Monday: Tigers vs. Indians

You know it’s getting towards the final weeks of the season when the sun bounces off the left-field seats in a way that lets off some nasty glare … or at least, that’s how I know it’s getting late in the season. But that’s just me. I suppose the drop in comments on the blog would be another clue, of course.

Gary Sheffield hits fifth ahead of Carlos Guillen for the first time since the day Guillen came back from that pinched nerve in his lower back last homestand. The left-handed starter likely makes a difference in that regard, reducing the need to mix in a switch-hitter in the middle of the order.

TIGERS (64-66)

  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Sheffield, DH
  6. Guillen, 3B
  7. Thames, RF
  8. Renteria, SS
  9. Inge, C

INDIANS (62-67)

  1. Grady Sizemore, CF
  2. Franklin Gutierrez, LF
  3. Ben Francisco, RF
  4. Jhonny Peralta, SS
  5. Shin-Soo Choo, DH
  6. Ryan Garko, 1B
  7. Kelly Shoppach, 1B
  8. Andy Marte, 3B
  9. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B


Hey Jason, I bet a lot of Yankee hitters remember that glare when Bonderman pitched the 4th game of the ’06 ALDS.

Whew. I’m glad I’m not the only one. Actually, from about press box level, you get a bad glare coming off of the Ren Cen tower soon after game time. Not sure how many other areas in the park you can see that from.

G-Man might want to try and throw Sizemore a slider or something off speed. He seems to be seeing his fastball pretty good!

1st & 2nd nobody out, a guy who can and will actually bunt a ball up and JL prefers to swing away, with the 3 –5 hitters to follow!
This team goes nowhere next year if he is back making these decisions.

Something looks bad in Toledo. Willis pulled after only 1 inning. Gave up a run on 2 hits-no BBs or Ks.
Sounds like it might be another injury.

Yeah, it could be that Ordonez is tired. I mean carrying that head of hair around 24 hours a day can really wear an athlete down.

well rod and mario said it could either be an injury or he’s coming back up…
i’m not sure that seeing that 1 inning of work is a huge plus

Interesting. I didn’t hear them say that.
Meat of the order coming up. G-Man throwing a dependable , blue collar game once again.
Be nice to get him a few here.

Proved to be “meatless”.
Not a burning fire in the belly on the Tigers these days.

Marcus might make a pretty decent and economical DH.

Great to get that run but Polanco being a power hitter and not choking up with 2 strikes really disappoints me. I like the guy a whole lot but this change he has made to his game has me puzzled.

Now What? If G-Man is taken out ( and it is probably wise to do that), who do you go with?

I think I just figured it out. Remember those 1000 runs to be scored? It was really 1000 run-ners stranded. I wonder if it is possible to find out what that stat is by now.

say what you will about Inge’s BA, but when Pudge left he had 32 rbi and Inge had 30, now Inge has 40 & pudge has 33. Pudge may be hitting 70 points higher but Inge is more productive.

I hear Ya’! But, I think Brandon’s true worth will be expressed at 3rd base. I think he could hit .260 and get you 15-20 Hrs and 75 or 80 RBIs playing the hot corner.
As a catcher he won’t hit .240.
Ordonez does look tired. Probably got tired out being thrown out at the plate yesterday. Don’t think it was from the time he stood at home and hit into the DP.

Let’s do it Ryan!

Hit the ball hard that inning (for the most part).
Rodney the Right or Rodney the Rong now.
Whatever he does ( and he has the abilit to come in and K 3 straight batters)–he is on my Shipping List too.

I agree that Inge should be at 3rd, But we haven’t missed Pudge and his lack of production.

That’s the Rodney this team could use next year. I can’t stand it when he’s wild high.
Well can the Tigers win it in the 9th?

Do the Tigers have a hero tonight? I wouldn’t be surprised that Inge comes thru. He’s into it tonight.

Curtis—C’mon man–show ’em who’s better!

We get to see the middle of the lineup in the 10th.
Sure be nice to see Fossum hold these guys off.
Ordonez is overdue to something–anything, important.

Renteria as short next year? Good gracious no. Those pop flies are eatin’ him up!
I think JL is overmanaging now. Might have been better to “manage” in the 3rd inning when he had the obvious sac bunt situation with 2 on and none out.

Geez, I hate it when I’m right and Leyland is wrong. At least this time I am.
I didn’t see any problem leaving Fossum in as long as got outs. Glover was due to be the latest new guy in town to give up a game winner.

Tigers just plain don’t give a “sh**”! I am sick an tired of them letting these left handed AAA callups showing them up. The fact of the matter is these guys especially Magglio has forgotten how to hit. When is the last time that Magglio came through??? Its been a long long time. And I am sick of everyone alway hitting in double plays. I don’t know the stats but we have to be amoung the worse. I can hardley stand to sit and watch and listen to these games anymore.
This was the game was probably the game that we had a chance to win in this series, and Lee on Tuesday will be impossible and Fausto is a crap shoot. Not only is Verlander unpredictable so is Carmona. Why should a team that only has one guy hitting over 280, be able to beat us, even if we don’t have a perfect pitching performance??? Should be able to out hit a team like Cleveland when they have a lefthanded unproven bad pitcher going.

Okay okay, I made an observation that Ordonez could be tired. Don’t need to turn it into a comedy routine. 🙂
It’s really inexplicable how consistently bad this team has been this year. It’s pitching, defense, untimely hitting, managing, bad luck (Raburn hit a bullet and Inge could have had a double), coaching, injuries, poor scheduling, orange bats, you name it. Leyland and the guys can’t say this, but it’s just not our year. And they know it.
If we’ve got players giving up, you have to consider this: we complain about JL but they have to deal with him on a daily basis. What must that be like?
It does say a lot about the entire organization’s lack of pitching that we sign a guy like Glover, since we obviously have no one down on the farm who can step in and help. We didn’t trade that many pitchers away, did we? Was the entire thing overrated?
With Lee and Carmona on tap, Cleveland is bound to leave town in third place. I suppose it doesn’t matter, but I’ll bet it matters to them.
Nice to see you back, Marty.

Jason – I think the drop off in comments is more due to the Tigers being out of it and frustrating rather than end of the season – if we were 5 games back and playing better this place would be hopping! but we love that you give us this space to discuss the Tigs and to vent. I learn a lot from what I read here about players in the minors that might be in our future and other things.

Ordonez just missed a nice double late in the game with that foul ball, might have been something there. And those 2 fly balls to the track in the last 2 innings were a bummer too – got me standing up trying to push the ball over but it didn’t work. It was nice though to see Rodney and Farnsworth turn in the kind of relief pitching they are supposed to.

I do think the comments drop off because we keep seeing the same thing, game in and game out. After awhile you get tired of complaining about stuff.

These guys do appear to be uninspired but not moving the runner over int he the third is just plain inexplicable. Especially since you have the “fleetfooted” boys coming up next. It would be nice to stay out of the double play situation with those guys.

Polly’s changes have been strange also. I don’t recall him ever striking out so much (relatively speaking) or making as many errors (relatively speaking). But the biggest difference is his approach at the plate. Be nice if one of the announcers or writers asked him about it.

On other issues, I went 2 for 3 last night. Coach through batting practice balls to us, on my last at bat he threw a nasty change up. I corkscrewed but good at the plate and struck out with guys at 2nd and 3rd. Also caught a flyball but forgot to take my ungloved hand out of the pocket of the glove. Got a text message from JL. Wants me at Lakeland next year. 🙂 Too bad I have to work.

A rare siting from Ty Cobb…


Well, as you know, I live in Cleveland and don’t get to see ‘the boys’ very often. But, I have to admit when my wife said ‘no game’ as is always the case, this time I didn’t put up a fight. I checked the score in the 5th, again in the 9th and watched that no name call up give up the gopher ball. Bottom line, like it has been said before, we stink, plain and simple. Next year is all we have at this point…that and maybe Maggs (if he comes out of this mini-slump) winning another batting title.


Nice article on Mickey Tettleton. He always seemed like a nice guy when he was here (signed a baseball card for me once) and always enjoyed watching him chew and spit all over himself. Good times!


Also, as some of you might remember and noticed, I haven’t posted on here very much in the last 4 months. Like I said once before, life and writing has gotten in the way. As far as the writing goes, I recently had one of my short stories published. If any of you are interested in checking it out (you fellow married guys will relate to the story for sure) go to:
Click on August 2008 and then scroll down till you see my name.
If you like it, feel free to send them a comment, hopefully they will want me back for future issues. Thanks guys and Go Tigers (next year, that is)!

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