? Hitters watching too much video? As soon as the relief pitchers come in, the guys we didn’t know if we’d face or not, we start scoring runs. Weird. We’ve had some real good starts of our own that don’t result in a W for our starter.
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It was a good win considering the lineup we had to run out there today.
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3 Key players hobbled right now. They have to be careful not to rush things with AJ. Backs can be nagging injuries and they don’t need that.
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It will be interesting to see what happens with Magglio. I suspect he will be OK but will it be Tuesday or a week from Tuesday?
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The good thing about Carlos is tht if he is hobbled enough (and not too much), he could be slid into the DH role if needs be.
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Are we starting to see Damon coming around?
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We are fortunate to have both catchers hitting the ball better along with Inge.

Yes, the injuries are troubling. Magglio being out for almost a week and now Carlos with his calf or hamstring, probably both, reinjured already.

I am another Tiger fan for more than 50 years. I had to miss the Sat-Sun games due to my wife’s 50th high school reunion. Very nice to see that they won. The games were closer than I would like to see them. Some earlier run support would certainly help the starters. Is there any other team with so many starters that have won so few games even after quality starts? At least they don’t have to face the Washington Whiz Kid this week. I wonder if that will help?

Always miss the day games so have had a chuckle reading todays posts. Funny how protective we are of this Blog. Where I live, saying you follow baseball gets raised eyebrows. I love playing golf but also love following the Tigs and this Blog is a great forum to pursue my sporting passion. Putting up with a slow, clunky web engine is more than compensated with other Blog sites visited not coming close to having as considerate or informed rantings.
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I try to keep the negative comments aimed at management, specifically JL and to a lesser extent DD. And no I am not a union official relic of the 70’s having started and built my own company the past 10 years leaving the corporate ladder before turning 40.
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There would have to be a fair bit of banter hiding frustration amongst the pitchers with another reliever stealing a win – Coke and Thomas have a combined 8-0 record. Must have been a gut instinct call by JL using Thomas over Ni who is statistically much more the lefty specialist with his 1.13/6.10 ERA left/right splits and Thomas 5.00 lefty / 2.30 righty splits as a reliever. Ni against lefties has given up only one earned run and that was back in April. Ni last year was clearly a lefty specialist yet has pitched more innings this year against righties.
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Can’t get many stats against starting pitchers but our overall hitting against left starters is .274 /.342 (.265/.339 overall) and righties .268/.340 (.271/.340 overall) which pretty much confirms they hit enough but don’t string them together until late in the game.
RISP is poor at .238/.332 (13/14) and is the cause of nearly all player based frustration. Yet strangely the ultimate clutch stat of LICG is .285/.383 (5/14) which when you combine a good bullpen and an ace closer will get you to the line most of the time in close games.
For LICG, Carlos in the clutch is hitting 9 of 15 (.60) ad Avila a surprising 5 of 10.
A healthy Maggs and Carlos with Damon hitting are keys to lifting this team to being more than thereabouts.

Well, we did it, we beat a team that based on the numbers we should have beat. Saturday and Sunday were way too close for comfort, but our pitching was lights out this weekend. I was able to go on Saturday and was beyond thrilled when Carlos hit the walk off – he had lots to make up for in that game but he did it, he will always, always be my Tiger. I see he had calf problems, maybe that is why he looked like he was pulling a trailer trying to take 3rd on the hit by Laird. Rest up Carlos, they truly need to keep your bat in the lineup.

I agree with Bondo coming out when he did, we have great relievers that need to be used. I was concerned about Coke coming in but he proved me wrong yet again, and it was fun to watch Valverde pitch in person as well as Zoom. We sat in section 325 and the seats were great, I was concerned about being up so high, but you are right, you don’t have as much traffic up there and the view was great.

Glad to see Miguel woke up yesterday, he luckily only has short lived slumps. And Laird did hit the ball great on Saturday although I see Avila taking over more and more duties as his defense gets better and better.

Glad we don’t get to face the kid in Washington this week…

Wow, zelic really got everyone going. One comment, the correct way is “don’t have any jobs”. Anyway, we are smart about baseball. That is why we are on this blog. Why are you? We were at the game yesterday, 7th row by the Tigers dugout. Nice to get some good pictures and see the players close up. GK, the guys in front of us were saying the best seats were upper deck between home and first. A win is a win. We were all wondering what happened to Jackson after he made that catch in the 1st inning. I called the Miggy home run (yeah, he was due). His previous at bat he crushed one, just pulled it foul. Kid’s day, giving away posters, bikes, and the kids run the bases after the game. Detroit fans are the best. Statman Dave, keep up the good work, I enjoy the reading. Greg, are you on summer vacation? My wife is, but I have to go to work. Go Tigers! –Dave

Thanks Dave, GK and Tigergirl – really enjoy reading the ballpark experiences.

I’m looking forward to this week’s series with Washington. Nats announcers Bob Carpenter and Rob Dibble were talking yesterday about Scherzer’s 6.30 ERA. We all know, of course, that it depends on which Max shows up. By the same token, John Lannan’s 5.00 ERA can be misleading also. He’s a pretty good pitcher and was in fact the opening day starter this year. The premiere matchup takes place Wednesday night when Verlander goes up against Livan Hernandez. You may have seen Hernandez with the Twins recently, but he’s back to being the old Livan, that is, throwing big slow curveballs and assorted slop and getting out of jams constantly.
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The Nats have an interesting lineup this year, probably for the first time in their short history. You’ll remember speedy Nyjer Morgan from Pittsburgh last season when he hit 2nd behind McCutcheon. Christian Guzman is a former Twin from the first half of this decade. Everybody knows about Ryan Zimmerman and Adam Dunn, but they’ve been backed up by Ty Willingham, nicknamed “The Hammer.” Pudge is having a great year at the plate and has provided excellent veteran leadership for a mostly young pitching staff. One name you may not know is Ian Desmond at shortstop.
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The Nats play a lot of low scoring close games and so do we, so I would expect more of the same. I’ll be blacked out of the Tigers feed so will be tuning in to Washington’s broadcast.
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The Nats are my NL team due to proximity. The Tigers remain my real team, of course. For example, I don’t post on the Nationals’ blog, and will certainly be rooting for Detroit this week.
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This could be a fun three days of baseball.
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–Rich

Sort of surprised they have kept Sizemore playing 2B with 3B and SS both to varying degrees up for grabs this year and almost certainly next year.
He keeps hitting any pitcher .368 & .343 with the only criticism being his .278 for runners on against .391 empty. Almost forgot – just one error to date.

Thanks for the scouting report Rich. Although they are not a good team, I think that Washington is going to pose a bigger problem than one would anticipate. But if if we get decent pitching and our bats show up to a cetian degree 2 of 3 would be great.
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Going to the ballpark tonight, it is supposed to be another rainy gloomy day in Michigan. Hopefully Scherzer is on and the rain and thunderstorms hold off.
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GO TIGERS
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Oh ya here is to hoping that Magglio, Jackson and Guillen are good to go.
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If you want some laughs, go next door to
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http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2010/06/how_effective_has_tigers_manag.html
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If you haven’t already read it, that is. And here I thought I was in a minority in my opinions of JL. Judging from the comments, I’m most definitely not. It’s all spelled out clearly in the comments where the fans are coming from. And this after a three game win streak!
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Ryan Raburn leading off and playing CF according to freep.com because AJ is out with back spasms.
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Very interesting comments Rich. They mirror much of what we have been griping about for years now.
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I see Raburn is leading off. Gotta reward those .165 hitters by hitting them at the top of the lineup. I guess the ony way he would bat 8th or 9th would be if he were catching or playing short. Anyway, he is due to “do” something.
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The D-Backs have a pressing need for relief pitchers. They also have (I think) only 1 LHP on the roster (Dontrelle).
Would they not be interested in Ni or Thomas? Would we not be interested in Drew?
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I liked Raburn last year but this has got to be close to his last hurrah. If he has to play outfield and bat in the top order, lead off and CF are his picks.

Has Jason gone part time or something?

I think Raburn will hit a leadoff home run.

dave, I’ve noticed that many of the articles written about the Tigers even right after the games are written by writers I’ve never heard of. It appears MLB.com has more and more control over the team websites. I don’t know if this has happened to anyone else but sometimes when I click on the Tigers website, it goes to MLB.com and then I have to click on teams to get to the Detroit site.

Tough run to give up in the first – I thought we were starting to get rid of the errors.
Sticking that slider for the strikeout and then getting the last out in the 2nd with runners on hopefully will be huge for Max.

SPEED 1 —-Tigrs 0.
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JL may be plaeased with Carlos at 2nd but it is still a learning curve for him. In the 2nd inning there was a base hit fromja LHB that Carlos was playing way over to 2nd because he is thinking about turning the DP. The guy got a hit and the runner went to 3rd. Should not have happened.
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He is shying way too far over to the 2nd base bag. This also is a reason why he has been an adventure on covering the 1st base bag on bunts.
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He needs to adjust a little and re-think what his strategy is out there.
The little things like that were automatic with Placido.
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Carlos brings that quirkiness with him where ever he plays. I really liked him (other than his range) at short and after the change he has shown potential at 1st & 3rd but alwyas with huge defecits at both. LF was a disaster.
I think he can become a very decent 2B if he accepts the role and it’s obligations and not try to compensate because of his perceived physical limitations.
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Raburn up here with the sacks full. The guy has to bear down. He is hurting his team. He has been horrible in this situation.

That took some guts to get the walk from 1 & 2.

At least we got one in. Our starters have enough problems without watching runs being butchered. I thought 15 LOB after 5 innings was going bad.

The one play that Carlos missed should have been an easy out for a good 2nd baseman.

so glad to be wrong about raburn. soooo happy to be wrong, at least for tonight.

RR and GL–unlikely saviors. It’s about time they contributed. And it is about time we give up on Scherzer as a starter. But do we really have anyone else…

Pudge. He looks so happy and is playing so well.

Todd-

We have Coke and Bonine. :)

Gerald Laird: What a difference a day makes!

Six innings and four runs–average for a gut with an ERA in the sixes. I guess maybe he is the best we have for a fifth starter, though.

Sorry, I meant guy, not gut

Hi everyone,
I’ve enjoyed learning a little about you with your personal details posted here, very nice. Interesting and friendly place this is.
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I’m visiting Michigan for a few days, and now I understand why you all complain about the late night west coast games. I fell asleep trying to listen to the Giants home game. I was sleeping in the same room where as a kid I used to listen to Harwell on the transistor radio next to my pillow. Same room, but now I’m listening to Jon Miller perfectly clearly on my MLB iPhone app…and can watch video clips if I want.
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Caught the end of the 9th inning tonight, watched Valverde put men on base without that nervous feeling I used to get with Rodney or Jones!
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I wonder if Jason has trouble keeping up with us. He is probably busy reading all our comments.
JP

I like Scherzer. I think he makes too many mistakes and could benefit by not being so hyper. He gets 0-2 on a guy and maybe he should shake off a pitch or 2 and concentrate on what he wants to do as to pitch selection. I thingk he is going to be a major asset but he does need to slow himself down at times.
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I thought Scherzer gutted that one out pretty well. To call the umpire’s strike zone postage stamp size would be charitable; it was more along the lines of non-existent. That made it tough on both pitchers and it’s not surprising their respective pitch counts shot up. Those strikes called balls add up and put a pitcher in a constant hole of being behind in the count. Scherzer and Laird did the best job of adjusting to these conditions. And my man Rob Dibble called it straight. At one point he said Fairchild wasn’t giving either side of the plate to Scherzer and he was right. I think Max has a lot of potential if we can survive the bad starts.
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How about Gerald Laird? Just like in Texas, he seems to hit better when he’s not the full time catcher. That’s weird, but whatever works.
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I was leaning towards Kelly getting the start in CF. Better defender and Lannan has trouble with LH hitters, to the tune of a .400+ BA against. Fortunately Raburn finally came up big tonight. I hope he can keep that up because now JL will play him 18 innings per game. :-) Ryan did give some credit to McLendon for an adjustment, so there’s that.
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That was a strange tag attempt by Pudge on Cabrera at the plate. Why did he turn away from the runner then try a backwards sweep tag?
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Nyjer Morgan laying down a bunt, stealing second and going to third on the bad throw, then scoring on a short sac fly. Man, I couldn’t believe that. The kid has brutal fundamentals but sure put it to us there. Speed kills.
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I have to ask why Trevor Thompson keeps asking Leyland about momentum. He gets the same answer every time but persists in asking the question. John Keating doesn’t ask dopey questions so I know it’s not FSN-D policy. Trevor, you’re asking questions on behalf of us, the fans. Please be a little more creative.
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Finally, in the “I don’t need to know this” department, my wife wants me to amend my facial hair to look like Phil Coke’s. I had to ask myself “what would Armando do” and will have to give it a try. :-)
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Well, I got the home run right, just the wrong inning. I cannot understand for the life of me how we can have such a dominating record against the NL in interleague. Since the Twins also do, does this mean we would be the top 2 teams in the NL if we played there? In any event, good to see another win. A comeback effort, again. Hopefully JV can keep it going tomorrow night. I will be watching from my sports law class!

Pudge was not expecting the ball at home plate and was standing in front of home. Rod’s explanation for the play Rich.
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Well, I just have to laugh at traceyhuff’s word for word script of after-game show interviews. “Well, you’re only as good as the next day’s pitcher. Now, that’s a fact.” The players sound like machines. Even Johnny Damon is starting to sound like the rest of them. Of course, what else can they say when they get the same, dumb questions every single interview? They never ask about plays or what happened on the field. Oh, well. My rant for the day!
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Cabrera’s slide home was trenendous. He knows how to slide into bases to avoid the tag. That’s something some of the other players need to work on.

Rich, I often cringe at the predictability of the post game shows on Fox. I’m pretty sure we could all interview the player of the game. I can provide the script.
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YOU: How big was that________? (hit, homerun, double play, strike out, fill in whatever)

PLAYER: Oh, it was huge. He’s/We’ve been _________(struggling, doing that all year, etc…..)

I’m just glad I could contribute and we got the win.

You nailed it, Tracey. “How big was it” or “how important was it.” I don’t even know why I watch that garbage, unless it’s to catch that one in a million time that something important is actually said, such as “we’re swapping Guillen and Cabrera between first and third.”
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Livan Hernandez tonight. He has a way of making hitters look foolish. It’s fun when you’re rooting for him but not so fun when you’re the victim. Let’s hope our guys keep their heads on straight at the plate. Verlander and Livan couldn’t be more different in their approaches.
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Maybe we can start a new game – Where’s Jason??
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Don Kelly is becoming a bit of a day game specialist with career .314/.351 to .133/.235. He usually hits a lot better at home and doesn’t mind the lead off. Hope he is seeing them tonight.

Oops – I gave Don’s 2010 stats – his career are .324/.378 for day games and .138/.233 for night – can see how I got them confused.
Might as well now give you his home stats of .300/.382 and away of .171/.216 which are also similar to his career .281/.361 and .179/.250.

That’s nice baseball—the bunt by Ramon. And Kelly rewarded the decision with a sac fly. Now Damon not getting the ball out of the infield is another story altogether.
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Laird is really exhibiting confidence at the plate. I was surprised to see him get the start today but vry interesting to see him stand in there and deliver.

JV can’t complain about the run support this year.
Love it when use all ways to score with the sac bunt, fly and walks enabling 4 runs off 2 hits.
Surely JD will come around at some stage. Unreal how poorly apart from Miggs, the $$$ offensive aquisitions have worked out the past three or so years.

I like the name someone gave KaBosh – two pitches, 2 hits. No mucking around.

Sportscasters calling Boesch “The Insurance Man.”

No way do I bring JV in for the 8th. Totally unnecesary.

Damon has not been the clutch hitter I thought he was. He has a penchant for leaving men on 3rd. Lots of weak outs and strike outs. Yes, he had been hitting a bit but he is a “reputation” guy IMO. I think he can be a major force on this team but it just is not happening yet. I thought he would be more consistent. He has not created havoc on the bases either. Very little power.
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Nice little run here. I am hoping that somene emerges as a contriuting shortstop. It has made a world of difference with Avila and Laird (and Inge to a degree) starting to hit the ball.
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Damon has not been the clutch hitter I thought he was. He has a penchant for leaving men on 3rd. Lots of weak outs and strike outs. Yes, he had been hitting a bit but he is a “reputation” guy IMO. I think he can be a major force on this team but it just is not happening yet. I thought he would be more consistent. He has not created havoc on the bases either. Very little power.
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Nice little run here. I am hoping that somene emerges as a contriuting shortstop. It has made a world of difference with Avila and Laird (and Inge to a degree) starting to hit the ball.

Damon has not been the clutch hitter I thought he was. He has a penchant for leaving men on 3rd. Lots of weak outs and strike outs. Yes, he had been hitting a bit but he is a “reputation” guy IMO. I think he can be a major force on this team but it just is not happening yet. I thought he would be more consistent. He has not created havoc on the bases either. Very little power.
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Nice little run here. I am hoping that somene emerges as a contriuting shortstop. It has made a world of difference with Avila and Laird (and Inge to a degree) starting to hit the ball.

Don’t get me wrong about my in game comment about Damon – I definitely don’t lump him with Sheff or Huff and think he will end up having as important a role on the field for the Tigs as he is having off. My only proviso is he has to be managed differently than to date.
My concern about turning it around also relates to him finding his clutch hitting as shown in the following comparisons of 2010 situation stats and corresponding career figures:
Batting Average: .287/.387 (Career .288/.356);
Bases Empty: .315/.404 (C .284/.350);
Runners On: .250/.365 (C .295/.366);
RISP: .196/.364 (C .294/.375);
Loaded: 0.0/.250 (C .387/.421).
JD’s 18 RBI’s is on track for a season total of around 40 compared to his 74 average over the past 5 year ranging 63 to 82.
I also think the lead off would help him together with freeing up the DH role as he is .260/.358 as DH and .329/.436 as a LF’er.

We had a good approach to Livan tonight for the first three innings; that is, make him throw strikes and display plate patience. That worked better than could have been hoped for. We got away from that after taking the 5-2 lead and it made the game closer than it should have been for several innings. In the end, I guess it doesn’t matter when you get your runs if you wind up counting 8 of them. I did like that 2nd inning bunt. A run is a run whether it’s the 2nd or the 8th inning.
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Verlander did what Verlander does. Just a thought; is there any pitcher better than Justin at getting to firstbase on anything hit to the right side?
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Have to avoid getting fat and happy and go for the jugular tomorrow, after which I can go back to rooting for both teams.
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I don’t mean to start a row here, but I’m not quite understanding the complaints re Damon. He just came off a hot streak and his numbers all season have mirrored what he did last season. The main difference, IMO, is that he was in the middle of more rallies for New York while we have missed a lot of opportunities for big innings, especially early in games. He can’t control what other hitters do or don’t do. I also still think he’d be better leading off but JL is adamant on that. I knew when JL began the first ST game with Jackson-Damon that it would take an act of congress to get that changed. He’d already made up his mind that he had his replacement for Granderson-Polanco.
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Have to disagree with you, Rich. Damon’s numbers are not “mirroring” what he did last season. He is of course way down in the power department, and we can understand some of that due to not playing in the new Yankee Stadium. But coming into the season a .400 hitter with the bases loaded and then going .000 so far this year, and hitting under .200 with RISP…that’s not the Damon of last year or what we thought we were getting when we signed him. I liken it to Maggs last year. He ended up over .300 but with much lower HR and RBI totals than expected. Did he have a terrible year overall? No. Was he the Maggs we thought? No. Did the difference cost us the playoffs? Well, we lost in a 1 game playoff, so an average Maggs season would have likely won us at least 1 more game. And that is what I hope is not happening with Damon. At the end of the year, if he hits .288 with 9 HR and 42 RBI, and we lose by 1 game, it will really sting.

Damon has not been the clutch hitter I thought he was. He has a penchant for leaving men on 3rd. Lots of weak outs and strike outs. Yes, he had been hitting a bit but he is a “reputation” guy IMO. I think he can be a major force on this team but it just is not happening yet. I thought he would be more consistent. He has not created havoc on the bases either. Very little power.
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Nice little run here. I am hoping that somene emerges as a contriuting shortstop. It has made a world of difference with Avila and Laird (and Inge to a degree) starting to hit the ball.

Damon has not been the clutch hitter I thought he was. He has a penchant for leaving men on 3rd. Lots of weak outs and strike outs. Yes, he had been hitting a bit but he is a “reputation” guy IMO. I think he can be a major force on this team but it just is not happening yet. I thought he would be more consistent. He has not created havoc on the bases either. Very little power.
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Nice little run here. I am hoping that somene emerges as a contriuting shortstop. It has made a world of difference with Avila and Laird (and Inge to a degree) starting to hit the ball.

JL is planning to sit Damon today with AJax still not available to play. Glad Kelly will get to play his day game at home where he is .455.
Interesting 1-2 order with Raburn and they will probably get 4 hits between them.
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Really nice to see the team coming together against average teams, easily their most frustrating games in recent seasons.

An Alex Di Fillipo has been writing game follow-ups on the main website. Don’t know if he’s filling in or just MLB is changing up the writers. I’m assuming Beck is still our beat writer, but we don’t see him as much. Not a word about Perry on the DL or Gonzalez called up. Seems strange.
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Saw an interesting bit on MLB Network last night between the commentators betting the NL would go to a DH within a few years. One of them said ‘never’ and the other one was adamant they would because the AL has too much of an advantage with the DH. I’d be shocked if it happened since the players don’t even want more technology according to Bud Selig. One of the commentators remarked that if he was paying a pitcher 16 million dollars a year, he wouldn’t want him in the batting cage taking BP and injure himself. Good point, but that’s the same point I’ve made with increased technology…too much money involved to be making silly mistakes. OK, I’ll let that rest.
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Did anyone else wonder about the HR?? Dunn hit? It looked to me like it hit the top of the wall and fell back in.

Hey pup, thanks for the info. Too much to do in my yard. We had 5 inches of rain in GR Tuesday night. I turned on the game and it was 4-2, then saw the 8th and 9th and saw Gonzalez. I would rather see the AL get rid of the DH. If I am paying a pitcher millions I want him to earn his money by hitting. If I was the Commish………… Well, let’s get out the brooms! Go Tigers! –Dave

Pup, the ball hit the vine behind and came back down to glance off the top and back on to the field.
It was definitely out.
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Regarding Damon, yeah I can go along with what you’re saying, Dan and Drummer.
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Pup, Dunn’s homer actually hit the wall behind the hedges, bounced back through the hedges, then skipped off the outfield wall back onto the field. It was what they call a “mighty blow.” With the wind pushing it, he hit it over the hedges. I could see that on the slo-mo replay so that umpire, Mike Reilly I think it was, made a good call there. Mike Reilly from Battle Creek, who Ernie called “Cornflakes.”
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ANyone else getting a Media Error on MLB.TV trying to watch the Tigers? Listening to Dan and Jim and really enjoying their commentary better than Mario and Rod.

No problems with MLB Audio this way. Signed in just fine and it came right on.

I had the same trouble.
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The team is playing good baseball now. Bunting, fielding and pitching hve been very good. Hitting has really picked up. Nice when firing on all cylinders.
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Boesch is becoming pretty dependable in the OF too.
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Bonderman—NO walks. Nice job.
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Suuhhhhweeeep!

Wow – this team is starting to play complete baseball.
The starters are getting into sync and I can’t remember when Maggs, Miggs & Carlos were healthy and collectively in form. Huge.
Pretty hard to fault JL the past week with giving Damon a day off and slotting Ramon up top instead of Kelly worked really well. Another reason to put AJax at 2 and bunt Damon over, particularly against lefties where he is .179/.214.
Funny how the catchers and the bench are starting to hit the same time. Sure is infectious.

Yeah, it looks like my warnings about the Nats were needless. The Tigers took them seriously, had some excellent ABs, and pitched and fielded well. Good work. The Nationals are like most teams trying to establish themselves; the final hurdle is winning on the road. They’re not there yet.
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Bonderman did a good job of “pitching to the park” the first couple of innings. Those guys were hitting some shots and had nothing to show for it. Bondo has several movements on his 2-seamer and it matches well with his slider. He’s good now. Another pitch would make him dominant but I don’t know if that will ever happen. When he does throw the third pitch du jour, he gets hit.
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Pretty good day for Santiago. Nats announcers Bob and Rob were upset with Avila’s 2-run double, which came from “a .219 hitter.” Well, there’s .219 and then there’s .219 when you’ve been on the interstate all season. It’s all relative.
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Now a game back in the loss column. The thing to do is not let down against the D-Backs. I heard today that Dontrelle was starting tomorrow night? If true, we should know how to handle him. Plate patience and let him implode. Sorry Dontrelle, but you’re on the enemy side now.
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In the end, however, we still have to beat the Twins head to head. There’s no avoiding that. Meanwhile, I can go back to rooting for the Nationals which shouldn’t be hard to do with the White Sox coming to town. :-)
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It is amazing how well they handle the National League teams. I realize the Pirates and Nationals are last place teams in their divisions but what happens when the Tigers play last place teams in the American League? Kansas City? Seattle? They haven’t played Baltimore this season but I can remember the last few seasons when the Oriole hitters almost seemed to own the Tiger pitchers. Does the American League have better scouting reports or what? Being from Illinois, it has been eternally irritating why the Tigers don’t handle the White Sox better than they have. So now it is Arizona, another last place team. Going for 9 in a row? It sure would help. Look at the 9 road games after that. Atlanta, NY Mets, and Minnesota. Yikes!!!

Really looking forward to the series with the SP’s for the DBacks confirmed – GMan V Willis; Rick V EJax and Scherzer V Ian Kennedy.
We could have taken Ian Kennedy as part of a straight NYY trade for Curtis but elected to effectively get Schlereth instead with Scherzer for EJax.
Amazing how often you end up playing against recent trades.

Tigers are finally back to their high water mark for 2010 at 7 over .500. What a difference a nice little 6 game winning streak makes. Would be nice to sweep Arizona to go 10 over with that road trip coming up against 2 1st place teams and a 2nd place team. Might as well call the Mets a first place team too, just behind Atlanta. Tigers have only the 6th best record in the AL which is once again killing the NL in interleague play.
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I missed the game today but I see Ramon went 4 for 4. With 2 HR’s, 18 runs, 37 hits, and 10 RBI from 141 AB’s Santiago is not what you’d call an impact player. But I think he’s done more than a serviceable job at short stop. Sure, it’d be nice to have an impact player at s stop but it’s not so much where the big production guys play as long as you have two or three. If you look at some of the close games where the Tigers got it going with a little spark like a bunt single or bunt sac, or a bloop single, or walk, he has been in the mix his share of the time. There’s my monthly Santiago plug. I don’t think he is appreciated as much as he should be. The occasional reserved atta boy seems all he gets.
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Mr. Binge’s Wild Ride continues with 2 for 4 today. He’s up to .255. Next thing you know he’ll be hitting .280 and we’ll be in first.
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I think Damon will be fine. The .281 BA is OK but his production has been well off his averages. But what do you expect when he’s batting 2nd. I agree with those of you who think he should lead off. It makes perfect sense. Are you waiting for me to suggest this too JL? ;-) Still, hel has 41 runs scored which is good for a tie with Ordonez for second. When he gets on there’s a good chance he’ll score. He leads the team with 36 BB’s. The problem has been little power and clutch hitting which has resulted in only 3 hr’s and 18 rbi. He’s got to get going in this area and given his history he should. Seems like he’s hit a ton of ground balls to the second baseman. Too much reaching and pulling. Go with the pitch Johnny. (This advice from a dead pull hitter who never played beyond high school ball)…No charge. Anyhow, I don’t doubt his dugout presence has been a very positive factor.

An interesting take here on Dontrelle’s start in Detroit tonight:
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http://www.freep.com/article/20100618/SPORTS02/100618042/1050/sports02
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If we could wait out Livan Hernandez, gaining an advantage over Willis should be a piece of cake. Take the same approach and it will be 5-0 Tigers before the shadows even reach the leftfield bullpens.
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Austin Jackson must have done quite a number on his back to still be out of action. Meanwhile, I like what JL is doing with his lineups for the most part. Starting Laird and Worth (I almost typed Everett) against the lefties is a good way to get those fellas some playing time. I hate to sound like a broken record (for you kids, that’s a a flat round piece of plastic that acts like a CD or an MP3 file), but I think Damon one and Raburn two would be a very good way to go. Other than that, Guillen has helped immensely in giving our lineup a good flow.
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It it so much more comforting to be facing D-Train than to have him pitching for us. Mondo deserves some run support.
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I’ve reached out to Jason via facebook but have not heard back. I hope everything is ok in his world.
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Sounds like the US Soccer Team got Jim Joyced without the apology today. That’s too bad.
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My prediction (it’s 4-0 now) is Tigers 8, DBacks 3.
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Go Tigers!

-Tracey

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This game is starting to get on y nerves. All the rookies on the infield, pitching was not a real good game for Armando.

Tigers better tighten it up!

Spoke too soon. I was counting on the Tigers pitchers to throw more strikes than Dontrelle.

Also, I’m very surprised the weather is still good in Detroit. We’ve had terrible thunderstorms in south mid-mihigan.

Sure wish Johnnie could get something going here.

It’s 80’s night, but no one looks weird to me.

I wonder what’s going on with Jackson?

from tigers.com:

Joining Laird on the bench was center fielder Austin Jackson, who missed his fourth straight game after experiencing back spasms and exiting early in Sunday’s game against the Pirates. He has experienced similar back spasms in the past and doesn’t expect to miss too many more games. He said he will get loose and take swings Friday. Ryan Raburn took his spot in center field.

“I don’t think there’s a reason to rush it if it’s not feeling right,” Jackson said. “It’s one of those things where it needs time to heal. There isn’t really a rush. It’s a long season.”

Evidently, this isn’t the first time Austin has had back spasms. Once you have an injury like this, it tends to repeat itself. Sounds like he needs to strenthen his back muscles.
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Armando pitching like he wanted the other team to feel better about themselves.

Love the way different players are stepping forward when it is needed and the bottom of the order has come alive pretty much after Adam played his last game.
Rick V EJax is going to be interesting.
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I suppose if anything untoward happened to Jason or family healthwise, we would have heard. Jason has never stopped reporting mid series or at the start of a home series.
We will probably never know what happened. His Ezell article amongst his last few posts, whilst tame enough would not have gone down well amongst Tig hierarchy.

The Tigers website says he’s a reporter for MLB.com. Before they changed all the MLB websites, Jason was always said to be their beat reporter and we all know he traveled with them. Is this not so anymore? Do they have him doing something else. He’s always written fairly about the Tigers and he was not the first person to quote Ezell. That was already out there. Come back soon, Jason. Go Tigers!!!

Hey Everyone- I got a message back from Jason. He says everything is fine- he will be back for the Tigers’ road trip.
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Now that I know Jason is ok, I will point out that the Tigers have not lost since he’s been absent…….just sayin.

Ha, that’s funny, Tracey. Take your time, Jason. :-) Thanks for sharing that. I was getting a little curious myself about this extended absence. He usually is around for the homestands.
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I thought our hitters let Dontrelle off the hook last night. Not consciously, but they got away from the game plan and swung early in some counts. We could have put more runs on the board early.
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Inge has been on fire lately. He’s doing an excellent job of avoiding trying to pull everything. Maybe it was his knees, who knows.
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We had TWO sac flies last night? Catch me, I feel faint. :-)
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Good job by Bonine, which I’ve come to expect. I got a little irked with JL when he doggedly stuck with Thomas for the lefty matchups. It was painfully obvious that Brad didn’t have his command and, in that situation, I’d throw the matchups out the window and go to a different, and hopefully more effective, pitcher. And I’m sure JL would answer that “it’s just what you do.” Well, if I have two cars and one is low on gas, I drive the one with the full tank even if it is the gas guzzler. You know? Nothing against Thomas, he’s done a good job for us.
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The division race has taken shape. Both Detroit and Minnesota are into or are about to enter tough stretches from here until the break. Chicago is hanging around. You have to begin taking all series against those two clubs as near crucial. No resting starters and no experimenting with different personnel.
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I wasn’t worried about Willis. I can’t say the same about Edwin tonight.
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The Twins are about to lose again (Thanks, Philly). 1st place is ours tonight if we want it. :)

Spoke too soon- the Twins score 5 in the 9th to tie. ughh.

Ugh! 3 LOB.

Time to make calls to GMs , looking for a starter

Wild game in Philly. 10-10 in the bottom of the 10th.

Great play in the 9th by both Avila and Boesch. I hope Dombrowski and Illitch realize the potential these two have and don’t trade them away like they have with so many other young, talented players.
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I think Porcello really need to go down to Toledo and get his confidence back. Skipping starts can’t be a confidence booster. I would give Gonzalez a start or two in Porcello’s spot, and bring up Robbie Weinhardt who’s been throwing great in AAA to take Gonzalez’s bullpen spot.
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We were close to seeing a nice come-from-behind win tonight, but hey you can’t win everyone. I’ll take 7 out of the last 8 anyday.

Tonight’s game was lost in the first inning and I’ll bet a lot of you knew it too. The strange thing there was when Boesch was hitting, I said “if Boesch strikes out then Guillen will hit into a doubleplay.” I hate being right like that. Sometimes you just get a feeling.
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That was a strange play with Ordonez and the wild pitch. Maggs should have continued to third, but then on his way back to second, he stopped to sidestep the throw from the catcher. This not only slowed his progress towards the bag, but if he lets it hit him, he makes it back safely. I’m not blaming him because that’s a lot of unexpected decisions to have to make quickly, and it’s human nature to avoid being hit by something. Just a strange play.
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Winning streaks usually end with a game that could have been won. We did get Cabrera up there in the 9th and that was a good accomplishment, having come from 6-2 down. Hinch opted to pitch to Miggy with firstbase open. Most managers won’t put the winning run on. Earlier today, however, Ozzie did just that in the exact same situation. With a one-run lead in the bottom of the 9th and a man on second, he chose to walk Dunn and go after Willingham. It worked.
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NINE homers in the Phillies-Twins game?? I hope they’re doing that fundraiser for prostate cancer there.
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I’m not as optimistic with Porcello as they were on the broadcast. A whole bunch of us wanted Rick sent to Toledo to get straight but they decided on a skipped start with extra bullpen sessions. I’m not sure much was accomplished with that plan.
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The bullpen is rested for Scherzer’s expected 6-inning start tomorrow, so that’s good. You don’t want to drop 2 of 3 to Arizona in your own ballpark.
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–Rich

DITTO to everything you said Rich. I thought the same thing in the first inning when they blew that opportunity. I think the same thing about Porcello, he wasn’t getting the ball down.
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I hope Jason okay, he has been rather spuratic this year. I am a little bit worried. I hope he is just on a nice long vacation.
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Here is to hoping for another win today. The road trip is going to be brutal.
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GK

With Porcello in AAA. Will be a position player oa reliever who get the call? They dont need a starter for 9 days. Or Turner will be called?

Porecello has a Major League contract , what that mean for the team?

I would not be surprised if they put Gonzalez in the rotation temporarily and call up a reliever. For now, I hope they call up one of the AAA outfielders. Wouldn’t mind seeing Frazier get a chance, the way he has been tearing up AAA pitching. I would guess Clete Thomas would be recalled and placed on 60 day DL if they choose someone who is not currently on the 40-man.

What I don’t understand and this is not the first time it has happened. Kennedy fairs much better against lefties than righties, so Leyland promptly puts 6 lefties into the lineup. Am I missing something here or does that just seem stupid?

Scherzer is horrible today – 73 pitches and we don’t even have an out in the fourth. He hasn’t given up a lot of runs but he isn’t fooling anybody.

Quite an offensive game we have going here 2 hits

Wow, go away for a few weeks and alot happens. Good thing Beck is out as I only had a couple of threads to catch up on. I feel Ni needs to go down to Toledo, he’s cost them some games and he’s not fooling anybody. I hope Scherzer can get his game turned around soon. I followed him when he was at Mizzou and he dominated college ball. He needs to quit trying to overpower hitters up in the Bigs. Hopefully if DD swings a mid-season trade, we don’t get the Washburn/Huff shaft again. Oswalt sure would seem to make them a legitimate Central Division contender.
Go Tigs!

Jim

As visitors in the NL another reliever would be a wise choice

Well I still – I guess that Scherzer gutted it out better than I thought he would. I didn’t think that he would get any further than the 5th. I still think he needs to pitch a little differently, like Verlander they foul off way too many pitches against him.
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Thank god for the homerun ball, and I guess the two lefties got the hits so what do I know. I guess the stats lied today. The only thing is you wonder if there would of been more righties in there it wouldn’t have been so tight.
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Congrats on a great homestand – the next week could be scary.
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GO Tigers!

We eked out 8 of 9, at home, against each of the three last place teams in the National League. Meanwhile, the Twins went to Philly and came back in the 9th from five runs down then turned around and beat Roy Halladay. The White Sox went into Washington and gave up 4 runs total in 3 games. And Verlander won’t pitch in Minnesota unless he goes on five days rest for the second consecutive start, and I don’t see that happening.
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Meanwhile, we’re unable to hit any starters with the barest minimum of skills. Of our “big three” in the rotation at the beginning of the season, two of them have had to be sent to Toledo.
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Now, what’s the upside?
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–Rich

The upside is that we are still only 1.5 games behind. We could be in 4th or 5th place, but we are in 2nd. We still have a shot at the division and a lot of teams cannot say the same.

The upside is that we were able to win 8 of 9 with Jackson out most of that time, Maggs out for a few, Laird hurt for this series and Miggy leaving a game in the 3rd injured- all out of pocket without replacements. Yes, they were all last place teams, but it’s still a feat to win 8 of 9 with some of our big players not participating full time. Damon was technically healthy, but he didn’t contribute much of anything during this run, so you can argue we won without him as well.
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But that being said, this road series is very important.
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-Tracey

These ‘games in the bank’ finally worked out that way, though Chisox keep coming up and it is going to be a great three way tussle.
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I have liked the way management has dealt with issues this year, regardless of the payroll. The only mind numbing issue has been keeping the struggling Damon at 2 when you had a chance to easily change things with AJax away.

It’s amazing that when some of these guys get regular at bats, they start to hit. I really do love the mix of young and old. You’ve got some really hungry guys and that is always good for motivating veteran players.

Jay
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