Cardinals re-sign Dave Duncan

You can cross off one under-the-radar name off the list of available pitching coaches. The Cardinals announced Friday that they’ve re-signed Dave Duncan to a new contract. This was the last year on his deal, and though it was unlikely he’d leave St. Louis or manager Tony La Russa — especially for an uncertain situation in Detroit — he was at least not contractually obligated to the Cards.

The contract status of Jim Leyland and his staff could be a challenge for the Tigers as they look for a pitching coach. With only one year left on their deals, it’s difficult to ask a pitching coach to come in on what could be a one-year basis and solve a lot of questions. If you sign him to a multi-year deal, you give him more security, but then you either tie another manager’s hands on coaching selections if Leyland isn’t re-signed, or you’re forced to buy out the contract.

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As everyone was saying in the previous entry, Jason, thanks a million for this site. You’re doing a wonderful job. And thanks to everyone else who posts here.
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I just read the article on the Tigers’ site about the work ahead for the Tigers and noticed that DH and SHeff was not mentioned. Was that intentional, and does it mean something? I had thought that Sheff was coming back and that JL had him penciled in at DH (to my chagrin).

My guess is they could just look to their farm system for a pitching coach. Jon Matlack & Joe Coleman are 2 names I can think of.
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Whomever they get I hope they get someone who is dynamic and able to stand up to JL.
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Leyland is burning bridges already with his “JL Talk”. The season is over and he is complaining about and criticizing Verlander in the MEDIA. That ‘s s pretty dumb way of getting things off to a good start in the spring.
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As far as calling Hernandez and Jones scapegoats—I think he is absolutely right but they are being scapegoated for HIM as much as the pitching staff and bullpen.
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Leyland will not get this group motivated are prepared to play a winning brand of baseball. He does not play small ball and has rexources at his disposal that he refuses to recognize and exploit. i.e. Curtis Granderson on the base paths; Santiago at short when it was abundantly clear that Renteria was hurting us; having Hessman around and refusing to evaluate him at 3B. Here’s a guy who hit .296 and bashed 5 homers in 27 AB Small sample up here I admit, but what more did they expect him to do? He can play a solid 3rd base as good as anybody on the club. I do admit he won’t be as flashy or as spectacular as Inge but the opposition won’t be able to pitch around lineup in order to get to him either. Hessman may not ever work out for the Tigers but the shame is that he has never been given the chance. It’s all about job protection and salary justification. Brandon has to play because no other team in baseball will pay him the salary he gets–plus JL likes him, and apparently “likes him a lot”.
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Same for Sheffield. Who else would intelligently take on that contract for the minimal production and possible distraction that he offers in return? That situation throws a monkey wrench into the wole works as you now have 2 other DHs that have to field a position every day. With Guillen and Ordonez in the corner outfield spots next year how helpful is that gonna be for our pitchers?
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Watching the Angels and the Red Sox has made me wonder how much better the Angels might be if they had the power of Thames or the production of Magglio in their lineup.
We could sure use a Shields or an Arrendondo here in our pen and one of their double digit winning starters (who don’t seem like they like to walk anybody). Ordonez for Santana? They could also consider Izturis. They guy can flat out pick it as short. Made 2 errors there all year and has a few seasons under his belt where he actually hit not too bad. Runs well and could lead-off for us.
Hot stove time!

Actually, Sheff’s omission was not intentional. I must have forgotten to include the DH. Will fix. Thanks for catching that.

Actually, would like to see Maggs added to the don’t trade list. He’s a perfect #3 hitter. Not just a “professional hitter”, but a “great professionl hitter”. Sort of a Manny with a little less power. Been around now for a long time and pitchers haven’t been able to get him out yet. I see 3-4 more years of +.300 b/a and would like to see that be here. He’s a little slow but in the realm of average in the field.
Despite the horrible 2008, not sure we are in that bad a fix for SP if Porcello can be ready by 2010 and Bondo can contribute. Would not trade Maggs for pitching, if we did who hits 3rd ahead of Mcab?

Hey Jason, thaks a million and a half for taking the time to write your comments on this blog. I know you will keeo us updated throughout this long, cold Michigan winter. jtennant, I agree 100% about your comments on Maggs. And I know i am in the minority here but I like Sheff. I let him prove himself in 09 but I know JL does not always coach “my” way. My line up is Grandy, Polanco, Maggs, Cabrera, Carlos, Sheff, Inge, Ryan, and Santigo. The starting pitching will come around. We need to bring up these young kids from our farm system for the bullpen and not have pitchers that have played for 12 teams in 12 years! I do not like to platoon or agree with the lefty, righty thing. Have the same line up every day. Go Tigers 2009!!! –Dave

Hello all. I’ve spent the last ten days on a ship, cruising to Quebec. As I’ve said before, I was so sure the Tigers wouldn’t be in the postseason, I booked this trip last January. It does look like I’ve missed a lot of action, however. We could get ESPN at times and the wireless internet was spotty at best, but I managed to keep up somewhat.
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When we talk of what needs to be done, I keep in mind that this isn’t a fix that will be made in one offseason. The end result of that will be that many of us will be unhappy with some of the moves made in the near future. With that in mind, I have some opinions as always.
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I think it was Dan that said that players sometimes need to compete for a job, and I agree wholeheartedly with that. I wouldn’t have just handed Inge the 3B job the day the season ended. No, I stick to my original stance that he can be that guy only IF he contributes offensively. I won’t put numbers on that, since there are many ways to contribute that don’t show up in the stats. If Brandon is able to accomplish that, then we’ve gotten a big upgrade in the infield.
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Guillen in left makes sense in regard to keeping him more healthy. I share his ailment and can tell you for a fact that infield is no place for him to be. This, however, can’t be just another experiment. Carlos has to work in the offseason to become useful out there. We do miss his bat in the 5 hole when he’s not in there. If we get into May and it isn’t working, we’re right back to 2008 all over again.
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Firing Hernandez was the correct move, but I wonder over the Leyland business. He didn’t get his extension. That says to me that he could yet be replaced over the winter, although I find that doubtful. What could end up happening is the team gets off to a slow start and they end up canning him in mid-May. I’m not sure what good that would do, so I’d just as soon hire a new boss sooner rather than later. I don’t think JL “gets it” any longer.
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I suspect they sign Renteria as a free agent and platoon him with Santiago. Not the worst move in the world, but it wouldn’t be very popular with fans, I don’t think.
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Speaking of the fans, I’ve read many many comments this year on this blog and on other boards. There are a ton of very knowledgeable baseball fans out there. Many of the moves being made now were suggested by fans months ago. Kudos to all of you.
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I’m rambling into extra innings here, so I’ll end with a mention of the Chicago Cubs. Here was a team that most people wouldn’t have minded seeing in the WS, but their collapse was shocking. The way they were thoroughly beaten, mentally and emotionally, was unexpected and tough to watch. While I think JL should ride the hot hand during the season, his method of “not too high not too low” may work during the playoffs, as it did for us in 2006.
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–Rich

Hey Jason, I too would like to thank you for providing this forum, and for your knowledge and insight. It’s been a very tough year to be a Tigers fan. But we’ll endeavor to persevere.
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Rich, welcome back. Lets see, if you cruised from the Chesapeake Bay to Quebec, I assume you must have gone out of the bay, up the east coast, around Nova Scotia, the Gaspe Peninsula, and up the St Lawrence…….unless you started from somewhere else. That’s a long cruise. The week of Sept. 20 to 26 I went canoe camping up in Algonquin Provincial Park and was alone for 6 days. Never did anything like that before and it was very cool. I went through a lot of different emotions……very similar to watching a Tiger game actually :-)….no….not at all really. Came home and saw that they had lost something like 6 straight games including the sweep by Cleveland, eh but whose counting. I think I got the better deal anyway.
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Dan, I enjoyed your verdicts. I think you were right on. By the way, kudos to those of you who kept the comments going during those last 2 weeks of the season. You ladies and guys were loyal to the end. I wanted to jump in but just lost the mental energy.
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Dave, I like your lineup. In fact, I like it a lot. Just as it is, based on the present roster.
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I think Shef can rebound from this year. I think he will, he’s done it in the past. I think he can still help the team. And there’s that little bit of business with his large contract. So I think he will not be going anywhere. We’ll see I guess. If he starts out strong, he will stay that way.
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I have to admit that I was not enamored with the M Cab trade but it looks great now. In fact, when the season played out to it’s finish, he ended up the top success story for the Tigers. A pleasure to watch. I like him, I like him a lot. Makes it easy to forget about Camron Mabin. Even if Camron should become a superstar some day, it would at the worst have been an even trade since M Cab is already a superstar.
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Mr. Galarraga was the second best success story this year. And that’s a good thing since the Tigers are in dire need of pitching. Hopefully he will continue his success.
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I agree Dan. Guys should earn their positions. And I’ll put in a plug for Santiago……give him a chance to earn his. And I agree with you that Hessman has earned a spot on the opening roster next year. (I believe you have at least implie that in your comments) He deserves a shot more so than Joyce or Larish imo. They had their opportunities this year and I still rank his value to the team above them….as a back up at 3rd and 1st.
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I also wonder if Clete Thomas and Brent Clevlen were somehow unfairly forgotten this year.
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I still like Marcus.
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Curtis is probably the key position player to a 2009 success.
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These guys are better than their results this year. They can collectively come back and I think they will. Oh yea, I’m in the keep Maggs corner. There are few better #3 hitters in baseball, very few. I wish he were faster but, he is one contract that pays off imo. If he was traded for anything but a very top tier pitcher it would be a give away. They will never replace his offensive production.
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The pitching………..are you kidding, I ain’t no baseball genius. Was it Bullwinkle who said, “Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.”?……………….Well, it can’t get any worse anyway…….ah….. maybe I shouldn’t have said that. Got any rabbits in your hat JL?

Marty I don’t think that JL was forgetting about Clete Thomas. You may or may not have heard that he had to have Tommy John surgery because he hurt himself and didn’t tell anyone and now has to have surgery. I do agree about Clevlen though I think and was shocked when he wasn’t brought up.
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I also am a very unpopular Sheffield fan. I think that he should of told people that he wasn’t well enough to play in the beginning of the year and probably should of waited another month or so to come back. But at the end of the year (like the last month and a half or so) he was great. Healthy I still think that he has something to offer.
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And along those lines I still think that JL has something to offer. I still have a hard time understanding how so many Tigers fan have turned so quickly on him??? Did they do well this year?? Certianly not but I guess the debate is that some want to place all the blame on JL. When there are so many out there that won’t place any blame on JV, or Rogers, or Curtis who’s average and frankly all of his stats were down considerably. I guess that my point is why does he deserve anymore or anyless blame than the rest of them. So by some peoples points if you are going to get rid of JL you should get rid of all of them. And I don’t know why that you are all so willing to give him the blame for this year but not willing to give him any credit for 2006?? I am not saying that there isn’t any blame to be layed but to fire a guy for the lack of performance of people that have played for years and several million dollars aren’t enough to motivate them to play their hardest then I guess that I am just an idiot???

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