Tigers place Guillen on DL

Carlos Guillens strained left hamstring in Thursdays game will land him on the disabled list for a stretch. Team president/GM Dave Dombrowski said postgame that theyre placing him on the DL effective Friday. Brennan Boesch will be recalled from Triple-A Toledo and will join the team in Texas in time for Fridays game.

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Ughhh….we so don’t need Carlos on the DL. Let’s hope it is short-lived.
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I’m glad to wake up to read about this one. Justin may not feel like he deserved the win, but he’s had plenty of losses and no-decisions when he’s pitched his **** off. He deserves a break once in a while. The bullpen continues to impress me.
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Maggs and Miggy are crushing the ball, which is key to us winning and so nice after last season. It feels like Miggy has more game changing hits aleady this season than he did most of last season. I know that’s an exaggeration, but it seemed like his impressive stats were often wasted last year with solo homeruns when the game was a blow out already. It’s just great to see Maggs being Maggs.
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Excited to be able to stay up and watch the whole game tonight. I’m glad Texas pulled out a win yesterday. I hate playing a team on a huge losing streak, ’cause you know they are bound to break loose soon enough.
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Happy Friday, All.

Devastating in my opinion to lose Guillen. You all know I am partial to the guy so I never want to see him out of the lineup except for an occasional rest, but he has been doing a good job hitting well behind Miguel, which we need someone there so he isn’t just an automatic walk, of course it helps that Maggs is also hitting and if he is on base they can’t just afford to add a baserunner.

Wow, Verlander got rocked last night, glad to see the offense was clicking last night for the win. another great job by the bullpen (when was the last time you felt this comfortable with our bullpen?). And way to go Laird to get that double, had to have felt good for him. Doubles are our thing right now.

So glad I can watch a full game again without dozing off and missing the last 3 or 4 innings! Not as good of a fan as I should be!

Well I am sorry to hear this – I felt that Guillen was really starting to get comfortable with his role as a DH, and was hitting well.. Not sure this injury happened in the field though. It may have but I think the original injury (not when he fell) may of happened running the bases.??
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These late nights are horrible – we are almost don’t with them for now. Still have the Wings playing in west.
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GK

Good morning all. Haven’t commented in a few days as I dont want to comment if I don’t see the games. And since I have to be up at 5:30 EST each morning, those games are way too late for me. Good to see that they battled back in that series and got a split. This road trip could have gotten really ugly but now they can salvage a 5-6 trip and get home and get some consistency going.
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I knew that this would happen to Guillen. He should be a DH and that is it. Now, there is a credibility void in the middle of the lineup. I hope Boesch does well but please JL, dont just stick the rookie in the #5 hole because that is where the guy he replaced was hitting. I remember when he did that last year when Don Kelly came up for the series in Pittsburgh (I think) and he just stuck him in the 3rd spot because Clete was hitting 3rd (another head scratcher) before he went down.
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Go Tigers.
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– Bob

Bad news to lose the Guillen`s powerfull switch bat after Cabrera, but is something usual to see Carlos on DL.Who are gonna bat fifth now?

Bad news to lose the Guillen`s powerfull switch bat after Cabrera, but is something usual to see Carlos on DL.Who are gonna bat fifth now?

Bob, you know JL very well. Just like he was going to hit Jackson and Sizemore 1-2 to replace those guys.
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It doesn’t matter what Guillen was doing at the time of the injury. The fact is, the guy is prone to injuries and it was foolish to give him those courtesy starts in LF, especially seeing as how he was taking to the DH role very well. I doubt he’d get injured in the dugout while we’re in the field, and you cut those injury chances way way down. These decisions are the ones that kill us.
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Perhaps Boesch can have a mini-hot streak that rookies sometimes do before the league figures then out. That would help. Then after he cools, call up the next guy. Like JL would do that. My guess is that Raburn sees no increase in PT because of this situation.
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Nice survival job in LA, kudos to everybody. Now if we can avoid going completely flat in Texas, we’ve got a successful road trip.
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–Rich

Carlos was looking comfortable at the plate and will be missed. I like the decision of putting him on the DL instead of nursing him along with it becoming a month long nagging injury.
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The question now is who hits #5. I think you have to put Boesch in there and see how he does. He may see more fastballs with runners on base. He will strike out a lot, but he does have big time power. Raburn maybe be the option against left handers. The current 6-9 hitters are not options. Maggs could be an option with Damon dropping down to three and Ramon hitting second, but I would not do that move with the way the two of them are getting on in front of Cabrera.
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It is always exciting watching a player get his first start in the majors and it would be great to see Boesch launch a shot like he did during my Spring Training visit.
..Mark

Two things to glean from yesterday:
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Guillen should be ONLY a DH (WE all knew that in ST why didn’t JlL)
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When Damon is playing the way he can he makes this team work a whole lot better.
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JL should seriously analyze why Guillen pulled up lame. I mentioned poor baserunning, but it originates in him playing in the field. He does not seem to be in game-playing condition and yet they put him in LF in a move more analogous to relieveing an infant with a pacifier. JL would be wise to correlate Inge’s non-production and his wonky knees. He has rested him a few times this year and although it is sometimes easier for JL to defer to his players (Sheffield, Guillen Inge) he really needs to walk the walk and manage this team by playing guys that are playing well and resting guys with physical impairments more.
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I know it appears as though I have a real hate on for Inge. I actually don’t and feel that he was, up until recently, very underrated as a 3rd sacker. He has bigger man power for an average siize guy but that power comes in spurts. He does not only not hit well i RISP situations but he actually is a rally killer. He often deflates the team with quick K or a blown man at 3rd and less than 2 out opportunity. When this happens the bottom of the lineup is left with the detritius on the bases and hence—-the end of any rally.
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If he could hit around .270 and provide some power (I hope he has not LOST it), he would be extremely valuable. That being said, he will always revert to the below average and inconsistent hitter he has always been. (.225 over the last 3 years)

Well Dan, I called ‘em “courtesy starts” but I like your colorful analogy. :-) There’s my laugh for this morning.
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What I see in Inge is that he takes the same approach to the plate regardless of the situation. He does have an idea of what he wants to do, but he applies it to all situations. From what I’ve learned from watching and listening to Brandon, he likes to rely on his considerable athletic prowess and keep the thinking to a minimum. The latter is a somewhat endearing personal trait but doesn’t help when we need a sac fly or a runner moved over. As we all well know, however, he is what he is. And that can be frustrating.
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I’m going to go along with Mark in putting Boesch in the 5 hole tomorrow. They’re bound to pitch around Cabrera but they won’t know how to pitch to Boesch. Maybe he’ll “run into one” and we can get three quick runs. I agree that rebuilding the entire lineup, at least at this point, may not be the thing to do. But…..unlike JL, I wouldn’t stick with this setup for long if Brennan struggles.
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Good comments on this blog.
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–Rich

Seems like the Tigers have been more aggressive the past couple of games?
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The bullpen has been doing well. I remember saying in the past that the Tigers were enjoyable to watch for 7 innings, then I’d turn the channel. Haven’t felt that way this year so far.
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I see that some are having a hard time staying up to watch the west coast games. I’m waiting for someone to post that he/she fell asleep with the transistor radio next to the pillow, like we did when we were kids and the Tigers were out west.
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JP

I would be surprised if JL gave Boesch got more playing time over Raburn, who since starting the year on fire, has gone cold with few AB’s since the last two weeks of ST. Raburn has shown lineup positions don’t faze him.

“Courtesy starts”. Now, that is a good one and so true. I kept thinking last night we were pretty even in LF with Matusui out there for his courtesy start and Guillen in left. We all saw the advantage we had with Matsui in LF. He looked ridiculous out there and he’s also their DH. Oh, well. What do we know?

Website problems again.
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Loking forward to seeing Boesch get his firs big leage aB. Maybe he can do a Wilkin for himself? That would be neat and would tie him in HRs with Guillen.
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Guillen was a pretty decent player in his day and I really liked him at short when he was healthy. I think he was an injury waiting to happen and if nothing else we get a chance to injuect some power in the lineup. He may have been hitting but certainly not with power. All the talk from JL about him being so successful as a #5 hiter was hyperbole IMO. He was doing OK but he didn’t qualify as imminent danger.
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I have said this before–look around the league at what the other successful teams are doing in their #5 spot. Many of them have cleanup type hitters there as well.
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They are going to have to groom someone to hit in that spot sooner or later.
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Speaking of hitting, when is our friend Avila going to start? I firmly believe he has the right stuff to handle regular duty behind the plate as early as next year. That being said, maybe they would be better off demoting him to give him the work and get his stroke back.
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I think this lineup tonight is going to give Harden fits.

Man–Vlad is an amazing power hitter.
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Not good Max–gotta take advantage of those 0-2 counts.
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One thing I notice about Max-he has an awful move to 1st. Avila is going to have fits with these Ranger runners if they are able to get on. JV needs to coach this boy on his move.
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As it stands now, he simply lobs the ball over. Eventually he is going to try to get something on it and is gonna throw it away. Let’s get on this Mr Knapp.

That was neat. Boesch camd darn close to yarding that one. Sure wish Inge’s drive got over that glove though!.
Sizemore needs to buckle down on those fast balls. He doesn’t seem to be able to attack them.

Cabrera had a beef over the called third strike. That ball looked way below his knees. I’ve thought hard and long about using more technology in MLB. Some say it takes the human element away and they want things to remain the same. After a couple years thinking about this, I’ve come to the conclusion that ballplayers only used to make a few thousand dollars a year. The good ones maybe 50,000 or more. A lot of them still worked in the summer. Well, baseball has changed mightily. The minimum is about a quarter of a million a year with the majority of players making over 1 million up to 10, 15, 20 million dollars a year. With that kind of investment in your players, don’t you want to know for sure if a pitch is a strike or a ball? What do stats mean when umpires make mistakes in almost every game? They could still keep an umpire back there to make sure the hitter is in the box, and all the other stuff they do. Maggs making 18 million with a pitch above the letters being called out on a strike. Damon called out on a ball so inside it was ridiculous and makes 8 million a year. All that money and we get inferior game calling.

Back to Sizemore: Ugh. You gonna have problems in the bigs if you can’t hit the fastball in fastbal counts.
Hopefully this is temporary. I hate to jinx him but he has been pretty sold defensively though I don’t see him as a maximum effort guy. We were pretty spoiled by Placido weren’t we?

Soon, Ajax will be under the Avila line

Now somebody tell me why Austin Jackson is not told to bunt after Ramon’s double? He’s struglling with Ks, swinging at bad balls, and doesn’t match up well with Harden. DUH!!!

Here is Inge up in that clutch situation I was talking about earlier.
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Inge up and ……………nothing. Again.
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I’m totally unimpressed with him.
Sure Boesch should have been holding but Inge did not hit the ball with the authroity he needs to.
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That weird balk call was hurtful.

Now, that’s what umpires should be doing instead of calling balls and strikes, IMHO.

I hope JL watched that sac bunt. That’s what you do.

You can’t be letting your 2 starting rookies have too many nights like this.
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I expect Raburn will be getting some playing time after all.
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Scherzer deserves bettter than he has gotten tonight. Still choked at Inge.
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That balk is a real chicken feces call. Can you imagine some ump pulling off that call in the playoffs or series? You have to guage intent.
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Can you imagine if Guerrero was on 1st. I think they said a baserunner gets THREE bases.
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Talk about a rule with potential for abuse.

Little off topic but why are the Wings losing all their face-offs?

Obviously Sizemore and Jackson don’t have much chance against Feliz. (Where did the Rangers ever get this guy?)
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Let’s see Kelly, Raburn here.

Can’t get any more clutch than Maggs right there!

Jason won’t be back until Tuesday so this particular thread is going to get real long. Just a heads up.
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That call on Avila and the mask was ridiculous. I don’t care if it is in the rules, that’s not a call you make. That thirdbase umpire must be one of those that studies the rulebook when he should be out having a beer. Heck, if we’re going to enforce BS rules like that, maybe we DO need an electronic strike zone. That cost us a game. That’s not right. How about the spirit of the rule coming into play? That was practically a dead ball situation.
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We’ve got too many rookies in this lineup. Does anyone think we can win starting THREE rookies? As it is, Jackson needs to be swapped to 9th with Santiago 2nd and Damon leadoff. When Austin gets some time under his belt, swap ‘em back. Even in making an out in the 9th, Ramon started a rally with that long AB.
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Bad baserunning by Boesch twice and Ordonez once cost us 2, maybe 3 runs. I’ll keep in mind they might be burnt out from the scheduling of this trip, but I think that really won’t hit until tomorrow night.
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Scherzer pitched very well again.
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–Rich

Your 3rd paragraph is right on the mark.
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As far as the Avila mistake, it’s probably a mistake he willl never make again. When it was replayed, it looked very strange for him to put his mask on the ball. Well, maybe I should just keep typing as the Wings have scored 2 goals since I started writing this post:)
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Electronic scoring? Bring it on!

I meant electronic strike zone. How ironic that Elvis had the winning hit on Elvis night!

The BLOG site was not working in the 9th—tried posting the following:
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“Holy cow. That was big hit for Magglio and a damned good effort on the part of the hitters here in the 9th.
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Then the dreaded leadoff walk!

See the bunt JL?

Cruz up and we look to young Ryan Perry once again? I’d bring in Valverde for the ground ball. Damn walks eh?”
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Well those walks really hurt us but the killer was the sac bunt by Treanor. Part of the game that JL does not get.
BTW, we gave up way too many hits on 0-2 counts. Perry’s was the big one and he needed to throw a nasty slider there.
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Anyway, they darn well came back against all odds in the 9th. That in itself was admirable. Too bad the bullpen finally screwed up. Ni walking the leadoff guy is something that just should not happen.
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That Valverde comment I made I was serious about. You bring in the weapon that you need at the time you need it, JL has much too rigid a philosophy on how he uses his relievers.
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Pretty good game though and I hope Perry learned something.
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I agree with Rich’s assessment on AJ. I too figure he should be dropped in the lineup until he is able to get on base more often. There is enough pressure on him and making him your leadoff hitter is heaping it. We saw the same thing with Granderson. Granderson overcame the stigma of being a leadoff man but it was hard on him. Crazy to expect AJ to just snap out of it suddenly. Ease up on him and let him find his way.
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I am pretty sure we will see Raburn play some 2B and Kelly some CF. Will that be an answer? No I don’t think it will. Like it or not—-rookies will determine the measure of success this year.

GK, Smoak is a switch hitter. Apparently JL wanted to turn him around by leaving Ni in. You then had 7,8, and 9 coming up if the Rangers didn’t elect to pinch hit. JlL wanted to get at least one more inning out of him but the leadoff walk killed us.

–Ed

Well that was a crap call against Avila with the mask thing or whatever – don’t get it.
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But yet again this team is stranding waaaayyyy tooooo many baserunners in scoring position. They can’t continue to do that and expect that they can come back in every single game. I think that is is somewhere around 42 runners on base so far in this series and with the Angels the last. Less in the late innings that in the early innings. I don’t think that they bear down until late.
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Also you cannot let Guerroro beat you like that. The two pitches that he got hits on looked to be right down the middle.
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Ni never should of been left in to face that righty in the ninth. And Perry had a long inning the night before and they should of used someone else in my opinion.
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Time to go to work
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GK

Thanks for all the comments as I was out and not able to watch the game. I said a few days ago to shake up the batting order. How many strike out does AJ have?. Lead off doubles and you don’t score. No bunts. Lead off walk in the 9th. I listened to the 9th inning on my way home. Come on JL, Perry instead of Valverde! At least if he blew the game we had our best in there. Well some good news anyway, sounds like Boesch looked good at the plate his first time up. Looking forward to watching the game tonight. –Dave

I have a sneaky feeling that JL is going to try and bat Inge 5th against LHP. I hope to gawd he doesn’t. Inge is 0 for 3 with bases loaded. He is 0 for 11 when he is down in the count 0-2 or 1-2. In the 4 AB where he has been 0-2 he struck out all 4 times. He is 1 for 10 with RISP and 2 out.
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You can’t “protect” MCab with those deficiencies.
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This is an area where I see Raburn being able to help. I think Raburn could be an adequate 3rd baseman if he starts to exhibit offensive proficiency. He will die on the vine as a utility player and he is not very likely to make it as an outfielder or 2nd baseman.
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AJ striking out at the rate he is will dictate that he either be dropped in the order or sent down for more experience. you can’t have a guy who strikes out every 2.5 At Bats leading off for you.
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Right now a lineup could look like this:
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Santiago
Damon
Ordonez
Cab
Raburn/Boesch
Inge/Kelly
Laird/Avila
AJ
Sizemore

If you insist on playing Everett:
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Damon
Sizemore
Ordonez
Cab
Raburn/Boesch
Inge/Kelly
Laird/Avila
AJ
Everett

Kelly could probably hit some in the #2 spot–or Ramon flipping with Damon.
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#5 is going to plague us all year–even when Guillen come back.
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I wouldn’t bat AJ 9th. I would worry about that being too negative of an implication for him to have to deal with after being entrusted with the leadoff/phenom role that was thrust upon him.
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One thing for sure—I would have that kid bunting.

another tough game to lose due to mental errors, too many men LOB and poor execution on offense. some thoughts on what needs to change:

* starters need to be more aggressive and attack the plate, these quick leads for the opponent make it a challenge to play .500 ball.
* Damon needs to be moved up to leadoff, AJax down to 8th/9th.
* Ni needs to be sent down, he’s not major league material yet.
* we lack team speed, we cannot seem to take the extra base and create some scoring opportunities to scratch out another run. If they are going to play .500 ball, alter the roster soon.

Scherzer or any starter should be able to win a game where they throw 7 innings, ~100 pitches, allow 7 base runners and 3 ER’s. I was hoping this wouldn’t be a long season but it’s shaping up to look that way. JL will need the Rolaids for sure.

Jim

Thomas starting kiss this one goodbye – for how nice this guy looked in the spring he has been brutal so far this season.

Another example of the fact that we’re so thin we can’t play over any injuries or illnesses. What, exactly, is the reason for Bonine not starting? JL’s response says absolutely nothing. As usual.
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I’d go Damon then Santiago. Reason being, Damon can get himself on second, Ramon can bunt him to third, Maggs or Miguel can bring him in. It’s not the 5-run inning that Leyland waits for, but it’s a RUN. I want Jackson 9th because he can turn the lineup over with speed. He’ll just have to deal with the mental aspects of employment, like we all do.
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–Rich

EGADS. The one guy I was thinking was highly expendable gets the start.
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JL says he wants to “be careful” with Bonine? Does that mean he needs to “be careless” with Thomas? I am not a huge Bonine fan but I would much prefer to see him in there rather than Thomas who is likely to get pummeled by the Ranger hitters.
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Jackson is clearly a JL Golden Boy, perhaps along with Brandon Inge. Kelly sits the bench against the RHP when it is a good time to give AJ a mental day off. Rather see Kelly get some time.
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Raburn gets a shot and that move makes sense. Sizemore is not producing and striking out more than his swing would be inclined to do.
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Willis must be awful sick.
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Laird and Neverhitt are back in the lineup. AJ follows them his 2nd time up—3 painful
ABs in a row to watch.
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Jim Price says, “Batting Thuurrrd” every time when giving the lineups pre-game. What’s up with that?

This is shaping up to be one dreadfull and perhaps very boring game for Tiger fans.
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Thomas is getting about hard as I thought he would. Wait till he can’t throw strikes to see how bad this can get.

This is bad as throwing Figaro in a pennant race.

I honeslty wonder if these sac bunts make any kind of impression on JL? Treanor’s bunt in the 9th last night was key to them winning IMO. It put pressure on the D and the pitching. BTW, this one will be over by the 3rd inning.
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I can’t believe they ever brought this guy north.

Well this performance may save Ni’s job. JL must be chomping at the bit to get Miner back. Not so sure he should be really looking at Galarraga too.

Amazingly enough we are still in this game. Thomas actually got through a tough part of the lineup giving up 1 run when it could have been much, much uglier.
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BTW, Will Rhymes down on the frm is hitting very well for Toledo. Dlugach has cooled off, mainly due to struggles like AJ with strikeouts.

Pretty favorable official scoring. The ball by Teagarden was certainly scorched but that play is made almost always. It was right at him.
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I wonder if JL has the temerity to try and squeeze one more out of Thomas?

Well, this could have already been over and we’re lucky it’s still a game. See what happens when you have a struggling hitter with some speed bunt the ball? Things happen. C’mon boys.

Good to see some baserunning and bunting. About time.
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Rellief pitching was special tonight–even hard-headed Zumaya got by with his fastball. Not sure how he did that, perhaps he had it moving a bit tonight?
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They could have folded their tent. I know I did. They do seem to have a knack for not thinking they are out of any game.

Don’t know about the rest of you, but going in I thought this was a game we wouldn’t win, what with the pitching situation and all. Brad Thomas pitched in a nearly impossible situation but didn’t lose complete control of the game, getting the big bases loaded K and the scoreless 3rd. Eddie Bonine is not someone who looks impressive out there but he gets outs. I like him.
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I also like Damon’s baserunning. These are skills that the majority of players had when I was young, but have become more rare with each passing decade. Johnny really knows what he’s doing out there.
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Another thing I liked was Lamont waving home Santiago. We finally made the other team execute the play and they couldn’t do it. Good aggressive baseball there. It can be done. Of course, you’ve got to pick your spots and opponents and that happened tonight.
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Santiago has become one of the best all around players on the team.
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It’s good to be able to offer positive comments. And we move along.
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–Rich

Who would have thought the Tigs would win in a canter losing Willis, down by 4 with the bases loaded. No other game like baseball and shows the 2010 Tigs have backbone. If only JL and the management team would throw caution to the wind more often and not over manage the players.
Crazy team stats thus far: Starters have a 5.51 ERA for 14 of 14 in AL; Relievers have a 2.32 ERA for 1 of 14, go figure. Offense is .278 for 2 of 14 behind KC yet has scored 84 runs for 4 of 14 behind the Rays who have coverted their .258 overall BA to .31 for RISP compared to the Tigs dropping to .244 for 7 of 14.
In defense the Tigs are again in last place with their 18 errors 4 more than the next worse team, and 16 more than the Twins with their amazing 2 errors in 18 games.
The key to the season is JV and Rick with the Twins somehow learning how to lose close games which last night shows is not going to happen anytime soon.

Starting pitching, defense, consistent hitting, strong bullpen are all the keys to winning. The Twins have that. We are coming along.
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One of my greatest pleasure is watchiing Santiago play better and better every year. His bat used to be considered almost nil, but he’s really worked in the offseasons building up his strength and playing winter ball to become a tremendous player for us. I no longer cringe when Ramon comes up to the plate.

Good comeback last night. I would leave Jackson where he is for now. The strikeouts are mounting, but he does not seem to be pressing. He still has the 4th highest average on the team and 5th highest OBP. Lets see what adjustment he makes and that the league makes toward him.
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Bonine has looked good in most of his outings and when Minor gets back they will likely reduce one of the lefthanders from the roster.
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Zumaya is getting movement on the fastball and changing the location well. His command is good and he is not making a lot pitches to each hitter. I like him coming in early and going two innings.
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Porcello is due for a good outing today.
..Mark

Old veteran writer Jerry Green has an article at
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100424/OPINION03/4240409/1129/SPORTS0104/Tigers–Johnny-Damon-acts-like-a-pro–in-victory-or-defeat
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that goes a long way in explaining why I wanted Damon signed this spring. In fact, I wish we’d signed him for two years.
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–Rich

Rich thanks for pointing out that article. I really had no idea that Damon was such a class act. It makes me all warm and fuzzy on a gloomy cold, and rainy day here in Michigan.

I see Austing Jackson got some tips and help from Inge and Everett on plate discipline. Not exactly Kaline and Trammel. I hope the advice helps to cut down on those strikeouts but it kinda reminds of the old blind leading the blind adage.

Interesting lineup today. Ramon and Damon —I like that!
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Boesch playing in RF and that is his natural position so perhaps we won’t see the type of difficulty he had in left last night.
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We are really due to get a top notch performance from our 2 “Aces”. Porcello was so dominant in ST and has had nothing but trouble since the season started. Sizemore better be ready out there because I thknk he will be a very busy second baseman today.
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Boy is Porcello ever struggling. It’s dumbfounding as to what has happened with him since ST.
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Great thrill for AJ to leadoff this game in front of his biggest fans, with a dinger.
And he hammered it.
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Wings are struggling too. Down 3-1 in the 2nd after controlling much of the play earlier. They are haveing trouble with Phoenix goaltender.

1st & 3rd with man on 3rd and no out= NOTHING again.
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This is a big problem for us and real big problem if it happens in the middle of the lineup. Damon has been on fire but he can’t expect to get those close calls because he is Johnny Damon the Tiger like he did when he was Johnny Damon the Yankee.
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According to what it showed on the pitch tracker, Damon’s last pitch was clearly a ball outside. By the way, was Colby Lewis one of the Tiger’s rehab projects a few years ago? The name seems familiar.

Man, I can’t believe Porcello. He is like a BP pitcher right now. This is a bad sign. when it gors from bad to worse to worser.

And what is it with Porcello? Walking a run in. Seven hits in not even 2 innings. A 7.71 ERA . Whew!

How much JL will wait to take him out of the field? where is captain Hook when you need him?

Time to swap Galarraga and Porcello!

Hope Willis is feeling better, they’re gonna need him today!

Same Colby Lewis.
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Yucch! Avila is as lost at the plate as is Laird. I keep thinking all the good work and impressive throwing from behind the plate will fire him up at the plate. But I guess it just don’t work that way.
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Perfect example of the ups and downs or rookies is AJ on the season and in this game.
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Uh-oh—-better regroup and get to this guy (Lewis) because he has turned it around and is now better than the hitters he is facing.

Trivia answer:

NORM CASH!!!

JL is leaving Porcello in there to show that he has confidence in him and to save wear and tear on the bullpen. But it doesn’t look like RP can get through 5 innings. At this rate they are going to have to make a move just to bring in some fresh pitchers for the bullpen.

Willis needs to eat some innings.

Michael Young always murders us but this is ridiculous.
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I hope we are not seeing the tip of the iceberg with Willis and his control issues. Kind of a weird spot to put him in in that A) it’s a relief assignment and B) he was apparently deadly sick yesterday and couldn’t get out of bed.
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They probably put themselves out of reach by allowing him to load the bases with walks. I would have MADE Porcello get the 5th inning in.

Pretty much a mirror image of last nights game!

And then to pitch Willis for ONE? What makes sense about that?

But not the way he just did in the 5th. When it was 6-4 I thought the Tigers might still make a comeback but now at 8-4 it will be much tougher.

The way RP pitched today I’m not sure it would have mattered but I felt the game really turned on the missed call on Damon. He took a called strike 3 on what should have been ball 4 to load the bases in the second inning. And he kept his cool and walked away. He has a great eye, and that pitch looked to be outside, not by a ton but enough. Just checked it on Gameday and it appeared to be off the plate by the width of the ball. It sure let Lewis off the hook and energized him. He was clearly foundering. I don’t think pitch/play review would benefit baseball but, this is one of those times where the Tigers would have benefited. The Tigers settled into 7 more innings of uninspired baseball and that was it. 10 K’s is poor hitting.
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A possibility looms that Porcello may have to be sent down to get straightened out. It seems incredible after his rookie season but it does happen, and more often than you’d think.
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With our 5-9 hitters being Boesch, Inge, Avila, Kelly, and Sizemore, there’s only so much offense to be had. We started 3 rookies, one near rookie in Avila, and one with limited experience in Kelly. I’d say we succeeded in getting younger.
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Homeplate ump Adrian Johnson has a consistently very weird strike zone. Lewis could throw that breaking ball off the plate all day and get strikes called. Our hitters never adjusted to that. And before anyone says electronic strike zone, bear in mind that it would change the game beyond recognition. If pitches actually had to throw into that little rectangle, they’d never get anyone out.
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I did like seeing JL willing to hit Santiago second. I’m thinking that someone is going to have to slide into the 5-hole to follow Cabrera. Ordonez and Damon are the likely candidates. Teams may still pitch around Miggy even then, but at least there’s someone following who can do some damage. Just replacing Guillen with Boesch, or anyone off the bench or from the minors, probably won’t work.
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Congratulations to Jackson on his first big league homer. That one was crushed.
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–Rich

Porcello BRUTAL – they need to figure it out real soon or they will have to sit him down because he cannot continue in this manner.
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UMPIRE – BRRUUUTTAALL – I though his zone was terrible and terribly onesided. It actually gave me a headache.
Colby Lewis was racking up a lot of strikeouts because of the bull crap strikezone.
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Just an ugly afternoon between the Wings and the Tigers.
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GK

Electronic strike zone. It would make the field of pitching much more level. Zoom zoom can get it over the plate. I’ll guess we’ll always bump heads on this topic, Rich.

Mark, the MLB Network had an interview with some of the retired umpires and they all talked about how much more training the new ones received and how much better the new ones are. Surely, there is already an electronic device that can measure and decide balls and strikes. The umpire could perhaps still call the ball or strike. The hitters don’t know what’s coming, so they will still attempt to hit the ball or lay off if they think it’s a ball. Pitch trax already tells us whether it’s in the strike zone. And, yes, I think your theory is correct that we see thousands of games more each season. Horseracing and Nascar do not depend on some person’s eye to determine the winner. It’s done electronically. There’s millions of dollars involved in those sports just like baseball.

While I agree that it would be nearly impossible to have an electronic strikezone and it is impossible to get every single ball/strike call correct. Yesterday I just would of been happy with some consistency from side to side. I wasn’t necessarily disapproving of the calls that Lewis was getting it was the ones that Porcello wasn’t. I am of the mind that the strikezone is too small anyway. I didn’t mind that Lewis was getting the outside pitch like I said what bothered me is that Porcello wasn’t.
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Like Rich said last week the strikezone is whatever the ump says it is. It is unfortunate when there is such an obvious inequity in it. And if I could of reached through the screen and strangled the ump. I would of.

The umpire seemed to have set up wrong behind the plate. The outside pitch to a lefthander was called a strike when it was clearly outside the zone, while the inside pitch pinched the pitcher. The pitch trax could work for side to side, but it is inaccurate up and down. You would have to adjust the up and down on every hitter to make it work. The hardest officials job in all of sports is a home plate umpire. There are a lot of bad balls and strikes umpires. Umpires seems to have gotten worse, but it may just be that there is must more exposure now with all the games being broadcast.
..Mark

Here’s hoping that Zumaya hears about Ryan’s other quote in this article: “If he gets where he pitches both sides of the plate and he throws that fastball low and away, there are going to be some sad faces,” Ryan said.

That’s about the way it went down, Mark. I remember complimenting Adrian Johnson last year on remaining consistent. He was working what they call “the slot” which is between the catcher’s head and hitter. Most umps do these days, whereas the old style was to crouch above the catcher’s head. At any rate, old veteran Treanor adjusted his pitcher to the zone. Our hitters made no such adjustment. That’s how the game is played, and has been for well over 100 years. And no, I wasn’t there back then. :-)
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Another factor in this weekend’s viewing is that odd angle they’re showing the game from in Arlington. Straight down the middle, which is good, but very high up, which is not so good. It took me awhile to get a handle on high or low pitches, finally just going by how the catcher set up and caught the ball, and how previous similar looking pitches had been called.
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Mr. Tim McClelland behind the dish tonight. One of the most respected, but also the slowest on calling a pitch. Get ready to tear your hair out.
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–Rich

Thanks a lot Nolan Ryan.
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In an article today in the Freee Press.
. http://freep.com/article/20100426/SPORTS02/4260355/1050/sports02/Joel-Zumaya-impresses-Nolan-Ryan
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I particularly am worried about this reaction from Zoom: “”I like that he went right after guys,” Zumaya said. “He threw it right down the middle: ‘Here, hit it. If you can’t hit it, right by you.”
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Just what we need, a baseball god reinforcing the notion that Zumaya can simply go out and throw smoke. Zumaya is a way better PITCHER when he effectively mixes in that curve ball and it was encouraging to hear that he was open to adding a 3rd pitch that he was learning from Valverde.
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We are lucky to have Zumaya and that he has shown remarkable recuperation abilities from the number of serious injuries to that gifted right arm. No one figured he would be able to throw again like he did before the last surgery. JL and Rick Knapp really need to pay attention to this guy. He has scasds of potential but they need to work on regulating his testosterone production in order to achieve it.

Some rumbling about bringing up an arm from Toledo. Don’t know how G-Man can be ignored. He has a miniscule 0.82 WHIP. has a K an inning and has walked only 4 batters in 24+ IP.
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With a starting staff that is still trying to find and fix itself he could really help out.
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True they have Sborz with 6 saves and no ERA, but he is a short reliever/closer type and won’t eat up many innings.

Our Starters:
Verlander 1 Win 6.95 ERA
Porcello 1 Win 7.91 ERA
Bonderman 1 Win 7.20 ERA
Willis 0 Wins 5.00 ERA
Scherzer 1 Win 2.63 ERA
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That’s FOUR wins in 19 STARTS
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You can get distracted with stats but they do tell a story.
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Those 4 Total wins by or 5 starters are mateched by 4 different guys who have 4 victories each!
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At one point in the Ranger series the Ranger announcer mentioned that the Tigers had 5 stolen bases this YEAR. The Rangers had 5 stolen bases in one (not game) INNING this year.
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Brandon Inge has zero HRs and ONE runs scored.
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Laird, Everett and Avila have chipped in collectively for 2 RBIs.
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No help on the farm at the catching position is in sight. Diaz is hitting a lusty .200 and Rabelo much less.
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Yes it’s early. But it’s time.

I completely agree Dan – I don’t think that those pitching numbers can be ignored. And the guys (Porcello and JV) the two guys that we were counting on are the worst. It looks as though Scherzer is going to be the Nate Robertson of 2006-2007 – The guys who gets his games either blown by the pen or a lack of run support.
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JV and Porcello have got to figure it out and soon and if they can’t something has to be done. While I know they are just going to have to live with whatever JV does, Porcello is young enough they can send him down and bring up Galarraga. And frankly it can’t be too soon for me.
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The other BIG problem is that we are stranding waayy too many runners on base, 165 by my count. Which has probably cost us at least six games in which we lost by 1 or 2 runs.
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We lost 2-3 and stranded 8
We lost 2-4 and stranded 8
We lost 0-2 and stranded 8
We lost 5-6 and stranded 10
We lost 4-5 and stranded 9
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But Leyland is correct its onlt as good as the pitching – Lewis made corrections and Porcello and the Tigers didnt
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gk

Zumaya has pitched great since the start of the season. I would offer him in a trade to Nolan for their shortstop.

I hear you jmp.
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I expect we will have a call up form Toledo today or tomorrow. (The Hens just called up a LHP from Erie)

Nice 1st inning and big hit by Raburn after Inge (again) does nothing with a man on 3rd. I know I am down on this guy but geez. What is he doing (and I knew JL would do this) batting 5th?
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Laird must be leading the league in pop flys and Sizemore on taking fastballs down the middle.

One thing about our club is that we often don’t know how to simply stomp on the throat of their opponents. Yesterday we had a chance to put them away and Damon struck out followed by a DP grounder. Today Cab struck out with 2 men on against a guy he probably should be able to hit.
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.Bonderman has an idea. He is allowing these guys to hit the ball but so far has not given them anything too fat.
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Nice job.

C’mon guys—let’s make this guy work!

AJ is on—let’s see him run!

Well Inge did show he has power. That was a 420′ bomb. Now we know we can expect more!
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It would be real nice to see Bonderman get a couple more quick innings. He pitched himslef out of a jam last inning and was unfortunate to be a little wild.

Damn. Jeremy has given up 3 2 strike hits the last 2 innings. Killer.

Shame–Bonderman pitched very well. He just needs to be able to bear down at times. I do believe JL is right in taking him out but Taylor Teagarden who is hitting worse than Avila or Laird is so due and can sust now sit “dead red”.

Zumaya is throwing and throwing strikes but if there was EVER a time to sho the curve it was that 0-2 pitch to Garko. The fact that he doesn’t do it concerns me. I know he nailed him and Garko looked bad in getting nailed—I’m just sayin’.
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Tigers need to pick up Bonderman here and get a couple. It’s important.

Well the Rangers dodged a big bullet there in the 7th. Tigers hit the ball hard but came up empty. I am a little surprised Laird was thrown out so easily–he often gets down the line pretty darn quick.

Michael Young must love playing agisnt the Tigers. He always seems to hurt us. This is one of those ‘don’t feel so good even though we have the lead” games.
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Will take a minor miracle to get out of this one. Even if Coke gets Hamilton (who’s hot) you gotta deal with Vlad.

Well that’s what we get for not squashing these guys when we had the opportunity. Fudge.

Alright. I’ve done my job. I’ve yammered so much about Inge not hitting that he has taken personal offense and is now looking like………..Chris Shelton??
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No comment on Laird trying to go for 3 with 2 out. At least he hit the ball hard and he did the time before. I will yammer a bit more till he gets going.

Never , never the last out can be trying to reach third base

Good win tonight. Bondo pitched a strong five and that seems to be his limit right now.
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Nice to see Inge get the power stroke going. I would like to know if Cabrera swung at what would of been ball three to get Felix to come back to try and get him out.
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The home plate umpire call the low strike tonight, but he was consistent and with his delayed call I had the change to make the call.
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You have to be happy with the split in Texas and LA. Now lets sweep the Twins.
..Mark

Hey Dan,
I was talking to Brandon and he said to say hi. Never going to be Mike Schmidt, but at least give him some credit. He’s not a great hitter, he strikes out too much, but he’s not as bad as you’ve made him out to be. I still think his defense helps to compensate on the hitting side. But, I will admit that I am 100% biased. Keep posting Slow Byrne; at least you pull for the right team.

Greg

Well I didn’t get home right until Texas tied it up. (am I a jinx). But I was told that Bondo was great until that inning and maybe JL was right he hit a wall. It is just beyond me that these guys that that were hitting below 250 coming into this series (including Young and about 5 others in their lineup) seemed to come to life with the Tigers in town..
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Anyway it looks as though everyone chipped in tonight especially Raburn, Cabrera and Inge with the bat.
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Heres to nine more games in a row before a day off.
And just as an fyi I looked at the schedule for the Twins and quess what they never play more than 13 games without a day off???

Wow, is it ever good to be Miguel Cabrera – that guy is simply amazing at the plate. He is so confident and relaxed when he is up there, and coming through time after time for us. Glad he has some big shoulders to carry so much of this team. Way to go Inge, I can’t imagine how good last night felt for him, hopefully that is the start of something for him.

Bondo had 5 terrific innings, and maybe that should be his limit. Of course hindsight is wonderful, but after that single homer he gave up, he got the out, but I said to no one that he should be taken out before any more damage is done. Hopefully he can build off of that, you don’t have to strike everyone out, that is why there are fielders behind you.

Considering how the road trip started out, I am happy with almost .500.

by the way, I can’t remember which ballpark it was – maybe the Angels, but did anyone notice that there was tons of trash always floating through the field?

I’ll have to say that Inge had even gotten on my last nerve after fanning with the sacks juiced in the 1st. I give him a lot of rope to hang himself but I had my hand on the gallows lever. Raburn picked him up nicely with his near slam for three runs, then Brandon of course went on to have a big night. Hopefully he’ll hit a groove here at an opportune time.
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While some of their hitters raised their averages this weekend, our own guys were successful against the Feliz kid, who had been untouchable coming in. Like Mark, I also wondered if Cabrera didn’t go out of the zone deliberately on strike one to set the kid up. In any case, I was glad he took that hack to extend his AB. It was a rare good swing and miss.
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I thought Bonderman pitched fine. He’s still learning how to pitch all over again, and he seems to be understanding it. His first innings have improved dramatically.
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I think we saw why McClelland was voted by players as the best ball and strike umpire in the game. Slow but accurate.
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So, way back there after we swept Cleveland, I had hoped for a 5-6 road trip. Not exactly the way I pictured it happening, but the results are the same.
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Hopefully we’ll catch the Twins in cooling off mode this week.
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–Rich

Inge will gets some chances tonight. The Twins will pitch real careful to Cabrera.
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McClelland seems extra slow on the 3rd strike call and is it fun to watch the players reactions. Some just stand there wait, others take a step then stop and some will be 3-4 step out of the box back to the dugout. He does not get many auguments.
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I heard Rob Dibble say that the system that they have in the parks to judge balls and strikes to rate umpires the the post season selection does not penalize the umpire for making a wrong call on balls. That they are only penalized for calling strikes when it is out of the zone. If that is true, that would be a major reason for pitchers getting pinched on the zone.
..Mark

Dibble always has some interesting comments. Personally, I like a big strike zone. It gets the hitters swinging and moves the game along. Baseball is supposed to be about pitching anyway.
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Then there’s the umpire, and I can’t remember which one it was, who talked about calling the 1995 WS. He said that Maddux and Glavine, with their pinpoint control, would start out on the black, get a strike called, then move out a half inch off the plate. If they got that call, they’d move another half inch off. This umpire said it literally gave him a headache because he’d suddenly realize he was calling strikes way off the plate and have to reel it back in. Then it would start anew; strike called, half inch, strike called, half inch, etc. I found that interesting because I remember commenting during that series that the Cleveland hitters couldn’t even reach some of those called strikes.
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Oh well, it’s all part of the game.
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–Rich

1. Austin Jackson, CF
2. Johnny Damon, DH
3. Magglio Ordonez, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Brandon Inge, 3B
6. Ryan Raburn, LF
7. Gerald Laird, C
8. Scott Sizemore, 2B
9. Ramon Santiago, SS

Well–they will have to counter a very intimidating and impresive Minny lineup. After the M&M boys the twinkies have THREE #5 hitters!!! Cuddyer, Kubel and JV’s favorite, Thome
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Minny has one of the best leadof guys around and then they went out and got 2 solid middle infielders in JJ Hardy and Orlando Hudson. There one wink link is maybe Brendan Harris at 3rd.
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We better pound the ball over the wall becuse if we can’t wait for the Twins to boot the ball around. Their infield has made ONE (count ‘em) error all YEAR.
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Throw in their pitching and you have a pretty exciting team for their adoring fans.

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