Inge to have surgery on both knees

Just got confirmation from the Tigers, who say Inge will have surgery on both knees, which Inge did not confirm Wednesday night. He’s still expected to be ready for the start of spring training. Team physician Dr. Stephen Lemos will perform the surgery Nov. 3 at Detroit Medical Center.

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I guess we can comment on this here without it becoming one of those polarizing Inge lovers vs Inge haters wars that I see on so many boards.
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I’m fairly certain that the surgery will be more extensive now after Inge pushed it so much by insisting on playing everyday, and his manager approving it (another negative in the JL column if you’re keeping score at home). Brandon gets an A for effort but an F for brains. Huff could have given him a blow at third and I thought that’s why he was brought here. This wasn’t handled well by anyone except DD who went out and got some help that wasn’t used.
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All of that aside, I hope his surgery goes well and he can come back and put in a couple more effective seasons.
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–Rich

Supposedly Huff was never an option at third base, not to the manager anyway. The word on his defense just prompted that much hesitation. If Inge had been spelled more often at third, it would’ve been with Raburn, maybe Santiago.

First of all, thanks Jason for your coverage of the Tigers. Greg, I knew you would be reading. Rich, I am keeping score but I wonder if DD or Mr. I are. I like Inge and hope all the best for him. Defense vs. hiting. Laird and Inge and Everett or………….ok, back to teaching. My wife has taught for 31 years, most has been 1st and 2nd grade. Some great families, some 1 parent families. She is now in her 5th year teaching a 3rd grade “gifted” program. These kids are smart, but sometimes have no social skills. They can pass the test but have to be taught or coached or managed. I understand kids that are not so smart just can not pass the test. Baseball players are smart at their game. They CAN pass the test. They need to be motivated, like in the 2nd half of the season. Ok, no more about the Manager, I want to have healthy players and look forward to hearing about the Winter meetings.

Didn’t mean to cause a firestorm. rMy thesis was that I’m held accountable for things out of my control. JL is too, in managing the Tigers. Let me also qualify and say that my attitude is fine. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and believe me, it’s not for the money. Thanks to all who rose to my defense. Accountability is important, as long as you can control the parameters. To put me under a system where I am paid based on standardized test performance, would be grossly unfair, relative to the city school where all the rich kids go. I see JL’s job in this light. He is beholden to contract obligations, which often times might alter his baseball judgement. Just an opinion.
Thanks guys and gals.
Greg

Well, thank goodness they discovered his other knee had to be done. Better now, than in the spring. I guess some of you are mad at me and that’s OK. I still hold Leland accountable for managing his players and the outcome of the season. We’re all entitled to our opinions here, and we don’t always agree. I can live with that.

Actually, it’s not as much fun if we were to agree on everything. I like the discussions as long as they don’t turn personal, which rarely if ever happens here.
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The announcement of Raburn as the 4th outfielder next season is just a reaction to Guillen’s “demand” that he play everyday. As far as assuring Raburn that he’s coming to spring training with a spot on the roster, no duh. I would hope so. This is all just talk. At this point,we don’t even know what the roster is going to look like by next March, so any grand pronouncements of who’s playing where and how often is very premature. I don’t know if other clubs do it, but the Tigers seem to make it a habit of announcing their starters for next year as soon as the current season ends. Kind of strange. Oh well, gives us something to talk about.
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–Rich

It’s Raburn that I would most like to see play 3rd base, but now Leland just announced he’ll be back next year but only as a 4th outfielder. What else is new?

I agree, I mean disagree, no that is my opinion, that IS what makes this blog interesting. Go to Fox sports or to the Freep and people forget about the subject and just start bashing each other. Here is a topic that I do not know about. Do we have an up and coming 3rd sacker?

I think we have been fortunate that DD despite having to pay probably a 10-15% premium to get ‘name’ players, has always acquired players that have wanted to win with money a secondary focus. The players have also always been well-meaning, probably infuriating so as it translates onto the field as Dan’s “polite baseball”. Sheff no doubt was an attempt to try to add a bit of attitude into the mix.
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I wish Inge well in his operation.
A fit, healthy Inge was key to the 2009 season. Calling him a trooper for playing through injury, like calling Edwin a horse as JL loaded on him during the first half, both took their toll and ultimately cost the team big time.
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Sorry to pick this moment to dump on Inge but I will never forget his quote on September 30 which to me was prophetic for the Tiger season. After going 2 for 4 off Pavano, Inge stated “It’s just amazing what a little end-of-the-season concentration will do for you”. Inge then went 0 for 11 the next 3 games and finished the year 2 for 20.

Greg, if what I said a few posts ago sounded like an attack, I apologize. It is just hard for me to stay silent when words like inner-city, entitlement, taxes, etc. come up. It reminds me, perhaps unreasonably, of Reagan’s welfare queen remarks.

Folks are right, and I’ll keep the comments on baseball.

I have not wanted to buy into the classroom analogy, but hey, I have always led with my chin.
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My youngest daughter is going into her last year of high school. She is always positive, very independent, strong willed, motivated and never bends to peer pressures. Yes I am extremely fortunate.
Despite this, her subject results are nearly always dependent on the quality of the teacher and she has chosen her subjects not just on preference but also the quality of the teacher being allocated.
Why is it that some teams tend to always excel and others never seem to achieve their potential??

That is an excellent question, Dave, and your question also makes a statement.
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Many years ago when I still actually played baseball, I had a teammate who was also on staff with Bo Schembechler at Michigan. I asked him what it was like to work with Bo, and my friend just raved about him. He said the players would follow him into hades itself if necessary. What I remember most is my friend saying that some guys are just built to lead. He said Bo would have been successful in anything he chose to do, but he just happened to choose football.
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The leader in any group endeavor makes a huge difference. A good leader can bring out the most of a person’s abilities and even make one perform beyond his or her abilities.
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–Rich

Further to Eric’s comment about the Tiger results, this year was not typical as the Tigs only went 10-8 in inter-league play and excluding the tie-breaker, split the games post-break 5-5 with both the Twins (2-6 pre-break) and Chisox.
It was KC that ultimately doomed the team. After winning the first four KC series 2-1 being 8-4 overall pre-break, to then go 1-5 in the two September series enabled the Twins to catch up.

If I am Ryan Raburn I am not elated to hear that I already am considered not good enough to earn a starting role next year. The club can spin this every which way but they cowtowed to Carlos and Ryan has paid the price.
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Historically this does not mean that Jim Leyland will actually follow through with all these premature announcements. We have seen him contradict himself many times and he seems to think Tiger fans are gullible enough to buy into it.
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The truth is that Carlos is very likely not going to be productive enough even IF (N.B the big “IF”) he can be healthy. At least in terms of being a dynamic run producer. Ryan Raburn may not be that man either. We actually need a PROVEN high impact corner outfielder. We can hope and dream that Raburn surprises us all and fills this role (He just might have it in him).
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Wading into the JL being a good or bad manager I would have to say I consider him to be rather mediocre and unimaginative. Not sure if that means ‘bad” but I’m damn sure it don’t mean good. Playing Inge when he was hurting (and simultaneously hurting the ball club) is an example of an obstinate man with no plan. Going with Seay when he had lost it, Granderson not being utilized for his speed (and determinedly left to struggle at leadoff), game management at end of year even worse than during the main part of the season, Figaro against the White Sox, molly coddling of MCab, the ridiculous use of Bonderman and Willis as starting pitchers (especially when Bonderman was so obviously far from being ready), refusal to consider Miner as a starter, dog-tiring Laird to the brink of exhaustion, over using Verlander in late innings. I could go on.
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The troubling thing is that one does not get the feeling that his team is comfortable with his direction. I think they like him and respect him but I was always taught to respect my elders but interestingly enough I rarely agreed with them much.
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It’s time for guy who can elicit trust from his players. Trust that he is making informed and intelligent decisions, not stubborn ones. Someone who can actually motivate his players and not demoralize them. Someone who does not treat the media and the fans as baseball peasants. Someone who recognizes concepts like momentum and chemistry.
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Time for Jim Leyland to spend more time with his family.

Wonder if Placido might just end up on the Dodgers next season. He will be a good fit for a championship caliber team.
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If (and I would be stunned if this happened) Inge were to win a Gold Glove, I would be brave enough to trade him while you still can. Bad knees and bad bat will conspire to produce another sub .230 year. This team needs to dump some salary and a Gold Glove might attract someone out there. Raburn could become a decent, productive 3B if given the opportunity.
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This lineup cannot support the type of offense Gerald Laird contributed last year. There are probably pitchers in the NL who hit more HR than the big guy and the bat avg was woeful. Reduce his playing time and I think he improves.

Does anyone know about getting refunded for the tickets for the playoffs??? I have searched the website and find no info. I have already had to pay for them and am a little annoyed about the delay. I was under the impression that they would do it automatically, but now I am wondering? I want my $500 back Tigers. I would rather be collecting interest on it not you.

GK, here’s the link to that information:
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http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/det/ticketing/postseason_info.jsp
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Basically, it says that your card will be credited in 4-6 weeks if you chose that option. If you opted to credit the refund to your 2010 ticket package, I guess it goes there and is not refundable.
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It always amazes me how these outfits can hit your card within seconds of a purchase, but refunds always take 4-6 weeks. I just paid my card that this purchase was on, so I’m now officially $300 in the hole for my foolishly optimistic purchase.
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–Rich

Thanks Rich apparently you shouldn’t search for things on the internet at 4:30 in the morning when you can’t sleep, they can be right there and you not even see them. I guess I will continue to wait for my refund patiently.

Another writer asked me last weekend if there was an up-and-coming 3B prospect in the Tigers system. Silence ensued. Unless you count Jeff Larish, who had a rough season, it’s a difficult proposition. Maybe if Audy Ciriaco changes positions and progresses offensively.

I googled “broken tibia recovery time” and felt quite ill after I read the different scenarios.

Who has a broken tibia?
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Isn’t thirdbase one of the positions on Don Kelly’s resume’? Ryan Raburn? Carlos Guillen? I’m speaking of emergency fill-ins, of course. If Inge really couldn’t go, we’d have to trade for one. Even if he’s healthy, I think we need someone to spell him at times. You can even teach a dog to sit. :-)
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This is a non-baseball related plug. I just got back from seeing “Jersey Boys” in DC. I understand it’s coming to Detroit soon, and it’s an outstanding show. If you’re near my age and/or remember the Four Seasons fondly, you’ll love it. And no, I don’t get a cut of the gate. :-)
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–Rich

Rich, it is Scott Sizemore, you know, our “new 2nd baseman in waiting”. I’m pretty sure Jason will probably write something about it, maybe not. It happened the other day while playing in the Arizona Fall League, where he has been very impressive.

Thanks Jason for the update on a prospect 3rd sacker. I stll like our defense and pitching. I wish we could be patient at the plate, not stike out so much, take shorted swings, and put the ball in play. Is that asking too much?

Hey, Rich!. Lynn Henning says it’s a fractured ankle bone. Not nearly as serious as first suspected. Still, he’ll miss the experience of playing in the Fall League. I still can’t imagine Polly playing for another team. The Dodgers say they need a 2nd baseman. I’ll miss him so much.

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