Granderson rests, as expected

Jim Leyland talked Wednesday about resting Curtis Granderson against Cleveland lefty Cliff Lee for Friday’s series opener, and he’s following through on that. Ryan Raburn will lead off, while Josh Anderson — the lone left-handed hitter in the lineup tonight — plays center and bats ninth. Magglio is back in the lineup against the lefty starter.

TIGERS

  1. Raburn, LF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Cabrera, 1B
  4. Thames, DH
  5. Inge, 3B
  6. Ordonez, RF
  7. Laird, C
  8. Everett, SS
  9. Anderson, CF

P: Jackson

INDIANS

  1. Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
  2. Grady Sizemore, CF
  3. Victor Martinez, C
  4. Shin-Soo Choo, LF
  5. Travis Hafner, DH
  6. Jhonny Peralta, 3B
  7. Ryan Garko, RF
  8. Luis Valbuena, 2B
  9. Kelly Shoppach, C

P: Cliff Lee

54 Comments

Jackson is due for some solid run support tonight. I hope and think he will get it.

Bad Move. Zumaya ain’t ready for prime time. If he walks the leadoff guy they should take him out.

Well, techinically he did walk the leadoff guy and they took him out.. Probably really fortunate it happened the way it did. If he had walked him normally and didn’t have the finger problem it would have been a very dangersous situation. Not sure why he was brought in at all under those circumstances but especially if they knew he had a wonky finger.

Do the Tigers not realize there should be some kind of correlation with mound visits during a closer’s appearnace?
If you have to have your manager or coach come out all the time when you pitch it should indicate that you don’t have a good enough closer.

Agreed with taking Zumaya out if he walked first batter. Don’t have access to video so can’t see what happened after the first two pitches. Zumaya is not reliable. Leyland does not have a true closer on this team.

And that fact still needs to be addressed. It has been feathered over so far this year but you are playing a fool’s game if you think you can get by a full season like that.
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A close needs to throw strikes, he needs to put batters on the defense. He can’t have a fastball that doesn’t work for him and he can’t keep putting pressure on his defense.
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When Rodney is ‘on’ he is pretty to watch. However, the infrequency and unpredicability of that is a serious concern.

Another gem by Jackson. We are getting used to him twirling these things.

I was about to say the same thing, Dan. I’ve never in all my years seen a closer who needed a pitching coach visit every single outing. All of Rodney’s appearances are bizarre.
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I don’t know why JL removed Jackson when he did, since he was doing just fine, and I don’t know why he didn’t just start the 8th with Seay after lifting Jackson. And……..how did Zumaya injure this thumb? Suspicious, if you know what I mean.
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So many of us over the years have urged JL to keep Thames in the lineup and we’re seeing why. Just when you think he’s not getting it done, he hits a huge homer for the team. It takes the ol’ coot a long time to come around, sometimes years.
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–Rich

Rich, do you think Leyland doesn’t like starting pitchers going much over a pitch count of 100 pitches? In college baseball, it is not uncommon for head coaches to limit starting pitchers to 100 pitches or a little more.

I have actually appreciated the fact that Leyland did not use up Justin’s arm by having him throw too many pitches too early in his career. I am also glad that Leyland has not allowed Porcello to obtain high pitch counts in the games he has pitched. However, with 110 pitches thrown, I think Jackson should have remained for one more inning.

Good win tonight. Every game Rodney comes in it scares the you know what out of me. You never know what you are going to get with him.

just got back from the game. Whew!!! That one wasn’t without stress, that is for sure. I couldn’t disagree with you all more, I thought that Jackson should of come out at that point. No reason to push it with anyone, in my humble opinion.
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I remember three or four games ago Zumaya seemed to be having trouble with his finger another game. My guess it is a blister problem. I was thinking about Rodney and even when he isn’t having his best game, the batters never look real comfortable at the plate against him even when and maybe especially when he is off. RODNEY
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Well good win against a tough pitcher. GO TIGERS
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GK

It appeared to me that Jackson was in no way weakening and could have carried on into the 8th. Of course, it’s also in my mind that Zumaya is not trustworthy enough to come into that game. I have Jackson start out then go to the situational guys if needed. Which is what happened anyway. JL said he thought Jax was spent, so that’s that.
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Owen, I think it’s partly pitch count and, for some reason, 100 seems to have become some magic number. There is, however, a big difference in the number of pitches thrown under stress vs without stress. I think another reason for pulling starters is that managers (not just JL) have it in their heads that they must use their bullpen. That seems a little crazy to me because anytime you bring in a new pitcher, you don’t know what you’re going to get. I’d prefer to stay with the guy who’s dominating, in tonight’s case, that would be Jackson.
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But we’re dwelling on a point that isn’t an issue for tonight. A win is a win. Good to see the Twins beat the Sox, as I’d prefer to see our rivals win their home games when they’re going head to head.
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Is anyone ready for the Tigers to win in a blowout? These games have been so close, I need an All-Star break myself.
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–Rich

Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t thrilled and put my head in my hands when I saw that it was Zumaya warming up. But I will stick with what I said to me it wasn’t like he only had 100. If that were the case I would of said keep him in. But he had I believe more like 112 at that point so that is a big difference. And in my opinion there is no reason to put that much pressure on his arm. And I feel even though like they only got a few hits on him and only two walked his ball to strike ratio was horrible and I felt like it was a ticking time bomb. Probably wrong.

A good win to get now 3 on the trot. The guys didn’t look like they are pressing as much. I felt today was more a case of good pitching by Lee keeping us down to 7 timely hits for 5 runs – 3 of 7 RISP as against the Indians 0 for 9.
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Unfair the error was given to Inge – Miggs was either downright lazy or has tight hamstrings he was protecting as that throw should not have made the dirt. I hope Maggs lost that flyball in the air as he hardly had to move to make a catch.
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I really felt for Jackson having to watch the bullpen’s inability to throw a fastball strike walking 4 and getting into and out of jams. Ulcers anyone??
JL kept getting Lyon up in the 7th (with Dolsi) and 9th. Would have preferred either Lyon or Seay in place of Zoom and Rodney for that matter. JL seems to like using L&S as late innings insurance to get out of jams. I’m surprised GK left using Rodney in a non-save situation go thru to the keeper.
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Pitching backed up with speed and defense keeps saving our bacon. Now 9 games over .5, we are 4th of 14 in pitching on 4.11; 4th in fielding on .986 and only 11th hitting .258.
In 2008, 5th in hitting on .271 with little speed had no chance of overcoming 12th in pitching on 4.90 and 13th fielding on .981 ending up 14 games below .500.
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Talking save and hold situations, it seems to me incongruous that setup pitchers get awarded either a Hold or Blown Save with a Save/Save Opportunity only given to a Closer finishing the game. I would have thought a “Blown Hold” classification is more useful.

Rodney does not do it pretty, but he gets it done most of the time and with the break coming up JL will pitch him in the ninth all series if there is not a blow out. You have to keep going with him as the closer.

Jackson is a horse and has pitched great. I think that with a four run lead it was the right move to take him out. Jackson as a teamate is impressive when you watch him on the bench. He really seem to have a great time and keeps others around him laughing. DD needs to start working on his and JV’s next contract. Those two should anchor the top of the rotation for the next 8-10 years.
Mark

Jackson had 110 pitches. I’d like to think a healthy starter at mid-season who’s breezed through the game can throw more pitches than that. There’s no rule that says you couldn’t have lifted him in the middle of the 8th inning if need be. Bringing Zumaya into a 3-1 game was just asking for disaster but everyone is happy because the game was won.
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Joel was well on his way to another erratic and ineffective outing when this cut thing came up. I’d like to know how you can cut the thumb of your pitching hand by swiping against your glove on the follow through, as JL said. He had that cut several days ago. Playing the toy guitar again? Don’t want to be mean, but the kid brought this suspicion on himself. Pete Townshend used to tear his hand to shreds doing those windmills, but Pete Townshend wasn’t a big league pitcher. At any rate, Zumaya is not the man for these spots, not till he gains consistency.
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There are actually people who are saying that Rodney should never pitch in a non-save situation. Think about it, he wouldn’t get into many games if was used only in save situations, so he wouldn’t be very effective in that case.
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Just my opinion on things.
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–Rich

Granderson is back . And Thomas is starting as announced

I guess I am not up to speed on Zumaya and the guitar. There are some bits of Tigers’ news I miss here in Tennesee.

if the play is actually not even close at first base… it has to at least appear to be a tie which goes to the runner… how do you blow that call?

Rodney was used all 3 days against KC throwing over 60 pitches. The way our offense has been, all games seem to be tight affairs. We are an amazing 30-17 for games decided by 3 runs or less this season..
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Rodney of course is our closer and will remain so whilst he continues to stay on his knife egde save run. Whilst successful, it has been excruciating watching backed up by his stats – an ERA of 8.0 for Late Innings of CLose Games and a 5.93 ERA when Ahead in Count and 0.87 when Behind in Count. I feel sorry for his couch analyst!!
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Games like last night with a 4 run lead represented an opportunity to blood another pitcher for late innings with Lyon or Rodney there as insurance. Dolsi could be groomed into a reliable setup pitcher. He has never been afraid to throw a strike and got 4 saves at AAA and given up only 1 HR in 38 IP this season.

yeah dave.. i didn’t understand bringing him in.. it wasn’t like he needed work.. he wasn’t warming up before the tigers spread the lead to 4 runs.. what’s the point.. you know he’s terrible in non-save situations.

I like todays team – balanced, speed, great defense and represents both today and the future.
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Hopefully no more GIDP’s tonight!!

Nice moving taking the bat out of Brandon’s hands on the attempt to steal home.

Hitting 11th in the league for .258, we have to protect runners, particularly on 0 outs. Two more GIDP take us to 83 this year, 5 more than any other team.

you let carl fricken pavano throw 8 innings….
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only 3 hits in his final 6 innings….
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are you serious?

I will post in the 9th so hopefully they will put egg on my face. We have not had double digit hits in a game in July apart from the 16 innings game. 7 hits seems our magic number.

When you know a team has a horrific pen, why wouldn’t you try at least a little bit try to get into that pen. No they don’t work any counts they squandered the opportunities they did have, and really didn’t perform as they should of all the way around. And I swear if I am told to tip any caps to a horrible team and a bad pitcher I swear I will reach through the screen and rip Rod and Marios heads off. (I hate that saying).
They lost because they were impatient and they lost because every hit they got was a freaking double. Oh well, they better not lose on Sunday. Carl Pavano is not that good, our hitters were just that bad.

Yep, another pitcher with an ERA north of 5.0 makes us look like chooks.
Even Kerry couldn’t blow that one!! I remember this Blog wanting us to go all out to get him costing the Indians $20.5m for 2 years. It definitely to date has not paid off for them.

Leyland just ripped Galarraga a new one for walking Sizemore, Martinez and Choo to set up Hafner’s single. Said he pitched to all three of them like they were Babe Ruth. Well maybe he has a valid point, but I have to point out that Sizemore hit a triple to start it, he didn’t walk. So after making that tirade on TV, JL may owe Mondo an apology. He did go after Sizemore and got burned. But JL sees things in his own little world, it appears. He’s so sure that Galarraga pitches away from contact, he imagined that Sizemore walked instead of smacking a triple. And one of those media people should have pointed that out instead of going along with it.
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On Hafner’s bases loaded single, Raburn did everything but hang onto the ball after hitting the ground. He had the play made and it was a good one, we were just unlucky there. He hangs on and it’s an entirely different ballgame.
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While it’s true that our guys can’t hit anybody, Pavano did pitch a good game, like it or not. They couldn’t work the count to get into their bullpen because Pavano threw 1st pitch strikes to 25 of 28 hitters. If anything, they should have gone after the first pitch more. After that first strike, Pavano was throwing strikes in unhittable locations. I think our hitters stink too, but sometimes the opposing pitcher has a lot to do with it.
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Granderson is doing absolutely nothing offensively and we’d be better off with Thomas at leadoff for the time being. Grandy needs to be somewhere like 3rd where he’d hit more aggressively. Cabrera is not doing damage when it’s needed the most. And we need homers to get more than 3 runs.
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We haven’t won a blowout since Memorial Day. These guys need some more relaxing games, or they’ll wear out. It’s exciting baseball, sure, but you need a laugher from time to time. I doubt we’ll do much with Ohka tomorrow either. Other than the woeful offense, this club is playing excellent baseball.
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–Rich

Laird agreed with Leyland that Galarraga got too tentative in the 3rd. Seems to me that’s when you go out to the mound and light a fire under his butt. Don’t wait till after the game to say so. Mondo ain’t Jackson, he needs help during a game.
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–Rich

Well you are right, about Mondo needing help during the game and Mondo also kept on shaking Laird off and in fact the pitch that Hafner hit he shook him off. But he kept on throwing that same pitch that wasn’t at all enticing and he wasn’t even throwing it close to the strike zone.
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And Rich while I agree that sometimes it is the pitcher, in this case they got themselves out. And I watch team after team foul off pitch after pitch (and good pitches) to get our pitchers pitch count up and it works. This team doesn’t do that. And then I wonder why Pavano has a 5+ era if he is that good. I think our hitters were that bad.

Comment by Rich:
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Remind you of anyone? Todd Jones, maybe. Everytime he came in (like Rodney) it looked like a “Chinese Fire Drill” on the bases! Keep a lot of nerve pills close by.

Am I the only one that thinks that the Arby’s commercial (during the Tigers games) is too hilarious for words: “if the Tigers hit 3 or more homers during the game – bring in the box score for a free Arby’s”. WOW – the bargain of the century – what’s that worth – a buck. Wouldn’t come close to paying for the gas. Least they could give a dinner.

Yes – bad luck on that fly ball to left field – but he gave it his all. Unlike Maggs.

To the person who stated that we should stop “ragging” on Mags – remember the saying: “what have you done for us lately”. Especially with his ENORMUS paycheck.

Lee

Comment by Rich:
All of Rodney’s appearances are bizarre.

(The above somehow was lost in my 1st submission.)

Remind you of anyone? Todd Jones, maybe. Everytime he came in (like Rodney) it looked like a “Chinese Fire Drill” on the bases! Keep a lot of nerve pills close by.

Am I the only one that thinks that the Arby’s commercial (during the Tigers games) is too hilarious for words: “if the Tigers hit 3 or more homers during the game – bring in the box score for a free Arby’s”. WOW – the bargain of the century – what’s that worth – a buck. Wouldn’t come close to paying for the gas. Least they could give a dinner.

Yes – bad luck on that fly ball to left field – but he gave it his all. Unlike Maggs.

To the person who stated that we should stop “ragging” on Mags – remember the saying: “what have you done for us lately”. Especially with his ENORMUS paycheck.

Lee

BAH! you must not have been to arbys.. in your life.. a regular roast beef sandwich is 2.79 around here.

Fernando Rodney……………..is nothing like Todd Jones. Todd Jones knew what he was doing out there. I never had a problem with him, unlike 99.9% of Tiger fans. He didn’t need a pitching coach, he was his own pitching coach. I know everone wants to party through a 1-2-3 9th, but that’s not realistic. Jones got it done for many years. Rodney is working on half a season of success, and a bizarre one at that.
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The funny thing about the Arbys promotion is that this club rarely gets more than three runs, much less three homers.
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Re: last night’s game. It’s a great reminder of the disadvantage we have with our central opponents. Minny, Cleveland and even KC, and to a lesser extent the Sox, usually overload their lineups with lefty hitters. We don’t have that convenience. Thus, our four righty starters must be super aggressive. Verlander and Jackson meet that challenge genuinely. Porcello is finding his way through. Mondo has been tentative at best, and last night was the best example of that unwillingness to go after a team. We are going to have to take it to Minnesota all the way to the end. That lefty lineup is not going away. G-Man must take it up a notch or step aside. No other team in baseball, I dare say, has suffered more this year because of the free bases that we feel compelled to offer. That’s the success of the Twins, and must happen for us to be successful. Verlander will go after Cleveland today. If he’s on, they won’t touch him. But I truly, am tired of G-Man wading through, afraid to throw the ball, anywhere but on the outside of the plate.
Greg

Arby’s had the same promotion during hockey season for a hat trick ( and as many of you probably know the Wings didnt’ have one hat trick). I think there has been about 4 or 5 times this spring that we have gotten three or more homeruns..
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Hoping for better results today.
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GO TIGERS.

can anyone say SAC FREAKING FLY. That is a sin a runner at third and no outs and you strand him. That is inexcusable

*can anyone say SAC FREAKING FLY. That is a sin a runner at third and no outs and you strand him. That is inexcusable*

That’s exactly what I was cussing about. What?………….a pop up – an infield drippler……jeez. Even a ground ball on the right side of the infield would have brought in the run.

*BAH! you must not have been to arbys.. in your life.. a regular roast beef sandwich is 2.79 around here. *

Jeez – I was just being facetious. I’ve eaten there many times.

*The funny thing about the Arbys promotion is that this club rarely gets more than three runs, much less three homers.*

Oh, oh – guess we’ll have to eat those words today, eh.
I sure was pulling for Thomas to get the double he needed. He DID hit the ball hard, though……just on the ground not in the air. He’s been a breath of fresh air!!!
Offensively AND defensively.

By the way – I’m 71 years young – so as a Tiger fan I’ve seen the good, the bad & the ugly (think current bullpen – who can’t seem to throw strikes). I turned the game off today when they went to the bullpen. I see where it turned out to be a “Chinese Fire Drill” AGAIN with Miner allowing Cleveland’s only run with a bases loaded walk. JEEZ!!! Hey, I could do that for a heck of a LOT LESS money

Lee

Gee, a 10 run almost shut out feels good to finish the first half.
Zach is fast becoming an away field specialist. He has a 7.4 ERA / .33 Avge at Home and a 3.14 ERA / .257 Avge Away this season, consistent with his career stats of 5.52 / .306 Home and 3.14 / .239 Away.
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JL over the past few weeks has started to settle on a regular starting lineup with Raburn and Thames looking like they can do it on a regular basis even from the DH spot. If Thomas can keep it going, the defensive bonus in right field will be huge.
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Quite incredible we have a 3 and a half game lead when, apart from Miggs, you look at the career low offensive numbers of the original top five in driving in runs. Curtis is hitting .221 RISP / .231 LICG; Polly .256 / .211; Miggs .286 / .393; Maggs .310 / .158 and Carlos .188 / .333.
Inge is .321 RISP / .265 LICG; Thames .267 / .294; Raburn .286 / .333; Everett .246 / .095; Laird .239 / .235; Thomas .393 / .20; Santiago .324 / .20; Anderson .333 / .250 and Larish .05 / 0.0.

Rodney and Zoom are quite some late innings guys we have. Whilst their 3.92 & 4.20 ERA’s and 20 saves looks impressive, their stats under pressure have been mind boggingly bad.
Zoom has a 15.0 ERA / .561 batting avge for LICG (8th innings anyone??) with a 9.35 ERA / .39 avge for RISP. When ahead in the count he has a 0 ERA / .17 avge and when he is behind, it all heads south with a 14.54 ERA / .707 avge – I kid you not. The stats confirm what we were going thru watching!!
Rodney isn’t much better with a 8.00 ERA / .40 for LICG and 10.13 / .30 for RISP.
Cardiac arrests have to have gone up in Detroit this year!!
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Seay and Lyon also have had problems for RISP with 11.05 / .323 & 9.42 / .387. They have respectable stats for LICG with 4.70 / .258 & 4.22 / .295. They are also not the long term answer other than setup roles.
Dolsi and Ni and hopefully a more composed Perry comeback are options JL appears to be in the justifiable process of evaluating.

I was away this afternoon but watched the game later. I asked for a blowout and we got one. I asked for a 3-run homer and we got that. I asked for more homers and we got those too. Okay. Homers make up for a lack of disciplined offense, as we left yet another runner stranded at 3rd early. Earl Weaver baseball, good pitching and 3-run homers.
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BTW Lee, I know you’ve posted before but a belated welcome.
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I think that Clete Thomas will still have ups and downs, but his downs will become shorter and less numerous. That is, as long as he continues to play hard and not Cadillac it. I think Joyce fell prey to that. I foresee Clete holding down an outfield job for years to come and we can spend the big bucks elsewhere. Just give him the chance.
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Marcus went 4 for 4, how about that? Man, if we can ever get the “big bats” going, we’ll be in good shape.
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Verlander didn’t have that drop off the table curve early, but he found it later and became unhittable. When he’s got all three pitches going, he really is a no-hitter waiting to happen. Very impressive, Justin. GK, I remember you and I agreeing in April that every JV start was expected to be a loss. :-) Nice turnaround.
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IMO, Leyland’s handling of Miner has had a negative effect on his performance. For some reason, it seems that more is expected from Zach than the other pitchers. I’ve come to the conclusion that they should just trade him, get some value back, and let Zach further his career in a more friendly environment. Maybe I’m dead wrong about this, but it’s how I’m seeing it.
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So here we are at the break with a four-game lead in the loss column. We’ve been here before and things have gone south. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen this time.
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–Rich

Dave, LICG is what, late in close game? They have a stat for that too? :-)
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I think that Seay and Lyon’s numbers are skewed from early season appearances and that they’ve both become very dependable lately. In fact, if I had to choose a closer to replace Rodney today, it would by Lyon. He is actually the one most similar to Todd Jones, and everyone would cardiac out, but he’d get it done enough of the time. I have no confidence whatsoever in the current version of Zumaya. This is the third consecutive season that I’ve urged the club not to depend on him, but they keep doing it.
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WOW – Dave you’re quite the statitician!!!

*BTW Lee, I know you’ve posted before but a belated welcome.*
Thanks Rich. As I mentioned I’m 71 & have been a Tigers fan for probbly at least 60 of those years. One thing I’ll never forget is listening to the radio as a teenager & hearing Kaline hit the two homers in the same inning (I think it was his rookie year). That was the Afflack question in a game last year – so I knew the answer. The question was other the current Tiger (& I forget who – senior moment) who had two homers in the same inning – who was the other? Kaline, of course.

*Marcus went 4 for 4, how about that? Man, if we can ever get the “big bats” going, we’ll be in good shape.*

Yeah – Tiges are getting most of their run production from the lower part of the batting order.

*I think that Seay and Lyon’s numbers are skewed from early season appearances *

Yeah especially Lyon with the two (I think) grandslams he gave up earlier.

I got a kick when Rod Allen said today that Verlander actually said something to him – on a game day. Then he added that JV told him, in the parking lot, that he parked to close to JV’s “sport” car. They both got a laugh over that.

Lee

Rich – you called it! I didn’t get to see any of the games this weekend, but loved seeing the score from Sunday – about time we had a rout like that! Good for Inge, Thomas and Thames – glad Thames has been so hot lately, he needs to be when he follows Cabbie so they stop walking him so much!

Enjoy the break, but I am excited to watch Brandon tonight. I usually don’t get into watching the home run derby, but I know he’ll be having a lot of fun, so I’ll be watching – glad to see he is getting his recognition.

And can’t complain with our standings and record at this point in the season – we have some shining starts, sometimes we just don’t have them all shining at the same time, but when we do it is a thing of beauty – gosh I love this team and this game!

Well here are my feeling about Miners performance yesterday. In my opinion there was one guy that he didn’t walk but in that particular at bat he was (well how do I say it) screwed. Well that being said he was really erratic. But I really think that had more to do with the fact that he hadn’t pitched in 7 days. Relief pitchers can’t have that. So while the shutout would of been nice in this particular case I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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GO INGE

As I was watching Zach pitch the 9th yesterday, I couldn’t help but feel sorry for him and at the same time was thinking that it was probably the last time we may see him in a Tiger uniform. A 10 run lead and you get lifted. Leyland had to go get him, there really wasn’t anything he could do—Zach just couldn’t find the strike zone. I really like Miner. I was hoping he could be the fifth starter for this team. He was given a shot in Spring Training. Had, I believe, 4 regular season starts. But just didn’t show enough to warrant going out there every 5 days. Rich, I know you believe that Zach has a starter’s mentality and not a reliever’s. That might be true. Some guys just don’t adjust well to going to the pen. It’s situations like yesterday, where pretty much all you have to do is throw strikes and let the hitters get themselves out that have been Zach’s undoing. I agree that maybe it’s time to trade Zach. Maybe he’ll find success elsewhere. I would hate to see this develop into another Jason Grilli situation.

–Ed

I thought Miner did pretty well in his April starts. JL, however, just couldn’t wait to get him back into the bullpen to get all those thousands of doubleplays (yeah that was sarcasm). A starter can not have his good stuff at the outset, give up 2 or 3 runs, then settle down and turn it into a quality start. A reliever giving up 2 or 3 runs is a disaster. Zach’s a starter and has been mishandled. I don’t want him to be traded but if JL is going to be here forever, as it appears, there’s no place for Zach on this team. The potential problem there is if French fails and a 5th starter is needed. But I’m sure Miner would go into the rotation of almost any other club and do well.
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I have two diverse opinions of the homerun derby. For one, it’s silly and boring to have 3 hours of guys hitting juiced up balls into the seats and I can watch that for about 45 minutes. On the other hand, it’s fun to watch the players from different teams joke around with each other and have their kids there with them. That’s why I watch for 45 minutes. I hope Brandon has fun (I’m sure he will) and is done after one round. Other than that, I have other plans.
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–Rich

Lryland seems to have a credibility issue with Miner. I don’t think Miner will be given much opportunity at anything barring an injury. There are players on this team that probably have more value in trade leverage than they do on the field. Miner is one, Zumaya, Anderson are others. I would imagine we might see one or more of them wrapped up in a trade.
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If the Tigers weren’t relying so heavily on their starting rotation to get them through, I could also see G-Man being dangled. But with Bonderman being questionable this year and maybe beyond, they would be wise to “fix” him and keep him.
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Ordonez could end up getting released. The best you hope for is perhaps a salary swap but that seems unlikely. Perhaps Magglio benefits from the break here and reinvents himself in the 2nd half of the season, but JL may be content just to keep platooning him. I’m sure that would make DD happy as that would probably be enough ABs to keep him from vesting that option.
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It’s hard to imagine what kind of record this club might have if the top of the lineup was hitting .300 instead of .250
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MCab may be another guy who benefits from the break. Seems a trifle bizarre that Granderson makes the AS squad ahead of MCab doesn’t it?
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I look at Miner and Armando being similar pitchers. Low 90′s fastball, sinker and slider pitchers that if they have control they do well. They both have periods of inconsistancy that keep them as back of the rotation guys. It would probably be best to trade one of them. Minor has to get consistant work for his sinker to work. Anderson, Thomas or Rayburn will have to go when Carlos is ready. I think you could package any of the above player, except Thomas as his potential is on the upside of the others, in a trade. Anderson has no options, but I would keep Raburn and Thomas at this point. I would like to see Thomas as the everyday right fielder and rest him against the tough lefthanders. When Carlos is back use him, Marcus and Maggs in the DH and leftfield spots. Thomas has a great arm and range for right field.
Looking forward to a strong second half.
Mark

Hi Rich,Dan,Dave,Tiger Girl and all the rest of the Tiger fans here.Great to see you all bloggin still.Just got back to town again and miss Jasons blog a lot. Been following the Tigers this year from xfm…….Love the switch in strategy for a more defense oriented team…….Feel like we have a chance now every game…….Still believe we should move Guillen anywhere but Detroit….Let Marcus dh, he has earned it. Carlos was a great player for us, but never has been able to throw well, has always had limited range, and needs to hit 300/20/100 to offset his poor play in the field.Raburn will outhit him for power.Thomas will outhit him and has the potential to be an above average fielder…Love our starting rotation.Hope we keep Zach……Heard Gallaragas slider is starting to come back.Hope so……Heard rumors that Tor. is interested in a Porcello/Halladay exchange….Hope we keep R ick long term….I really like him….Anyway, this year has been a lot more fun than the last 2. Keep it rolling Tigers……..Bruce

Hi Bruce, nice to hear from you.
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As much as any team would salivate at having Halladay in their rotation, you don’t let Porcello go as he’s obviously the real deal. I’m seeing that the Tigers have something special going on here with the starting rotation. They’re all young. You have Verlander, Jackson, Porcello, then the possibilities of Galarraga, Miner, French and Bonderman, and you have what could be a dominant rotation for years to come. The other pieces can be fit in around it. Heck, you could even put Zumaya on that list of potential starters.
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Guillen will have to replace somebody. Thomas, Raburn and Thames have earned their spots so that leaves Anderson. They may release Ordonez but I’m not seeing that happening. As far as who plays where and when, Leyland will have to find something that works and about 50% of the fans will be unhappy with it at any given time. You can bet on that.
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While the subject is the roster, why is Dusty Ryan just riding the pine? This does him no good and they may as well have kept Dane here and let Dusty continue to develop. I had assumed that Ryan was being brought in to provide a bat, but he’s not playing at all. What’s up with that?
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Somebody needs to write a little song about Ryan Raburn, Dusty Ryan, and Ryan Perry……………
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–Rich

It was driving me nuts (& I don’t have far to go) who, besides Kaline, had 2 homers in one inning. So……………I googled (they always have the answer). Of ALL people it was Mags in Aug. of ’07 against Oakland. Hard to believe he hit 2 in one inning & what does he have now – for half a season? Four? I’m sorry, there I go picking on him again. As far as Miner the Tiges should trade him to a team where he can be a starter. That’s where he belongs. Lee

Ryan Perry should be back soon and provide relief help. I would bet on him being the closer next year. Zoom has not shown the make up to be a closer.

Laird starting hitting as soon as Dusty was brought up and I have been saying all along that they should have kept him at AAA. He needs to work on hitting the curve and his catching skills. He has the arm and can hit a fastball, but riding the bench does not help him at all. We can afford Dane’s bat once a week to have his receiving skills. I would like for him to catch JV.

Halladay would be a nice addition, but too costly from what you have to give up and the contract you would have to pay him. I would rather lock up Jackson and Verlander. The AA roster is loaded with pitching potential and could certainly provide bullpen or back end rotation help next year.
Mark

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