Tigers All-Star voting party tonight

One day after the Detroit mayoral election, it’s a get-out-the-vote effort of a whole other sort. The Tigers are inviting fans to meet at Bookies Bar and Grille downtown for an All-Star voting party tonight from 7-11 p.m. They’ll provide wireless internet access for online voting as well as paper ballots. You just bring your votes for Tigers players. It’ll also be a game-watching party on TV once the Tigers-White Sox game begins at 8:11 p.m. There’ll be food and drink specials plus  giveaways, with the grand prize of two Tigers game ticket with Champions Club access.

Bookies Bar and Grille is located at 2208 Cass, near Columbia.

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Wish I could be there!
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Enter my name for me Jason and I’ll “take you out to the ball game!”
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Have a good time.

Sounds like a lot of fun! Someone go and have a beer for me!

Raburn in LF and Ordonez at DH batting 5th. Grandy leading off and Clete batting 3rd.
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In my mind Raburn has to contribute tonight. Can’t carry excess baggage too long.

Willis had a good outing for the Hens today. The Hens were behind 2-1 in the 8th.
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Willis gave up single runs in the 6th and 7th and through 7 innings had thrown 103 pitches (65 strikes). 4 hits 3 BB and 3 Ks
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They are running Willis back out in the 8th and he struck out the 1st hitter he faced.

Dolsi on now with 2 outs and men on 1st & 2nd.
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Willis threw 118 pitches (74 Strikes- 44 Balls) 5 Hits; 4 BB &
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Yes it looks like Willis had a pretty good outing 0 – yes he got the loss, but like the big guys up here in Detroit, they got nary a run for him. Hopefully he can come back – but who do you send down. My guess is Miner goes to the pen but after that who know. Perry would seem to be the logical choice, but he has done pretty well. I don’t think that you can get rid of Lyon, Robertson, Zumaya, Rodney, not sure about Rincon and Seay is definately around. I am glad it is not my decision.

Please. Can we have some updates on Bonderman?

Obviously if Dontrelle were to return to the form of his early years you could find a spot for him. I don’t know if you are going to get that from him, though. I really hate to upset the applecart. Our starters have been really good and I kind of like Nate and young Rick to stay right where they are. We have lost more games due to a lack of offense than poor starting pitching. I guess you won’t know about Willis unless you try him, but I’m not expecting anything better than what we would have gotten with Nate as a starter.

–Ed

In last post meant to say Zach and Porcello stay in rotation, not Nate. My mistake.

–Ed

Dan & Jim were talking about Bonderman in a recent broadcast. Apparently, the velocity’s still not really there, but he got a bunch of K’s (probably off his slider) in a recent extended spring training game.
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Of course, that’s against the kind of bats you see in extended spring training so your mileage may vary.
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-Brian

Any thoughts on Manny? The sad part is, it makes one suspect just about anybody.
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It seemed to me a doubleheader today would have been in order. This is going to leave us with another 5-game series in four days, just like in 2007. I doubt they wait till September for the makeup. And I doubt that the White Sox wanted to play two against the Tigers right now. Again, just like in 2007. Throw in Cleveland colluding to keep Putz out of Detroit and it kind of ticks you off, doesn’t it?
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–Rich

I’m far from a Manny apologist, but there are a lot of banned substances and it could’ve been any number of things. Something like ephedrine can show up in nutritional supplements, etc. He’ll take a big hit for this, as will the Dodgers, but I’m going to wait and see before I lump him in with Bonds, et al.
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matt

Perception is reality, and this guy is going to get cooked in the court of public opinion. What I hate about it is I start to look at people like Sheffield and Ordonez, players who suddenly can’t perform, and I wonder. I don’t even want to be thinking along those lines.
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–Rich

Hey, Rich, what is the story behind “Cleveland colluding to keep Putz out of Detroit?”

Is it possible that Dontrelle will eventually come back in a way similar to Zach Greinke? They both had some of the same type of problem, didn’t they?

There is a suspicion out there that Cleveland got involved in the Seattle negotiations re Putz, with him ending up with the Mets, to keep him out of the Central, namely Detroit. You can’t prove this stuff, but it’s a likely scenario. Perhaps “collusion” isn’t the correct term. Sort of like what the Red Sox and Yankees do to each other. All’s fair in war and baseball.
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–Rich

I’m not a psychiatrist, nor do I play one on TV, but I think Greinke had a social anxiety disorder. I don’t know what the heck Dontrelle has, but I don’t think it’s the same thing by a long shot.
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Good heavens, PEDs, collusion, anxiety disorders…….when does the game start? :-)
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–Rich

Strike 1 50 games, Strike 2 100 games and Strike 3 Life. Even the significantly increased penalties don’t seem to stop them, particularly those that aren’t worried about having a squeaky clean image with more than a hint of notoriety.
Maybe they have to double the penalties to 100 games and 200 which might be more career ending scenarios for aging players who are trying to prolong their heyday.

Add in after Strike 2, the club has the option to cancel the offending players contract without any payments due. With $$$ and the Players Association still controlling the game, it is unfortunately never going to happen.

Interesting comments by JL in talking about Maggs and DH role. “You don’t want to be a DH or labeled a DH.” When did he form this opinion and why then was he so dogmatic playing Sheff at DH, who was no more injury prone than Maggs, Carlos and more than half the pitchers and catchers playing baseball. Previous comments made that Sheff came to Detroit on that basis might be true but just crazy not to adapt and make changes when plans don’t work out.
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Hopefully our RH bats can come good today. Can understand why JL is persevering with Raburn with very few options from AAA, however even he might start trusting his LH AB’s more often, something that has given this BLOG heartburn the past two weeks. Raburn is hitting .077 & .294OBP (saving him to date), Polly .264 & .307OBP and Maggs .232 & .315OBP.

That was ugly.
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Sure wish our catcher had those kind of offensive numbers!
I’ve always liked AJ. Not the greatest behind the plate but he gets big hits.
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G-Man rattled himself when he didn’t get his way with the ump. Not a clever move to turn the ump against you in the 1st inning.

Miner or Nate to do long innings work today? If Miner, Nate still sitting on his hands other than an innings filler in games where results are already known.

Weak sister stuff going on for us against Buehrle –like I say, ugly. It’s gonna be a real obnoxious night (listening to Hawk) if these guys rub dung in our face.

Ordonez has made a drastic change to his batting stance. He’s opened it up quite a bit. I find that very worrisome. Tells me he’s a complete mess up there. Worse than I thought.
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It’s not working for him, either.
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–Rich

Can someone say no-no? I’m hoping I can jinx the guy with my post here in the 5th inning.

On Manny, I have a slightly different perspective. I agree with the policies, and I think they should be enforced. This is mainly because of the influence these guys have on young athletes, and the harmful effects of these drugs.
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But I think it is a fine line between what is a PED and what is legal. I also am undecided on the whole Hall of Fame/stats issue. Do we really want to put asterisks on these guys’ stat sheets? Or purge their records?
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Everyone wonders what the jazz great Charlie Parker could have done if he was straight. But the fact that he was on heroin doesn’t take away from the beauty and innovation of what he did.
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These are tough questions, but I wonder what people think. Does one violation erase everything a player has done? Are some drugs more forgivable than others?

I have to watch this game on Gameday due to a Chicago blackout. The first batter Galarraga faced showed the first 3 pitches within the strike zone. I know an umpire will miss some, but 3 in a row? The the 4th pitch was a ball and the batter walked. The beginning of the end. Could Gameday be that wrong showing the pitch location?

Gameday’s not wrong. I said after that first hitter that Galarraga threw three strikes and walked the guy on four pitches.
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Rod and Mario had an interesting discussion there for a minute. Top of the 6th, two out and Everett hitting. Buehrle pitching a perfect game. Thirdbaseman back on the cut of the outfield grass. Do you have him bunt for a hit? I say hell yes. I don’t care if my mother is pitching, you’ve got to play the game. No question. A no-brainer, if you will.
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Everett went down swinging.
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–Rich

No contest, but mercifully quick tonight.
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Speaking of the strike zone, the Detroit pitchers have done a good job of pounding low in the zone for strikes. If a given umpire isn’t calling that one, we’ll have a long evening. Perry looked good, with both fastball and slider.
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I’ve never seen Maggs in a slump like this, and perhaps he hasn’t either. I’ve always enjoyed the way he’d adjust his stance to fit a situation, sometimes within an AB, but I’ve never seen him change his entire approach as he did tonight. This is going to take more than McClendon reminding him that he hit .143 during April of his .363 season. I’m not even sure that’s true anyway. Something is going on here, but what?
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A disadvantage of the rainout is that we’ll now face yet another LHer tomorrow night, so JL will predictably run the same lineup out there. Back when we had Sheffield and Thames, we’d beat up lefties. Now they’ve become our nemesis. If JL thinks he can just wait around for these guys to hit, he’s going to be waiting a long time. With Verlander pitching, we’ve got to be able to manufacture runs against Lee.
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So Dontrelle Willis is starting next Wednesday at the Metrodome. I assume that removes Miner from the rotation and means dropping someone from the bullpen. I have a bad feeling about this.
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So we’re halfway through what’s become a 12-game run through the Central, and we’re 3-3 so far.
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–Rich

And for what it’s worth, they are now 14-13 compared to 12-15 in 2008. After that 0-7 start they went 13-8 in April, 2008. But then they were 10-17 in May 2008. The 14-13 may look a little better if you consider the 2009 problems they have faced already. Just look at what Guillen, Ordonez, Thames, Lyon, and Robertson have cost them in poor performances so far.

todd, Charlie Parker was addicted to heroin. There’s a big difference between heroin and what Manny took. There’s so many guys taking this stuff, we’d probably all be shocked, but it doesn’t surprise me. I don’t personally believe a word he says. He got what he deserved.

So who do you start tomorrow? Raburn’s a gimme (no sense fighting that battle), but who else? Thomas or Larish? If it was me, and sometimes I wish it really was, I’d start Anderson, along with Santiago at short. I want some gamers out there.
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Don’t look now, but the Royals are opening up some space in the division. They’re really getting the pitching, and are establishing themselves as the early team to beat. And their confidence is building.
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–Rich

jason,
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i know this has been asked before…
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but please…. please… what is the status of Bonderman? All this talk of DTrain…. while i hope he does well he scares the crap outta me…..
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Is Bonderman on a schedule? is he still a tiger? is he even still alive? There has been zero news of Bondo in a good long while. Willis seems to be getting a lot of news with his performance in toledo, but what of Jeremy? I don’t think i am alone in wondering about Bondo.
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Any updates would be greatly appreciated.
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-mike

And all of a sudden we are 3 games out – to the Royals! What is going on? Horrible night, but I like how G-Man got back into it. He could have given up one run that first inning and it wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game. We just could not hit last night, some nasty pitching I guess. I feel for Maggs, I can imagine he is putting himself under a ton of pressure right now, I hope it clicks for him so he can start to look right at the plate again. Good news for Willis is bad news for Miner, and if Willis does not perform he shouldn’t be allowed to stick around as a started, I still am a believer in Miner. so what happens when Bondo returns?

Let’s give a thrashing to the Indians this weekend.

Along with others I am wondering about Bondo. I think most of us hang our hopes on him and not Willis. It would be great (actually a miracle) if they both came back and pitched like aces.

Unlike others, I do not hate Manny. But, now it is hard for me to appreciate his hitting knowing it was most likely a result of PEDS. Rich, I am starting to wonder about others like you. Sad thing for baseball.

At the end of the day I think the Tigers will work out their issues. I don’t want to beat them up just yet. However, it would be helpful if KC would slow down. : )

Does Cleveland still have the guy beating on the drum? Can’t imagine sitting close to him……it is so irritating.

Go Tigers

KC is first in the American League for pitching, Rich, with Greinke leading the way. Tigs aren’t bad, though, in the 4th spot and much improved over last year. KC has something like 26 more extra base hits than us which really makes Maggs troubles stand out. It”s becoming more worrisome in that most of his outs are weak ones. Mostly routine grounders or weak pops. You can’t have a singles guy in that spot in the order–especially one hitting around .230. And if we’re not getting the production from Ordonez, we’re going to have to generate offense some other way–namely with giving Anderson more starts and utilizing his speed more.

–Ed

Last night was disappointing. But it seems like these are the kinda games we are having lately ALL OR NOTHING. I will say this that first walk that Galarraga gave up in the first was a strike out – and if you don’t have that you don’t have that big inning that allows Buerhle to get comfortable and then who knows.
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That being said they still couldn’t get a freaking hit. ALL OR NOTHING!!!!!! A little too much of this as far as I am concerned. Tonight I think that we will see a similar lineup, I swear if I have to see Raburn in that lineup again – anyway he has been horrible and doesn’t deserve to be there I would rather have anyone in there than him. I would gather that Santiago at DH or Anderson would have better production than him.??
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GK

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By the way Rod and Mario made an interesting comment that the Tigers were not allowed to take batting practice, yet the Soxs were. They threw the tarp on the field right after the soxs took BP. Why is it that whenever we play the soxs in Chicago something a little strange happens??? Last year it was playing in obnoxious rain and pitchers got hurt, anyway it seems like there is always something shady that goes on. That is why I hate the WHITE SOXS.

thats chicago for ya…. nothing good comes from there……………….. well except pizza.

Actually surprised they have called up Willis so quickly—I would have thought one more stat at Toledo.
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Who goes down—Larish again?
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It would be a huge bonus to get premium performance out of Willis again. I don’t think we can reasonably expect it to happen, but stranger things have happened in baseball.
This would create some crowding on the pitching staff and I can see a fellow like Miner becoming available when Bonderman starts coming around. That would be too bad because I think Zack will become a steady (if unspectacular) pitcher in the bigs.
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The B-I-G project now is to somehow get this lineup hitting again. The shakeup the other day was encouraging. But something absolutely has to be deciced about Left Field. Raburn out there indicates we have a problem in that area.
I am in the camp that you play Anderson out there agains the lefties and lead him off. Thomas is an option too but Anderson might be the game changer that the tigers need to energize the whole crew. Thomas and Anderson actually present a problem. How do you play them both? Even against RHP-they aren’t gonna sit Ordonez or make him an everyday DH–and where doe that leave young Larish?
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This all would have been obviated if they had had the guts and the vision to have traded Maggs when he was still a commodity. Older stars lose their shine so quickly when coupled with those fat contracts. When he still had the aura of that batting championship (even this last off season), Maggs had a very marketable trade value. Now he has gone the way of Sheffield. It will be difficult to get more than he is worth to be sure. Guillen and Robertson also have very diminished trace value.
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OK OK–I won’t go into trades, and I realize that if and when we do, it will be a capiitulation that will leave a very sour taste in the mouths of Tiger fans.
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They need to get others contributing offensively. Granderson, Polanco, Laird (in addition to Ordonez and Guillen), are putting pressure on their pitchig staff because they are not contributing as they are capable of.

Ah – Grandy is another good thing from Chicago!

Yes, we were absolutely going out of our minds last year at this time, and so was Leyland. I’m not sure he’s recovered his. :-)
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The obvious problem right now is that the injuries to Thames and Guillen, along with Ordonez’s slide, has made the team lopsided. Out of sync, as JL likes to term it. My opinion is that it’s imperative to play the speed guy gamers at this time and depend on the pitching to keep us in there for awhile. You have to think the team will hit better at some point, but it’s entirely possible they won’t. Maggs is overthinking it now, bad place to be.
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GK, I heard that about BP getting canceled on us. Since I’d already covered “collusion” and other shady events yesterday, I let it go without comment. I think the Detroit organization needs to also employ this type of gamesmanship. Heck, take a page from Hayden Fry’s book and paint the visiting locker room pink.
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Rod and/or Mario yesterday said that Bonderman had looked good, velocity coming back. Obviously Jason isn’t with us right now, but maybe he’ll be back for the Cleveland series and can address that.
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–Rich

yeah forgot about Granderson i suppose. so we have chicago pizza and granderson as the only 2 good things coming outta chicago lol

Okay, here’s an article you want to read. Don’t miss it.
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I especially like the part about the fans switching seats.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564
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–Rich

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