Quotes from Nate

Robertson was very reflective about the decision. He said he knew he was going to have “a conversation” with the manager after the Texas outing, but seeing it coming didn’t help much.

“It’s tough, probably the lowest point for me that I’ve had to deal with. I think I’ve kind of bottomed out. But that doesn’t mean I don’t believe that I can come back and be a legit starter for this club.”

On his slider, Robertson said, “Throughout my career and especially when it comes to situational pitching, I’ve always felt like when I’ve had my legit slider, which is my out pitch, I’ve felt like I could get out of anything. And this year, for whatever reason, it’s just been inconsistent, off and on. You can just see that in times when I’ve gone up against a good left-handed bat. It’s been a very, very effective pitch. It’s been a plus pitch. And it’s not a plus pitch right now. It’s inconsistent. When it flattens out, it’s very hittable and it’s cost me in bad situations in a ballgame.”

On the decision to take him out of the rotation: “Skip’s got a job to do, and he’s got to make the decision for this club, and right now you can’t feel good about me going out there after what happened in Texas. I mean, I don’t feel good about me going out there after what happened in Texas. I know I have better stuff than that. If I don’t have anything to throw off of that fastball, then I’m in trouble.”

Robertson also said they would “probably have to make some changes” in his offseason program. It sounded like that could be a combination of working on his mechanics and altering his workout program. The word that Robertson used was “flexibility,” as in he doesn’t have much of it, and it’s affecting his game.

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this move to the bullpen is about a year and a half late.

i think it’s great that NR is being so positive about the move. he clearly knew it was coming and instead of complaining to reporters like Shef, he is taking responsibility. awesome :)

You know…………I was thinking about how Kenny Rogers went to Dick Egan for help. What is Bob Cluck doing these days? He seemed to get positive results from Nate and Bondo and others.
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–Rich

Funny you say that, Rich- because as happy (relieved, rather) that Nate will get a chance to work himself out without costing the team games, I have little faith CH is the answer……

Tracey

How slow can Ordonez run? Slow roller, 2nd baseman can’t get the ball out of his glove and he still is thrown out at first.
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Ordonez is struggling mightily IMO. There has been a lot of resistance to the thought of trading him. In my estimation the Tigers will nver get better value for him than they can right now. His power numbers are down, his clutch hitting is down, his defense is down, his base-running is down.
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I just think we need a premier starter and a salary break and he offers that.

Nate in the bullpen was being talked about here quite some tome ago. I think he would be good out there IF he could throw his slider. If he can’t get that pitch working again then he is unlikely to be any more effective out of the pen.
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Team USA disappointed in Beijing. Big Mike Hessman was really a bust over there. I always wanted to see Mike be given a shot at playing 3rd here. Big guy, veteran making a comeback, decent fielder, nice guy–kind of a baseball romantic story. But I must admit, I think his performance has probably shown why he hasn’t made the bigs. This was pressure baseball and if you can’t play pressure ball then the bigs aren’t in the picture. Too bad.
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I suspect we will see Inge catch and Guillen at 3rd next year. Ugh!.
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Big Cab really pounded that ball to the off field. He has been hitting the ball hard even lately with little results–maybe this will turn things around for him.
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Let’s go Matt–lets pick up the Sheff K and bring that guy home!

Good to see Ramon out there at short. We know if there are any pos out his way that we can count on them being caught. He has been a tough out at the plate too.
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I don’t see him as being my idea of our regular SS next year but I like the heck out of the guy.

JV is pitching these guys really tight. I suspect somebody is going to get plunked tonight before this one is over.
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Curtis walked twice now. Wonder of Polly will ever hit to right field again after the bat grip change?

We were in Kansas City in July for the games when Detroit swept the Royals. Their new Hi-Def screen is awesome. Has a great time, of course it is always more fun when your team is winning!

Boy does the ball ever sound funny coming off the bat tonight. Not the typical “crack of the bat” sound.

JV pitched a good one and battled a bit too Good for him. Not a bad move for JL to yank him after the walk. Protects the lead but also protects JV’s effort too.

Glover looks (and looked) good.
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JL will probably take him out for Seay now!

All right–he kept him in. Good.

Bet JL told Glover–“Throw the ball over the middle of the plate and let this guy hit it!”
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Why would Inge be wanting the location low on Gload? He has 4 hits today on low balls in the strike zone.
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I was surprised with that on his 4th AB.

Looks like the Tigers old, new closer is in now.
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Rodney the Right has been playing lately, so let’s hope the trend continues.

Rodney the Rong was here tonight. Good hustle by Inge but Rodney showed us why you can’t delude yourself into thinking he is closer material. He simply is not.
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He folds like a cheap tent in the pressure situations.
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The guys won a game but you know they really were lucky to pull it off. No back-to-back hitting again, and apart from Cab, the team didn’t really look good or have great swings.
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I’m glad JV got the win and the abbreviated shut out. He pitched with intelligence and guts tonight.
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My wife pretty much stays away from me for the Tiger games but often joins me for the last half inning. I told here tonight that Rodney was gonna get clobbered. Well he didn’t get yarded but he did get hit hard. After the Butler single I said that Rodney was wild and I wouldn’t be surprised if the threw one away. I guess I’m glad, he in fact did!
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How lucky can you get though? Even the tag was lucky. Rodney looked more like an usher showing DeJesus his seat before the glove accidentally fell to his leg.
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Rodney is on my “wish (they are not here next year) list”. He further solidified his position on my list tonight.
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Sheffield and the three “R”s make up my list. Rogers is not one of those “R”s,
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I really hope they change the complexion of this team though next year.

Someone asked where Wilkin Ramirez played—he is the Left Fielder for Erie. He’s hitting .311 with 19 HRs and 23 SB
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Hope we get to see him–he played pretty well for the parent club in Spring Training before getting hurt.

Rodney did something that very few closers can accomplish. The old “bounce it off the backstop and nail the runner at the plate” play. Oldest trick in the book. :-)
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Inge made a real good play on that and he’s done this before since taking over as catcher. I remember one time that Zumaya just kind of stood there looking at him, so I’ll give Rodney credit for being alert. Again, it points to the importance of defense in winning games.
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Since we’re basically holding tryouts for relief pitchers, it wasn’t at all stressful watching Rodney work the 9th. I expected this kind of performance. John Lowe wrote in the Freep today that Rodney could be next year’s closer, so I wonder what John is smoking. If this had been a game we really needed, JL would have been nuts not to have Seay warming up earlier in the inning. At this point, it’s all about building confidence. Wait a minute, that’s what it’s been about at every point with him.
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So those 3-run saves that Jones specialized in don’t look so easy now, do they? :-)
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If you could only improve one facet of the team, it’s obviously the bullpen. Glover isn’t the answer to anything and they know it. Rodney should be traded and probably Zumaya too. Farnsworth we don’t have to worry about, he was gone before he got here. Bobby Seay has replaced Jamie Walker admirably so he’s a keeper. Other teams have overhauled an entire bullpen in one offseason and we’ll need to do the same.
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I’d miss Maggs, but it’s true his value will only diminish after this season. I’m just afraid DD will trade him for Livan Hernandez and Craig Counsell, if you get my drift. Or maybe Jeff Weaver. Damien Easley?
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–Rich

Wow. Lucky bounce. There have been a few the other way so it’s nice to see one go our way once in awhile.

Read through the comments and I too would not like to see Mags go. I do think there is the nucleus of a good club in there if the bullpen and starting pitching can get worked out.

So we’ll see I guess.

Anybody notice how the chairman of the IOC said baseball wouldn’t be back in the Olympics until the MLB players decided to participate. Anybody remember a day when the Olympics were about amateur athletics ONLY. Wasn’t Jim Thorpe denied some medals because he got paid for some exhibition thing he did. Ironic isn’t it. I guess economics have also affected the Olympics.

Detroit Tigers Salaries:
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(Fat figures and fiiner details included)
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http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/detroit-tigers_21.html

Possible replacements starters:
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Bonine
Lambert
Vasquez
FOSSUM
LOPEZ
and here’s one out of the blue:
Guillermo Moscoso!!!
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Moscoso is toiling for the Erie SeaWolves in Double A Between there and Lakeland (where he started the season), he has thrown 75 innings and given up only 52 hits and 18 walks. So his WHIP is under 1.00!
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In those 75 innings he has K’d 105 batters! He is a skinny kid but has been around for a while as he is 24 years old. Another one of those guys from Maracay Venezuela.
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I don’t know what he throws but whatever it is, it’s working!!!
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BTW, he had a good year in 2007 too.

Renteria:
05:$7M, 06:$8M, 07:$9M, 08:$9M, 09:$11M club option ($3M buyout) (partially deferred)
acquired in trade from Atlanta 10/29/07, with Braves paying undisclosed amount of Renteria’s 2008 salary
acquired by Atlanta in trade from Boston 12/05, with Red Sox paying Renteria’s $8M salary for 2006 and $3M buyout for 2009 option (if club declines)
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That last line, I’m not clear on. Boston wouldn’t be paying the buyout for 2009, would they? At any rate, it appears this is one quick way to drop some salary by not picking up the option, no matter who pays the $3M. Santiago is playing for $.575M right now.
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DD really hung an albatross around his neck with those contracts for Willis and Robertson.
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–Rich

Very interesting on salaries! I noticed the baseball bats, and thinking.. did anyone noticed, less bats shattering lately.. Iwonder if Tigers xrayed them, and saved the good ones for fall.. when were in to the middle of the race for pennant! HA!.. Any clubs out there in need of a truckload of good maple bats and a DH to deliver them? Plus a dozen of Hot & Readys too! Keep the driver!!! Please! I just have to wonder what JV was thinking watching that 9th inning… Rodney was making very nervous.. did he get lessons from Jones?
If not for bad luck…funny, it turned sides, and the bad luck went to the Royals! I wonder what Leyland said to FR, when they embraced on the close of the game, and players went out to shake each others hands… Rodney went right to the dugout and clubhouse…
I can see Rodney, Zoom Zoom traded , Jones, &Rogers released, we need a starter and a closer..AND a pitching coach! If they had so little faith that young Andrew Miller & Jurjens would be a good starters… Its been a hard pill to swallow seeing Maggs as trade bait, I like him a lot!.. I wish they could ship Shef to Japan, to the other side of world.
Back to Maggs, if Shef does go, it would open up the DH spot, allowing youths in out field is the future of this club… Just look at how well Curtis has improved , and the stat on his fielding.. Outstanding.. He rules out there… Add to that, Rayburn, Thomas, and Joyce and you have an explosive charge that could really power a dynamic team… Maggs, and Thames can platoon DH… One last thought, would be base stealing clinic with Ricky Henderson, and have Thomas, Rayburn, Joyce, and Granderson all study over the winter break or spring training. Boy .. that would be dynamite! KABOOM!

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