Let's get the season started

It might be indoors, but given the conditions, it sure beats the alternative. There’s a sizable group of Tigers fans here, and I’m sure they don’t mind. 68 degree temperature indoors at first pitch

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Happy Opening Day to everyone.
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So far, it’s ok. Verlander looks like he’s overthrowing his curve, but the velocity on his fastball looks good, consistently hitting 97 – 98.

Scratch that, Verlander is now in the middle of a meltdown in the 1st….it’s early but this is all too familiar after last year.

ah shades of yesteryear!

wow justin picking up where he left off last year. 4 runs in the first, thats gonna be hard for the tigers to recoup with halliday on the mound….. yikes….
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mike

Verlander was definitely making an effort to get his curveball over, but he seemed to get completely jumpy again like last year. That opening inning took 35 pitches. The one positive was that his fastball was pretty consistent at 96-98.

laird looks real good. yeah it was caught, but only a few feet from the wall. turn that into a line drive and thats a double or a dinger

laird looks real good. yeah it was caught, but only a few feet from the wall. turn that into a line drive and thats a double or a dinger

i cant stand what a horribble blog system MLB has incorporated. this is why i dont post much anymore. just awful. wasted posts, double/triple posts…. no posts at all cuz of the ‘refresh’ or ‘timeout’ rate that exists for no apparent reason. simply awful. not to mention the pesky ‘unable to hit enter to separate paragraphs’ problem. awful.
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MLB wants a good blog? they should look to scout.com for an example of how a good message forum SHOULD be. i’ve had to refresh this post 3 times.

maybe the blog knew what you were saying about it and decided to mess with you.

Verlander’s velocity just dropped a couple ticks this inning to 93-94, like he’s taking something off to get the ball on the corner.

Not sure if you can hear it off the telecast, but Magglio is really getting it from the fans in RF tonight. They’ve been on him all game chanting his name, and it’s only getting louder.

Justin has to learn when he is taken to school. In fact he’s a bit of a slow learner. Started speeding up his delivery in the 1st to Rios–then walked him. Grooved a fastball to Wells and got a bad break on lind’s first hit. Then he did come unglued. You look at a guy like Halladay and you can only wish that someday Verlander will ‘get it”.
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i was wondering what they’ve been chanting.. i though it might have been CANADA.

Verlander will never get it, he throws too many pitches going full count on almost every batter, loses to many after he is ahead in the count, he did well his first season because no one knew how he pitched now most good hitters will not swing at his junk and make him pitch. Detroit needed pitching last year and they did not take care of that in the off season. It is going to be a long season!

9 to 1 makes it very hard to continue watching this game.

makes it easy to turn on the UNC – MSU game though.

Verlander will never get it, he throws too many pitches going full count on almost every batter, loses to many after he is ahead in the count, he did well his first season because no one knew how he pitched now most good hitters will not swing at his junk and make him pitch. Detroit needed pitching last year and they did not take care of that in the off season. It is going to be a long season!

Halladay is a true ace. I never dreamed the score would look like this, though. Verlander looks just the same.

This is why Leyland kept bringing up the point last week that his starters can’t just chalk up a bad night. This lineup can hit its way back into games.

Thanks Beck for your little add-ons – really helps those unable to be at the game.
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Shame about JV unable to keep the ball along the ground, unlike Bonine.
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Least our bottom 4 look like being much better support this year.
Bottom of the 7th now, you never know…..

That almost looked like a group hug at the mound for Rincon.

It’s us that need a group hug!

gotta love our classy neighbors to the north

Well in reality I didn’t expect to win this game tonight. But it looks as though we have the same Verlander as last year so far. Hopefully it is just a blip in the radar. Hitting was really okay, you get 5 off of Halladay and you’d think that you would of won the game.
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Really shocked by the poor behavior from the fans up there, and really shocked that there was no announcement by the public address person. Really low class fans and really low class move the the personel at the Dome..
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Better luck on Tuesday.

I really didn’t expect to win this game either. That doesn’t take away from the disappointment over Verlander’s performance. It almost looked like he was tipping his pitches, the way they were teeing off on him. From watching on TV, I had to wonder why he doesn’t change speeds more. Fastball, curveball, fastball, curveball. Doesn’t locate the fastball well and doesn’t keep the hitters off balance with a changeup. Anyway, if it’s going to be billed as a “battle of aces” I’d think Galarraga would be one of the pitchers.
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Another hark back to last season was Bonine coming in, immediately clearing the cluttered bases that JV had left, then settling down to some effective pitching. We need our relievers to get out of innings (like Nate did), not allow their inherited runners to score on a chronic basis. That game wasn’t gone yet when Bonine came in.
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Sloppy fielding too. Let’s just call this one the 163rd game of 2008 and start the season anew tomorrow night.
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Why does Maggs get booed in Toronto? There are a lot of anti-Chavez people up there? Or is it just the hip thing to do?
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Switched over to root the Spartans on. I”m a Wolverine but the state of Michigan needs anything it can get. At this point, this one doesn’t look very hopeful either.
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–Rich

I really didn’t expect to win this game either. That doesn’t take away from the disappointment over Verlander’s performance. It almost looked like he was tipping his pitches, the way they were teeing off on him. From watching on TV, I had to wonder why he doesn’t change speeds more. Fastball, curveball, fastball, curveball. Doesn’t locate the fastball well and doesn’t keep the hitters off balance with a changeup. Anyway, if it’s going to be billed as a “battle of aces” I’d think Galarraga would be one of the pitchers.
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Another hark back to last season was Bonine coming in, immediately clearing the cluttered bases that JV had left, then settling down to some effective pitching. We need our relievers to get out of innings (like Nate did), not allow their inherited runners to score on a chronic basis. That game wasn’t gone yet when Bonine came in.
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Sloppy fielding too. Let’s just call this one the 163rd game of 2008 and start the season anew tomorrow night.
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Why does Maggs get booed in Toronto? There are a lot of anti-Chavez people up there? Or is it just the hip thing to do?
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Switched over to root the Spartans on. I”m a Wolverine but the state of Michigan needs anything it can get. At this point, this one doesn’t look very hopeful either.
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–Rich

Just a small thing to show that if JL gets the boot, he deserves it. First inning CG walks. Why in hell is he not bunted over. Now one out and your 3/4 hitters looking at an RbI.Plate one, maybe JV comes out not thinking he has to be absolutely perfect, which is what I would have been thinking going up against Doc in the home opener. Not saying you have to commit to small ball, just in that situation. You’re not going to have the big inning against Doc, so why not play for one. TOO MANY BRAIN FREEZES, JL. That’s why you don’t have an extension.

On the good side…Nate did what he was suppose to, and Grandy and Inge did hit home runs. But yes, overall it was ugly. Glad Leyland went defensive for this game ::smirk::
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Do appreciate the twitters though Beck…
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Waz

We were watching the basketball game and flipped it over just in time to see the players being pulled from the field. I can’t imagine why the fans were doing that, they were winning by a mile towards the end of the game. did I miss something that started all of that?

What a horrific game, and to top it off I got reminded of it all night by my blue jay husband! Yikes, Verlander started off so poorly. but like it was stated above, the hitting got them back into the game, only to let the other team race ahead again.

Nice to see the dinger by Brandon though!

Ugly is right. Granted, it is ony one game early in the season, but you want to see better in the opener. JT made a point about Polanco hittinginto a DP in the 1st. That was a very good point. I would have thought this would be a great time to exhibit a new “dundamentalis” by laying one down ar at least by turning Granderson loose to try and steal 2nd. All this emphasis we heard on JL realizing how important it is to scratch or steal a run against the Doc (ie putting Anderson in), and the he squanders the first opportunity to set the table right at the very beginning of the game.
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Verlander got ahead of himself against Rios, you could smell his anxiety on the mound wanting to get out of that inning 1-2-3 and with a low pitch count. Somehow he figures in his adolesecnt brain (which is far less developed than Porcello’s), that if he hurries his pace the inning will be over faster. Duh!
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There are a growing number of fans who don’t believe that Verlander is a good pitcher. Right now, they are right. I do believe he can be a great pitcher. He has enormous talent, but he also has an ego the size of Lake Erie and has not learned how to manage those 2 characteristics effectively.
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He actually can throw hitters off by deliberately SLOWING his pace too. Think about it JV.
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Funny how spring performances don’t translate too regurlar season sometimes. Lind didn’t hit that well in spring, Everett makes an error at a critical time, Rincon can’t find the plate and gives up runs.
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Now we are all a bit frightened that the mess of yesterday is not confirmed in another poor display today. an 0-2 start is too close to what happened last year. This team is still not proven it can handle the demoralization factor that crushed last year.
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As to the fans, well they behaved badly. At least a number of them did. You get 50,000 people in a party atmosphere in a contained place anywhere and you will get a handful who let alcohol stimulate theri throwing arms. It’s not because they are from Toronto or Canadians. It’s because idiots are everywhere. Beware!

Ugly is right. Granted, it is ony one game early in the season, but you want to see better in the opener. JT made a point about Polanco hitting into a DP in the 1st. That was a very good point. I would have thought this would be a great time to exhibit a new “fundamentalist” approach by laying one down ar at least by turning Granderson loose to try and steal 2nd. All this emphasis we heard on JL realizing how important it is to scratch or steal a run against the Doc (ie putting Anderson in), and the he squanders the first opportunity to set the table right at the very beginning of the game?
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Verlander got ahead of himself against Rios, you could smell his anxiety on the mound wanting to get out of that inning 1-2-3 and with a low pitch count. Somehow he figures in his adolescent brain (which is far less developed than Porcello’s), that if he hurries his pace he will get out of the inning quicker. Duh!
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There are a growing number of fans who don’t believe that Verlander is a good pitcher. Right now, they are right. I do believe he can be a great pitcher. He has enormous talent, but he also has an ego the size of Lake Erie and has not learned how to manage those 2 characteristics effectively.
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He actually can throw hitters off by deliberately SLOWING his pace too. Think about it JV.
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Funny how spring performances don’t translate too regurlar season sometimes. Lind didn’t hit that well in spring, Everett makes an error at a critical time, Rincon can’t find the plate and gives up runs.
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Now we are all a bit frightened that the mess of yesterday is not confirmed in another poor display today. an 0-2 start is too close to what happened last year. This team is still not proven it can handle the demoralization factor that crushed it last year.
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As to the fans, well they behaved badly. At least a number of them did. You get 50,000 people in a party atmosphere in a contained place anywhere and you will get a handful who let alcohol stimulate their throwing arms. It’s not because they are from Toronto or that they are Canadians. It’s because idiots are everywhere. Beware!

Ugh. I minded when we lost and had a 6 hour drive home right afterwords.

At least Fernando threw me a ball today. That’s cool.

I think getting on Magglio has become something for fans in other cities to do … except for the golf ball and the battery, of course. He would get serenaded in certain cities last year, but not very many. He’s a little more of a celebrity for that now after how the Venezuelan fans treated him in the World Baseball Classic. Still, it was very noticeable last night. You could easily hear them in RF from the press box behind home plate. Anderson was getting some of that in left, too.
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As for fans throwing items onto the field, I wouldn’t paint a picture of Toronto fans that way. And the Tigers were generally pretty diplomatic about that, especially Leyland when he said there’s always going to be a few fans who get going too much with beverages and might do something.
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I didn’t have time to blog it last night, but talking with the umpiring crew about the incident gave me a chance to hear some similar stories from crew chief Ed Montague, who’s been on the job for almost 35 years now. He was working the game where someone threw a large battery at Dave Parker in the 80s, and when J.D. Drew had things thrown at him in Philly about a decade ago.

Excellent point JT has made. I missed most of the game but was able to watch from Nate’s good inning to that strange ending. Why won’t JL ever play the game for one run. Why won’t he force the issue: bunt and run, run and bunt, force the opposing team to make a play? That’s elementary baseball. All right I’ll shut up, but great point JT.
On the positive side, the Yankees paid a lot more for their loss yesterday:-)…..sorry for the insensitive cynicism.
Hope the Magglio booing doesn’t become a recurring distraction. As I understand it, he showed verbal support? for Chavez, who has a “questionable” record on human rights in Venezuela.
hmmmm…….Toronto fans throwing things at the players…..Magglio getting booed……..It’s a brave new world out there.

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