Verlander and the Cy Young award

verlander100409.jpgBefore anyone asks what Verlander’s outing Sunday did for his chances to win the AL Cy Young Award, let’s just answer it now: Probably not much. Votes from BBWAA members are due at the end of the regular season, and it’s a pretty safe bet a lot of voters had either turned in their ballots already or had made up their minds.

That said, for those who held off on their ballots until the last minute, Verlander gave quite a show.

Aside from Zack Greinke earlier in the season, I don’t know how many other pitchers lift their team when they take the mound like Verlander with the Tigers. Sunday was a must-win game, and Verlander absolutely commanded it for seven innings. The Tigers, frankly, felt like a club spiraling out of the playoff race before Sunday. Their hopes rode on Verlander, and he took over.

For whatever reason, the Tigers seem to score runs when he’s on the mound lately, then struggle for much of the rest of the rotation. Verlander, in turn, prides himself on the shutdown inning when his team gives him runs, and paces his game to get his defense off the field and back to the plate.

If that’s a major factor in voting, Verlander has it. But Sunday’s outing also rounded out a statistical resume that no Tigers pitcher since Jack Morris had put together:

  • Verlander’s 19th win of the year tied him for the Major League lead with Adam Wainwright, Felix Hernandez and CC Sabathia. He missed out on becoming the first Tiger since Bill Gullickson to win 20, but he owns the highest single-season total for a Tiger since then.
  • He already had the Major League strikeout title wrapped up, but he finished out his total at 269, eight more than Tim Lincecum and 27 more than his next-closest AL competitor, Greinke. He fell just short of he fourth-highest single-season total for a Tiger, but he still cracked the top 5 with the highest since 1971. He also captured the Tigers’ first strikeout title since Morris in 1983.
  • With the wins title shared, Verlander and Greinke split the triple-crown categories. Verlander beat out Greinke in strikeouts, while Greinke won the ERA title.

Verlander probably won’t win the Cy Young this year. What Greinke did for much of the year was that good. But Sunday made the case that Verlander deserves to be considered in the same sentence, if not even. We’ll see how the votes come down in November.

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Nice article Jason. I was thinking yesterday, hold on with the voting, Justin is making a final case here. He did, and we still have a chance. I honestly wasn’t sure what to expect from Justin yesterday. With all the pressure and the way this team was emotionally down. Maybe even some clubhouse conflicts going on. And Justin came out with not only an intelligent game plan but he executed it to perfection. That was a huge lift for this team and they fed off of it. This year Justin has matured into one of the best (if not the best) pitchers in the game. Would love to see him pitch in the post season.

with proper run support, he would have had those 20 wins! He did great yesterday, and Rodney did great too, coming in and finishing that inning (with BIG help from Grandy) and getting the save – he has done well with those 4 out saves that they seem to hate to do.

Well guys, down to one game. I watched the games this weekend with a friend visiting from Milwaukee, she couldn’t believe how inept the hitting was on Friday/Saturday. Truth is, a month ago she would have seen a different team – us and the Twins have the same number of wins, they just are coming at different times. I hope our hitters remember that, and I hope Porcello doesn’t break from the pressure, this is a lot for a rookie, albeit a terrific rookie! I’ll be on pins and needles Tuesday, here’s hoping I am posting a happy blog on Wednesday morning.

By the way, the whole Miguel thing, not a good time for off field antics to get in the way of production – thought it was odd how twice against the Sox he came off of first when I didn’t think he really needed too. That goodness for Maggs, right now he needs to be hitting after Miguel.

GO TIGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Verlander has had a Cy Young type season, no question. It’s kind of like the Oscars, though. It depends on who your competition is in a given year. CC Sabathia can’t be ruled out simply because he pitches for the Yankees, which is also what I say regarding Mauer vs Jeter/Texieira for the MVP. If asked who is the best starter in baseball this year, I have to say Zach Greinke.
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Side note: if Jarrod Washburn is really putting in some tough rehab in lieu of surgery to be ready for a possible postseason start, that’s pretty admirable.
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The Tigers will win tomorrow.
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–Rich

Miggy better produce tomorrow night, or this town will not forgive easily his drunken antics. I also heard from friends of a couple of other Tigers out late at the bar last Thursday night. I won’t mention names, but they haven’t been hitting well lately either. Of course they are grown men and can do what they want on their free time, but it does throw out the perception that they are not willing to do whatever it takes to win. It’s unfortunate.
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I do like being the underdogs, and I trust Porcello 100%. I think the only thing in question is our hitting. But that’s nothing new. I really hope this blog gets to chat about the Yankees for the next week. GO TIGERS!

-Tracey

Take my prediction of a win tomorrow off the board. Too many variables now, anything can happen. One prediction that has come true is my lighthearted one about the tiebreaker being a media circus. Looks like we’re going with the Ali-Balboa option.
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–Rich

OK—there was no ‘club house” incident after all, but a ‘family home” incident. Regardless, this is a very troubling incident for the ball team and alas, for Miguel and his young wife. It is a shame that we live in such a celebrity crazed society that incidents like this are aired out for all to see and salivate over.
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Miguel is a young man. He made a couple of mistakes. Showed very poor judgement. Guess what, it comes with the territory. Young men have been doing this since the first batch of fruit spoiled and fermented in ancient Babylonia.
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It is dreadful that this becomes public record and that the media pursues it like rabid dogs. The media attention has amplified this problem to a degree that it both challenges and insults the couple’s marriage and ignores their right to privacy. It has also contributed to Miguel’s slump at a time when every Tiger fan is counting on him.
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I think back a couple of days when media hounded Leyland and his response was that he knew nothing and that “I didn’t see anything”. An obvious untruth. One of the reasons I do not respect Leyland is that he feels he can say anything he wants and that fans have to swallow it whether they like it or not. It is like he has transferred his dislike of the media to the fan base as well. In this case he would have been more honorable to not toy with the media but to simply say that he had no comment. But, I can sure see why he is so cantankerous and disrespectful in his media interviews. It’s pretty unnatural to have to respond to impertinent and sometimes very personal questions with a sozen microphones thrust in your face.
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I feel really bad for the Cabreras. I wish the godam media would have to take courses in social responsibilty, before they are given a ‘licence” to report.
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It’s time for Magglio to take the kid aside and help him out. For his own good and for the good of the Tigers and their fans..
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And it’s time for the media to back off and not invade the privacy of public figures to satisfy the they hollow lives of it’s readers.

I forgot to add that in no way do I think that MCab is not culpable in this matter. It was a destructive behaviour and very self-centred. This was a time that all focus needed to be on the task at hand. I have commented in the past that I felt that MCab is not yet an elite ballplayer in my mind. The lack of focus exhibited here may explain why he has not achieved that status.
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I just think that the media needs to back off. It is a shame that was not allowed to have been handled internally by the club.

Dan- I understand your feelings, but it’s wishful thinking. We cannot go backwards in time. If you are a celebrity, everyone knows your business, good or bad. It just comes with the territory. I can’t believe it was kept under wraps for 2 whole days.
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Unfortunately, if the Tigers lose tomorrow, too much emphasis will be placed on this incident being a main cause, and we all know that’s not true. But we thought maybe Delmon Young blaming his pitcher for getting beaned by Bondo might divide the Twins clubhouse, but I believe he (Young) had like 10 RBIs in the KC series. hardly a distraction. Maybe this will weirdly be a catalyst for something good. I can always dream. :)

-Tracey

I agree with your thoughts, both of you, Dan and Tracey.
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The fact that he was out with members of the Chicago club casts a dirty light on the entire business. Is this why Ozzie was laughing so much and making those weird gestures on Saturday night? Maybe he was referring to a different kind of choking. Who knows? Just the fact that I’m considering it is bad, as it’s often more about what it looks like than about what it actually is.
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JL messed up with his response on Saturday night. I realize he automatically includes “I’ll be perfectly honest with you” in the same manner that many people sprinkle their speech with “you know” and “I was like.” I wish he hadn’t included it in his white lie to the media. A “no comment” was called for at that time, seeing as how DD himself had picked up Cabrera and you just had to know this story would break at some point.
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This is just a bad business on many levels.
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–Rich

Instantaneous news nowadays in our electronic world. It’s a shame, but things like that can happen when folks get drunk and come home at 6:00 in the morning. But, the hate mongers are out in force and will blame him if we lose. I’m not going to point fingers, as I’ve done some pretty stupid things in my twenties. No excuses, just be a little more mature and let’s move on and win this division!

I don’t know if Miguel was abusive towards his wife or not, time will tell. But what I can say is that going out on the eve of an extremely important game, getting wasted and staying out till morning was well irresponsible, and stupid. Is it any wonder why he stunk for the last few days, heck with blood alcohol that high he probably felt like crap even on Sunday. You would think someone that is paid that kind of money would think that maybe just maybe it is important to get a good nights sleep.
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I am sorry this guy has lost a lot in my eyes. He let his team down, this franchise and Tigers fans from all over. What a pathetic little kid. And if someone wants to tell me he is only 26 years old, well I would tell them that I knew better than that at that age. Nice job Cabrera, thanks. Hopefully you will grow up real soon and realize that you are lucky to have the kind of talent and get paid that kind of money to play a little kids game. And you will grow up and take it seriously. BRAVO
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GK

For us fans here, it is about being prepared to play the big games. The rest is hoopla and none of our business. A .26 BAC is shocking to say the least. This guy was totally wasted. Leyland’s speech about running out groundballs this spring looks idiotic now. And it makes us look idiotic for wasting our time supporting a player or players who don’t care about the team. The timing of his actions is mind boggling to anyone who grew up in American team sports.
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–Rich

This is very discouraging… I like Cabrera, but this really stains my view of him. I just hope and pray that his wife and him forgive each other and learn from this. He needs someone in that Tigers Clubhouse to be a mentor and help him deal with this situation. Where is Kenny Rogers when you need him?

I think Greinke probably wins it.

Cabrera’s e-mail statement:
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“There was an incident that took place on Saturday and it is a personal matter. I am sorry this has become a distraction, and I apologize to the Tigers, my teammates, and all of the fans. I would appreciate it if you would respect my family’s privacy as I prepare for our next game.”
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I suppose those last six words are worthy of a joke, but alcoholism is no joking matter. A conscious decision to go out drinking with Freddie Garcia (or Ozzie?) shows pretty bad judgment and it appears the man needs a babysitter. I think this is a matter that the players themselves should take care of. There comes a point where it’s up to your peers, not management.
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–Rich

By the way I go with Grienke as well, even though I would like to see Justin win.
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Well just got done watching the evening news and it appears that a few weeks ago he went into the Townsend again and was picking on an overweight kid eating at the Rugby Grill inside the hotel. He was again pretty drunk, he was trying to pick a fight with this kid who is 15 years old. Appearently he threatened this kid with a gun, but was found that he doesn’t own one. Just being an ***. Again Dombrowski was called and they had a meeting and he was told to stay away from the Townsend. Well appearently he doesn’t give a crap what anyone says. Appearently even the guys who agreed to pay him 19 mil a year he doesn’t listen to. Suspension in order??? Not by MLB but by the team.
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Very very disappointed in him. He has shown without hesitation that he doesn’t give a crap about the Tigers, his teammates, family or the fans that cheer him on. He has his 152 million dollar contract and he obviously thinks that doesn’t come with any responsibility to those people.
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GO TIGERS

I had a much better time reading Jason’s article about Ryan Raburn. Here’s a guy who worked hard to improve his hitting with outstanding results, and is the consummate team player. It’s also an example of Leyland at his best, sticking with a guy through a hard time because he knew Raburn was performing out of character when he was first recalled earlier this year. There’s been very little good that has gone on over the past few weeks, but this is one. As far as I’m concerned, Raburn can start at firstbase tomorrow evening. We need players that want it.
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–Rich

Listening to the sports radio guys on the way home from work- they are not at all surprised by the incident, and they said the Tigers organization isn’t either. Apparently this type of drinking has been common knowledge among those in the know. They also said it also makes it really clear why Cabrera’s numbers are so bad on the road compared to at home. No wife and kid on the road I imagine.
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Someone said too bad it couldn’t be handled internally- sometimes it takes public humiliation to see you may have a problem. If this type of self-destruction has been accepted and covered up by the Tigers for awhile now, they weren’t really doing Miguel any favors in the long run. Unfortunately I know way more about addiction than I wish I did.
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In the short run- I hope the Tigers find a way to win tomorrow night. When our season ends- I hope Cabrera finds the help he needs and accepts it. I don’t have any false hope it will happen overnight, but I’ll add him to my prayers.
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-Tracey

I have read about the Cabrera incident and all the comments here and elsewhere. I have only one thought no one else has raised. Is there such a thing as a team interfering with another team’s player? I know there is such a rule when it comes to negotiating a player’s contract. This incident reeks of something Ozzie Guillen would think of as hilarious. “Hey, Miguel, I’ll bet you that you can’t outdrink so-and-so.” I guess we’ll never know for sure but it sure seems something could be rotten and we are not in Denmark. If Miguel plays Tuesday, his performance will be closely watched and that will only add more pressure to an already bad situation. The Tigers are clearly the underdogs playing in the baggie, having lost 3 of the last 4 games, depending on a rookie starter, and suffering a hitting slump regardless of Sunday’s 5 runs.

GK, I couldn’t agree with you more. In fact if I were management I would probably bench Miguel for this game and go from there. It is always the right thing to minister love, compassion, and understanding when someone has a problem like this. But all too often, in our culture, for whatever reason, there is a lack of disciplinary action, punishment, whatever you want to call it. With no consequences, how can any help be truly appreciated? How can it be effective? No, I’m going to say that if management goes ahead and plays Miguel, they will not only be doing the team a disservice, they will be doing him a disservice. Sorry if that sounds heartless or self righteous. I’m disappointed. I just got home from work and this is the first I’ve heard of all this. Just disappointed…. and I feel badly for all the fans who hope for better.

Have been back home after a long weekend away for a nephews 21st.
So glad the season is still in present tense. I have a good chiropractor for JV – he surely must need it the way he picked the team up off the floor (maybe some from the gutter) and carried them that game.
JV sure has matured in such a short period of time and I think a large part of that is he has learned from Porcello away from the mound – not the mechanics which he has always been great but the way to prepare and mentally apply.
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Unfortunately with the pandered life of elite sportsmen, many become perpetual 18 year olds with weak management turning a blind eye to or even covering up indescretions. Leadership is about making and applying tough decisions that doesn’t need to be about cutting loose a player which is what weak management tends to do when feeling the media heat.
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For football nuts, if you get the chance, watch a repeat of the Australian ARL Rugby League Grand Final played between Melbourne and Parramatta over the weekend. The passion and heart displayed by all players putting their bodies on the line is memorable.
The 13 players per team have minimal padding, no helmets, play is continuous with only 12 interchanges involving 4 reserves allowed over two 40 minute halves.
Hopefully JL can get a copy to show the players what games mean to passionate players and fans when there is no more second chances.

Thanks Zack Greinke – for nothing.

Tracey’s comment about commentary on sports radio shows that Miguel’s drinking problem explains the difference between his hitting on the road and his hitting at home. Maybe, this will be the one game of the year where it is better for Miguel to be on the road. Surely, he will not go out drinking tonight. Being in Minnesota gives him a chance to be away from his wife and at this point that might be a good thing while things cool down. I may be totally wrong about that last point.

I’ve never consumed alcohol, but I know quite a bit about alchohol consumption and its effects based on my occupation, one in which I have frequently interacted with police officers that encounter individuals that are intoxicated. .26 is a VERY HIGH blood alcohol level. For someone to even be functioning at that level means they have a relatively high tolerance for alcohol and are a heavy drinker. Chronic alcoholics can function with levels above .30 and even above .40. Miguel apparently already has a serious drinking problem. A person who doesn’t drink or rarely drinks would not be functioning at .26. Miguel needs some help. I hope he gets it. He has the luxury of being able to afford the best help anywhere for his alcohol problem, a luxury most people with a drinking problem don’t have.

Maybe even more troubling is going out with White Sox players on Friday night. How on earth do you go out drinking with enemy. I think of the Oakland Raiders from the late 60’s to the early 80’s. A number of those players were partiers, famously so druing the days before Super Bowl XV in New Orleans (while the Eagles were being good boys). However, can you even begin to imagine any of those players ever going out drinking with players for the Eagles.

Great comments from someone named trendline using the name “posting comments following the MLive.com story about Miguel. The comments were as follows:
“The sad part is here you have the rest of his teamates mentally preparing getting ready for these games this weekend and one player in particular could care [sic] less. I feel sorry for the Tiger pitchers that were trying to battle against the players Miggy was buying drinks for the night before.”

There was also a comment by “cursepart2″ about Miguel drinking with the White Sox who laid down for everyone else but the Tigers.

MLive.com story: http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2009/10/reports_miguel_cabrera_parties.html.

Is there any choice but to play Cabrera tomorrow? If I was Leyland, I would play him.

The link to NRL (not ARL) is

http://www.nrl.com/

Tracey Huff, I was rereading the above blogs and am sorry I didn’t affirm your thoughts. Especially the last 2 paragraphs. Well said. Miguel needs help and prayer. All the money in the world can’t buy it.

Sounds like a plan Rich.

You know, the plan you’re going to suggest about investigating out trade targets in about 8 minutes.

I agree, Dave, it’s good to still be here discussing the season. In many ways, it’s been just as torturous as last year’s was, but I’ll miss it as soon as it’s over.
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Illioifan, interesting point about a team interfering with another team’s personnel. What’s the difference between allowing (or encouraging) an alcoholic youngster to drink, or just going all Tonya Harding and busting him in the knee with a bat? As I said earlier today, the entire business just smells bad, and the specter of Venezuelan Ozzie just makes it worse. This is where Bowie Kuhn’s “not in the best interest of baseball” comes in. I’m certain more details will be forthcoming with the passage of time. Regarding Cabrera himself, I don’t care if he plays tomorrow or not. If he has a monster game, he’ll have created a legendary story. If he falls flat, he’s going to take all the heat. More than likely, he’ll have an average game and the heavy lifting will be done by the usual suspects, such as Polanco, Ordonez, Raburn, and the bottom of the batting order.
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Interesting how MLB.com and MLB network is barely talking about it. Looks bad for the image, doesn’t it?
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By the way, how is it that we keep acquiring these damaged goods? Political nominations use a vetting process. Maybe we should hire some of those people to investigate our trade targets.
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–Rich

I refrain from talking about MCab tonight or tomorrow. This game (and The Game) is simply bigger than he is.
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I hope JL can motivate the troops tomorrow. Maybe he will go into that locker room and give them a real pep talk.
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Maybe something like this one:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ5YiQqrZCk&feature=player_embedded

…or anyone involved in our executive branch….
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sorry couldn’t resist.
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mike

I think Leyland should give this speech:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfyI3_-Idk
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–Rich

This all just leaves me sad and angry. Sad for Miguel, he apparently needs to grow up a huge amount, for anyone making this much money and having this much on his shoulders, to not realize the right way to handle yourself while in the biggest part of the year is just sad. It is his personal life, but if his personal problems affect his professional work, then it becomes more than personal. I think what bothers me the most is how it will affect his teammates – will they rally behind him and give him a break, or is this causing a divide, for the guys making a fraction of what he makes that bust their tails daily and rely on his support. We can’t go back and assume that his off field behavior this weekend and, it sounds like, throughout the season, has affected his play or not. If it has, then management has to make a serious decision about where Miguel belongs. He does seem to have lost his boyish love for the game, which is so so sad.

I hope the TEAM can ignore all of this and play well today, unfortunately this casts a huge shadow on our team and will be fixated on tonight on national TV, not the kind of things we want people to focus on us.

Come on boys, let’s regroup however works best for all the players, and try to keep our season going.

I will add one more comment – I can’t even imagine how horrible I would feel having my boss have to come get me from the police station. I hope Miguel feels the same way and uses that feeling to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

Chaminade vs. Virginia and Ralph Sampson.

United States vs. England in World Cup soccer in 1950.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_v_United_States_(1950)

I took a quick look around the ‘net to see how the wind was blowing. Our big story is getting very little play. I suppose if it doesn’t involve the Yankees, it isn’t important. Fine with me.
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The Game itself is being discussed and 99.9% of correspondence respondants (good name for a band) have picked the Twins. No surprise there. I guess the only thing that would have made us less likely to win was if the team plane had gone down, and we’d have heard about that if it had happened.
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Famous underdogs of the past:
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Bill Cosby’s Temple squad vs Hofstra.
Any team vs Duke in the first round of the NCAA’s.
Spartans vs Persia
Buffalo Bills vs the SuperBowl
Trevor Thompson vs Henrik Zetterberg
Rocky Balboa vs Apollo Creed
Jets vs Colts in SuperBowl III
Appalachian State vs Michigan
Villanova vs Georgetown
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Wait a minute……………….
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–Rich

Talking about underdogs, how about the 1980 “Miracle on Ice” US Olympic Hockey team and Herb Brooks’ very inspirational pre-game locker room speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CdJTfGiRCI&feature=player_embedded

My lineup options given that RHP Baker has had more success against LH hitters than RH hitters. Who knows what’s going to happen….. My guess is neither of these is even close. 1st one is a bit radical, 2nd is more conservative

Ramirez LF
Polanco 2B
Raburn 1B
Ordonez RF
Guillen or Thames DH
Granderson CF
Everett SS
Inge 3B
Laird C

or

Granderson CF
Polanco 2B
Raburn LF
Ordonez RF
Guillen or Thames DH
Huff 1B
Everett SS
Inge 3B
Laird C

Oh my gosh, can 5:00 get here already? Can’t stand the anticipation!

Tiger Girl, get back to work. Just kidding. Actually burying yourself in some job is the way to make the time fly quickly.
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Owen, good one with Chaminade. I’d forgotten that.
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Dan, your video of Brooks’ speech caused me to then view Kurt Russell’s adaptation from the movie, which led me to several rounds of hockey’s biggest hits, and on and on. Cost me about 15 minutes of worktime. So thanks, Buddy! :-)
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Marty, you know Cabrera has to play, right? I mean, really we know that. I’d run out
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Granderson
Polanco
Raburn
Cabrera
Ordonez
Thames (Guillen for PH duty)
Santiago
Inge
Laird
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–Rich

Still waiting for lineup thread… Our channel will show tiebreaker. Interesting that there are some people in my blog which wrote that they will support Tigers. Despite any frustrations not only Tiger fans trusts that Detroit can win. GO TIGERS!

Oh, the lineup guessing game, one of my favorites. Here is what I think the lineup will be
Granderson CF
Polanco 2B
Ordonez RF
Cabrera 1B
Guillen LF
Thames DH
Inge 3B
Laird C
Everett SS

There is no way Wilkin will do anything but pinch run. Huff is a slump. Thames destroys Baker. With Porcello pitching Everett will start for his glove. This is what we got, I think it is a winner. Look forward to watching a good game, too bad they are not playing in a baseball stadium.

Also, this weekends news about Miguel shows why people criticizing Leyland do not have a clue. This is a team with many flaws and to win 86 games is quite remarkable. This last couple weeks were a bit of a letdown, but please remember that the Twins played .800 baseball the last 3 weeks of the year. Enjoy the game tonight and GO TIGERS!

I don’t know, I predicted 82 wins at the close of spring training so I don’t see what’s so remarkable about it. Anyway, here is tonight’s actual lineup:
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1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Carlos Guillen, DH
6. Ryan Raburn, LF
7. Brandon Inge, 3B
8. Gerald Laird, C
9. Ramon Santiago, SS
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–Rich

That should have been the regular lineup for the last 3 weeks!

Yeah I knew that Rich. I was just venting my disappointment… So we both had Raburn in the 3 hole eh? Good choice. I like Santiago in there too. I didn’t have him in my lineup just based upon the intensity that Everett has been bringing lately. I feel confident with Adam in there. But it’s no secret that Ramon has always been one of my favorites so I’m just as pleased he’s starting. Looks as good as it can look I guess. Let’s get this thing going.

Surprised that he started Raburn over Thames, since Thames has hit Baker well. But a defensive upgrade with Raburn in LF and Guillen at DH. Raburn has been hot. I would like to see Raburn at 3B instead of Inge, but Ryan played himself out of that position. And Inge hit much better the last week.

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