Boras: Tigers getting Magglio of old

On the night Magglio Ordonez was set to get the final few plate appearances to guarantee his $18 million contract option for 2010, his agent pointed to Ordonez’s second half as a sign that the Tigers have a productive hitter coming, both for the final stretch this year and for next season.

“Magglio gives the Detroit Tigers in 2010 a lot of options,” agent Scott Boras said by phone Tuesday. “I think he’s going to be again having a very clear mind as he approaches 2010. I think Magglio will be the Magglio of old and will be producing like he’s been producing since the All-Star break.”

Ordonez entered Tuesday batting .364 since the All-Star break with a .959 OPS. His .521 slugging percentage in the seasons’ second half is higher than his .494 percentage from last year as well as his .512 career mark.

“The point we made all along is that Jim Leyland is a veteran manager,” Boras said. “He’s watched Magglio Ordonez for years. He knows what kind of hitter he is. And I think that Magglio went through a rough time personally. These guys are human beings.”

“Historically with great hitters, by playing them every day, they will come out of it.”

The option year was a key part of the contract Ordonez signed with Detroit as a free agent in January 2005. Because Ordonez was coming off knee surgery performed overseas, correcting a problem that limited him to half-season with the White Sox in 2004, the Tigers wanted to be protected in case Ordonez had more problems down the road, while Ordonez and Boras wanted long-term security.

“I think the key was we had begun a negotiation wanting a seven-year contract for Magglio,” Boras recalled, “and the club essentially responded with a five-year proposal. The way we bridged the gap to get a deal done was to put the performance bonuses in the contract.”

Asked if he felt like the option had been a distraction to Ordonez, Boras pointed to the numbers.

“You have to look at Magglio’s performance as the beginning of that question,” Boras said, “and he’s been performing extraordinarily well. He’s been getting offensive production.”

25 Comments

Boras is full of agent “speak”.
Ordonez may be hitting .500 this month but he has not been dominant in the clutch. Again tonight he had a couple of duck out there and couldn’t deliver. Granted he had a better AB tha Guillen did, who could have at least brought a run in and helped the cause a bit. When is the last time Guillen has had a hit? Not exactly tearing things up defensively either.
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Only a 2 inning stint for Miner. Thought they might try to stretch him out. First we get Fien if KC adds I wonnder if we wil see Ryan or Dlugach. Can’t believe I have been reduced to getting excited about rookies in a pennant race.
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Wonder if Bonderman will be considered to replace the gimpy trio of Washburn/Robertson/Galarraga?
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Yikes. 7-0 for the cellar dwellers now.

This is a horrible game. And if anyone can tell me why Miner didn’t stay out a bit longer having only thrown I think about 28 pitches I will never know.
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Regarding Ordonez he hit the ball real well it was just right at em. Fien isn’t real promising is he?? We will only be up by 4 1/2 by the end of the night. Crap.

Why is it the other guys drill the ball all over the yard?
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The only hope for our guys is to limp into the playoffs. I actually would not be surprised to see them go into a long ugly slump—if we are not in one already. Even the games we win we play poorly in.

Well, if we can get a couple runs here in the 5th inning, I think we could still be in the game.

GREAT JOB CABRERA, You have been killer. Just try to get a hit and stop swinging for the fences. He hasn’t been worth it this year. I bet if you look at guys with similar AB’s and averages he is among the worse with guys in scoring position. YUK

Looks like he is throwing in the towel. Thanks Leyland I am sure the people at the park feel like they are getting their moneys worth. And you tell me Fien can pitch three innings and Miner can’t?

Looks like he’s throwing in the towel.

Well, what else can Leland do. The big guys had their opportunity to get something going and couldn’t do it. At least let the fans see some of the “future” Tigers. Plus, they’re unknowns and maybe might run into one.

The worrisome thing about our team is that they can play so abysmally. If they are to limp into the playoffs how reasonable is it that we can expect a sharp turnaround and good sound baseball?
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This was , and has been, horrible baseball by our Tigers.

U-G-L-Y!!!! Go Cleveland. Go Seattle

I feel your pain Illinois. I mean I really do.
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There was NOTHING to be positive about tonight–nothing.
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It is almost unbelievable to see how poor the team can play and yet be a 1st place team. KC , as I mentioned earlier, looks like the ’27 Yankees when they play us. How in the world can a good team let that happen to them?
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Unless this debacle is reversed emphatically the next 2 days, I don’t see us even limping in.
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If we do indeed successfully limp—I must disagree about being in the playoffs. Anything can happen in a short series and guys (however implausible it may seem now) can get hot and carry the team. I have my fingers crossed that the limp works and then let the cards fall where they may.

I feel your pain Illinois. I mean I really do.
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There was NOTHING to be positive about tonight–nothing.
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It is almost unbelievable to see how poor the team can play and yet be a 1st place team. KC , as I mentioned earlier, looks like the ’27 Yankees when they play us. How in the world can a good team let that happen to them?
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Unless this debacle is reversed emphatically the next 2 days, I don’t see us even limping in.
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If we do indeed successfully limp—I must disagree about being in the playoffs. Anything can happen in a short series and guys (however implausible it may seem now) can get hot and carry the team. I have my fingers crossed that the limp works and then let the cards fall where they may.

Oh, gosh, if the Tigers make it to the playoffs, that’s a whole new ballgame. Anything can happen. We have 3 great pitchers and an offense that can get hot.

I feel your pain Illinois. I mean I really do.
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There was NOTHING to be positive about tonight–nothing.
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It is almost unbelievable to see how poor the team can play and yet be a 1st place team. KC , as I mentioned earlier, looks like the ’27 Yankees when they play us. How in the world can a good team let that happen to them?
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Unless this debacle is reversed emphatically the next 2 days, I don’t see us even limping in.
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If we do indeed successfully limp—I must disagree about being in the playoffs. Anything can happen in a short series and guys (however implausible it may seem now) can get hot and carry the team. I have my fingers crossed that the limp works and then let the cards fall where they may.

I am mostly at a loss of words anymore about these Tigers. They might “limp” into the playoffs simply because it doesn’t seem as though anyone else in their division is any better. However, if they play this way against the Twins and WSox, they are done. It doesn’t look promising when they just cannot beat the last place team in their division 4 games in a row now. I have been a Tiger fan now almost 60 years so please don’t take what I say next as being disloyal. I don’t want them to win the division. Right now very few baseball fans are paying attention to the Tigers but if they are in the playoffs the whole nation will be watching and thinking what a terrible team they are. We Tiger fans don’t need that. Am I being selfish? Does anyone think they could win even one game? There is no guaranteed win even with JV pitching as evidenced in Monday’s game. Do you think the Yankees, Red Sox, or Angels bullpens would allow what the Blue Jays bullpen did Monday night? I will still cheer for my Tigers but I am no longer going to let them put so much agony, frustration, anxiety, and stress on me as they have so far this year.

I feel your pain Illinois. I mean I really do.
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There was NOTHING to be positive about tonight–nothing.
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It is almost unbelievable to see how poor the team can play and yet be a 1st place team. KC , as I mentioned earlier, looks like the ’27 Yankees when they play us. How in the world can a good team let that happen to them?
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Unless this debacle is reversed emphatically the next 2 days, I don’t see us even limping in.
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If we do indeed successfully limp—I must disagree about being in the playoffs. Anything can happen in a short series and guys (however implausible it may seem now) can get hot and carry the team. I have my fingers crossed that the limp works and then let the cards fall where they may.

(By slowbyrne
Ordonez may be hitting .500 this month but he has not been dominant in the clutch. Again tonight he had a couple of duck out there and couldn’t deliver. )

AND – who was it in the 1st inning that opened the flood gates & set the tone for the game with his beautiful misplay of a line drive into a double??? He is a HUGE liability in the field!!!

Lee

I don’t know if you are disloyal, but maybe very frustrated. I personally didn’t think that they would win this game. Did I expect it to be an 11-1 loss well, no. They had some opportunity to at least make this look almost presentable. I think that what we have seen from this is that hopefully Washburn will not pitch anymore. Why they took him with that gimpy knee I will never know. We got snowed by Seattle.
I don’t know what choice Leyland has but to put Miner in the starting rotation.
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I also don’t understand why Trey Hillman is pilling on he has only made one sub, and still has all of his big guns in the game. Low class piling on as far as I am concerned.
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This starting rotation that was looking so good for so long, is looking tired. Jackson and Verlander who were money are looking tired and giving up a lot more hits and ultimately runs. I don’t know we might limp in, but I for one will be happy to be there. There will be 22 other teams that would love to be there. Think about that. who cares what other people think! Nobody thought the Tigers would beat the Yankees in 2006 and nobody thought St. Louis would beat us. And I beat most thought the Cubs would win last year. So keep a little faith.

Watch how fast things can change. The stupid graphic they put on about the Tigers going 10-9 and what Minny would have to do. The problem of course is how are the Tigers going to go 10-9?
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They have to play Minny, what, 6 times? And the sox. They can’t even bet the Royals and the Blu Jays–let’s face it –the Blu Jays beat themselves we didn’t do it.
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This team is in in trouble. They have no one hittting and the starters they have left are struggling. The bullpen is not reliable.
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I am afraid that we may end up in the end where we deserve to be.

I’m been trying, sklant. Believe me, I’ve been trying. The hitting has been terrible, led by Cabrera who has been leaving everyone on base. The starters do look worn down. Seattle dealt us damaged goods in Washburn. Leyland has refused to have Miner start. He’s not as good as JV, EJ, or RP but if he gives up 2 or 3 runs the hitting can’t overcome that. The bullpen has all but collapsed. Tomorrow we see Bonine who doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence and KC has another LHP going who the Tigers could not hit last week. Thursday they have to face Greinke. If he is on, they won’t hit him either. Another KC sweep? They did it in 2006. Then it’s on to Minnesota. They could be out of first place by Sunday.

Well, we should soon know if we have a team with guts or a team that can’t handle the pressure. Even though it is KC it is indeed, crunch time.

After watching Leyland’s postgame presser, I’ll have to say I’ve never seen him this way. All the arrogance gone, and he actually seemed confused. All his answers regarding Washburn were “I don’t know” and his riff on not knowing anything about the medical stuff is tough to hear from the manager of a sports team. The only time he looked comfortable was when he slid into the old tried and true “momentum is only as good as the next day’s pitcher” spiel.
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Well, his stuff ain’t working. Continuing to run an obviously injured Captain Ahab Washburn out there is suicidal, since the dude is incapable of even keeping us in the game past the first inning. He made the correct move by bringing in Miner in the second inning, but then only used him for two innings instead of leaving him out there as an “alternate starter” and seeing if we could get back in the game. Now, maybe he has plans to start Miner earlier than next Sunday, and that’s the only thing that would make sense of how he managed tonight. At any rate, asking the one-legged Captain Washburn of the Pequod “can you go tonight” is not how to base the decision of whether to start him. This was just a bad trade and even Luke French would have been better than Whalebone Washburn.
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I also saw the graphic that demonstrated how easily the Tigers will clinch the division. As with most stats, it doesn’t tell the whole story. You have to take into account the massive amount of head to head games left, seven with Minnesota alone. Assuming we’ll go 10-9 is foolish. We can’t assume that at all. There’s not one player on our team that can be counted on from game to game. Every pitcher we face seems to be one that has the Tigers’ number. Worse still, our manager really doesn’t know what to do. His refusal to take Miner from the bullpen to the rotation may be our undoing, in fact, it may already be too late. If there is a massive collapse, we’re seeing it right now, not two weeks from now.
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I never dreamed I could feel this badly about a team in the position we’re in at this point in the season. But you all see the games, you all see the same things I do. Maybe we’ll look back on this and say we were all foolishly reactionary, but I don’t think that’s the case.
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In any case, if we do win the division, I’ll celebrate as much as if we’d won 115 games.
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As I finish writing this, the Twins win.
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–Rich

I feel your pain too Rich.
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You are right about no one stepping up. In fact everyone seems to be taking turns being downright brutal. Verlander loses composure in 1` inning and should have lost the game. EJ throwing 2-1 and 3-1 fastballs over and over and over again. Rodney, Inge , Granderson, Guillen, MCab, Ordonez, Raburn, Seay—just about everbody seems to be dreadful at times when they need to be consistent.
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I don’t want to watch Dlugach, Ryan, Fien this year.
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If JL needs to sit some of his favorites then he darn well should. We need a game-changer in there.
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Right now even I agree that Ordonez has to be in the lineup. Do I think he will rediscover his power? No, I don’t but we won’t know if he is on the bench and who else is going to supply some life into the lineup? Thomas? Nlo. Someone once said he looks like a deer in the headlights. He is a deer in the headlights right now. He cn’t bring anything to the table offensively. He’s lost.
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Granderson? Face it, we are stuck with him too. Hopefully he remembers to inject his team with some energy like he used to. Guillen, forget about it. He is not a savior. I don’t give a hoot if he is a LHB. He’s not going to help us out of this mess.
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MCab has to become the elite hitter everyone pretends he already is. He’s not. But we need him to—starting tomorrow.
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Minny is clutching up as we speak. Forget they lost one of the most feared sluggers in the game. Foreget they lost Joe Crede. They know how to play together and how to clutch up and take advantage of opportunities.
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We need Verlander, Jackson to be dominant. We need Porcello to overachieve. We need Lyon to excel as our new closer and we need guys like Huff and Thames and maybe even Ramirez to fire us up.
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I have said this before–this team is in trouble. And if they fade once more at the end of the year again I can’t envision how many fans they will lose if JL is allowed to fake his way through to another season.
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Never mind he seems confused, he has confused others. He has sent out confusing messages, quotes and signals to his players all year long.
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This team is breaking their fans’ hearts.

Leland never talks about a player’s injuries. Now, that’s pretty well documented. He’s always been that way. The Tigers better rebound for Ernie’s farewell tomorrow night. I don’t worry about specific pitchers with this team. They can face an “ace” and win the game. The next day, they can face someone with an ERA 5.50 and look like chumps. They have to maintain their confidence and play good baseball.

To “slowbyrne”:
I’ve also been a Tiger fan for at least 60 years. I agree with everything you said. I’m to the point I just DON’T care anymore!!! They should be embarressed the way that they are playing(?), AND, they should be embarressed to collect their paychecks!!! That also goes for JL.

Lee

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