Why no Arthur Rhodes, you ask?

According to Seattle manager Jim Riggleman, Rhodes slept on his left arm wrong and wasn’t feeling right. He tried to warm up during the game and loosen it into pitching shape, but it wasn’t happening. That’s how you end up with a backup catcher on the mound in the 15th inning.

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You had to know something was wrong with Rhodes there. Either that or he was in the biggest doghouse a player has ever been in. I did laugh when Pudge swung and missed on yet another high one. This time from a catcher. At least nobody fanned. I do wonder how a manager in a DH league got himself into that situation.
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The entire game was like a theater of the absurd. This road trip has put us in a position of pretty much needing 5 of 6 on this homestand, a tall order.
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Anybody who gets an FSN station, you might want to check out the “Baseball’s Golden Age” series. They’ve been advertising the heck out of it and it is a good watch, especially for us old-timers. I’m hoping for a feature on Mickey Mantle myself.
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–Rich

Well apparently the Indians have agreed in principle to send C.C. Sabathia to Milwaukee for a boatload of prospects. It should make it a bit easier to take games from Cleveland since Sabathia has been on a pretty good roll as of late.

The Bonine/Sabathia matchup that Leyland didn’t want, wouldn’t have happened after all. The Tigers have been very lucky missing other teams top pitchers this year. It has happened very often including missing Felix this weekend. Now they don’t have to face a red hot C.C. on Tuesday… perfect. There may not be a pitch thrown over 90 MPH on Wednesday with Bonine and Byrd pitching. That was a huge win today to stay at .500 coming home before the break. Give Leyland credit for going to the mound in the 15th to remind Jones that Seattle would be playing for 2 runs and wouldn’t be bunting. I thought that was very smart in that situation and Jones made his DP pitch.
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We have lots of games left with MIN and CHW all hope is not lost.

the sad thing is, without the catcher uncorking that wild pitch.. we wouldn’t have scored off him in the 15th!!!

That is why I like baseball. You never know! If we face their ace, maybe we beat him up. If there was not a wild pitch, the batter changes his approach. I would have bunted with Ichiro comng up and being at home.
Remember, if is the the largest word in the dictionary.
Rich, thanks for reminding me about the Golden Age series.
Oh yea, who cares about Cleveland news. This is a Tigers site(:
Zoom looked good!
Go Tigers!
–Dave

Sorry Dave, but I was just about to make a comment about…….Cleveland.
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Is anyone else surprised over what they did during the offseason, which was essentially nothing? It’s like they didn’t realize how much good fortune they had last year. I don’t want to use the word luck because that would downplay what they accomplished on their own, but it was definitely something you don’t get very often. Call it mojo or whatever. I didn’t think they were all that strong coming into this season, and that’s exactly what’s happened. Not getting those bounces this time around.
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That said, they come in here with an 8-game losing streak and how much longer will that go on? At least two more games, I hope. We need to get on them early and often to keep them down. A split is no good.
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–Rich

We had 8 hits in 50 at bats.We only hit .250 against their backup catcher….Hey, Maybe we can make a trade to get him. Gets some more diversity out there….Really am hoping our bats come alive for CLE and MINN.Our starting pitching really looked good at Seattle and we should have won all 3 games,,,,but 5 runs in 35 innings.Cqant average 1 run every 7 innings unless Gibson and Koufax and Feller and Dizzy Dean join the squad.First we couldnt pitch,then we couldnt field and now we cant run the bases and we havent hit consistantly all year…..Dan, if you`re out there…Does this constitute a quandry?,and,Did you enjoy the rushing of the wind?You missed a weird one,A real twi-lighter in the coma zone.

People in Cleveland are crying over losing Fat Boy Sabby and that their season is down the drain…all hope is lost, they are already turning towards the start of the Browns season…can you say bandwagon jumpers?

Jason,Read your article on Willis.Hope his knee is allright.Beginning to look like shades of the Vance Wilson dilemma…..I was curious, though about what you wrote about the upcoming trade deadline.Did you mean that we wouldnt trade any prospects,or merely that it would be difficult to make a trade without any prospects?I hate to see us give away anymore youngsters.Ecspecially for any more aging yesterdays stars…..You are with the club everyday,If you are able to, can you tell us your gut feeling on what to expect?Thanks…..Bruce

Toledo MudHens lead Scranton 3-0 in the 4th
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DH BRANDON INGE has hit a 3-run HR!!!!

Had a great ride and checked in this morning for the score. Pleasantly surprised with the outcome but still perturbed about the disappearance of batting skills.
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You aren’t gonna win too many games like that. Nate throws a 4-hitter over 9 innings. and the team didn’t lose while only scoring 1 run?
Was it a blue moon last night because it will take another one to see that happen again.
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I see Renteria’s woes have continued and he has now become a .250 hitter with very little power, limited speed and poor range. How do we advertise that to any GMs looking for a shortstop? Boston is looking for a ShortStop–think they would be interested? This year is making his 2005 campaign he had with the Sox look good by comparison.
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I’m only half serious about my statement regarding moving Carlos back to short. My point is that he actually would be an upgrade over his upgrade if they were to do that and it would give JL the opportunity to play Brandon at 3rd.
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Do I think it is going to happen—no, no way in Hell Michigan will that happen but it does illustrate the carnival nature of what has happened the first half of the season.

Hey all, I have a good stat for everyone, since Renteria has been a pretty common topic of late. I was just checking Yahoo! sports and saw the who’s “hot ” who’s “not”. It shows that in the last 7 days Edgar is batting a ******** .038! This is to the point where it is just humorous! Anyway just thought I would share that info. GO TIGERS!

boston wouldn’t dare take renteria…. that experiment ended in booooooo’s last time he was in boston (last time before tigers he was in AL too…) NL teams might be interested, what they would give up for him, who knows. i’d be happy with a whole hearted CUT and put guillen back as SS and inge at 3B…….
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sheff needs to go bye bye too. not thrilled with captain AARP in our lineup. never liked the sheff trade. never.
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i can go on, but whats the point.
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mike

I was just watching some of the Boston-Minnesota game. I saw a lot of emotion there, and found myself wishing our guys could display some. I think they’re into it just as much, but they’re all of such a quiet disposition; Renteria, Ordonez, Guillen, Polanco, Sheffield, nearly all of them. It’s possible this stems from JL’s mantra of “not too high and not too low” but I’m not sure this is a good thing. I’d like to see a little more fire out there. Pudge is fiery, but it seems to revolve mostly around his own accomplishments. How about a little more Zumaya-like approach out there?
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You know what I’m saying?
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About Willis: I recall him shaking that leg around during his rehab starts the first time around. That thing never healed, did it? This is not smart.
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Renteria: I fully expected him to sit in Seattle and it never happened. Now JL says he’s starting tomorrow because they had a good talk? Okay fine. I’d have to say one of the two participants in that good talk needs to go.
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Bruce, are you assuming that we’d be the buyers at the trade deadline? That’s not a certainty at all. We may be selling by then. Just a thought. At any rate, nobody is going to give us anything for Renteria, Rodney or Sheffield, and those are the guys who seem to be the chief bad guys in most people’s eyes. Beyond that, we end up trading away somebody more popular. This could be a rough time coming up in that regard.
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Dan, good idea on taking that ride. For me, it was one of those rare times when my wife got to watch the game with me, and the type of game it was gave us plenty of time to talk. About other things. :-)
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–Rich

reading Jason’s article on willis, i’m slightly disheartened. not that i mind the team spending 30 mil for 3 years on a ‘project…’ sounds like a Lions move…..
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ughh
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mike

Rich, I am hoping that we have a bargain basement discount deal on some of our aging veterans,But it seems whatever I am usually thinking,Tiger management goes the other way.For, example last year I was real high on Miller and Jurrgens(but,admittedly I have always placed a higher emphasis on fielding and pitching),and was stunned when we lost both of them.I am high on Inge and management traded him out of a position.I am high on speed.Bye, bye Maybin. I thought Marcus would be the left fielde,Welcome Jacque Jones……I hate to even say this….but,I really like Clete and Brent.My fear is that management will move them for a Jason Giambi or a Big Hurt,or some body else that was great in the 90`s or early 2000`s.I like Blaine and Oslund,so that means management could very well deal them,based on all the other guys I liked and are gone….Some people will think I`m mean,but I would look to move Shef real cheap to free up the DH holeFor CG orsometimes Cab,and evenMaggs I might hit at DH at times.And the biggest move I would make is in finding a young quality Shortstop,and I wouldnt care if he hit like Oyler as long as he could field like him.Inge would be back at 3rd most of the time,for me.I`d still try to get CG some time in the field.On e of my fears right now is at catcher.We traded one of those last year that was young and decent looking.If we trade Inge and Pudge goes down,the season is over in my eyes….JL has turned Edgar into Shef 2,Revisited.HE CANT HIT THE INSIDE PITCH and the entire AL knows it.He hasnt got the range he did whenJL managed the Marlins.We need youth somewhere,and we have it in Curtis PERIOD(and Cab)…..No balance,no speed no youth,and I fear that management will trade away more of it,for more aging guys looking for 500,3000,or 300 whatevers,instead of balancing this team with veterans,youth,power and speed.The off season netted us Cab,nothing else of value.I`m glad we have him,but currently he is an offensive threat only.I really believe if he works hard he might turn out to be a quality 1st sacker.But,usually one experiment in the infield at a time is the most any team can handle without sacrificing defense.I got news,CG isnt going to get any faster out there,anyone believing otherwise is deluding themselves and his range will not increase and his arm wont ever be as strong as it was 3 years ago.Its called agingIt happened to Cobb,It happened to Kaline.It just happens and never reverses itself.We cant give up all our youth for our desire to make the series this year.Hello Doyle Alexander,you still out there.

I should have included Galarraga and commend DD on that acquisition,but I was mainly addressing position players.We gave away a lot of kids and we got Cab….

Hey Rich, don’t be sorry, Cleveland reminds me of the White Sox after they won the American League. What was that pitcher’s name, Fausta something? :) As long as we mention the Tigers in the mix. All the teams, players, managers, have a good year once in a while. I like the Zoom attidude approach. Like Mario and Rod said, it is time to rest Renteria. Like my uncle said (who coached the Yuma Arizona High School baseball team to the 1973 baseball state championship), Leyland sometimes shows no emotion or fire. Good to hear from you Ty.
Lets go Tigers!
–Dave

Who’s your Tiger? Granderson. My kids, daughter, son-in-law, son, daughter-in-law, got me the MLB jersey for my birthday(March 31st), which I wore to the Whitecaps game on the 4th of July this year. Yes, youth, speed, defense, and pitching!
Go Tigers!
–Dave

Bruce, we’re on the same page with most of this stuff. A run not allowed is every bit as important as a run scored. It’s not complicated, really.
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–Rich

The Boston looking for a shortstop thing: I was being a bit sarcastic. He was booed outta town almost and there would be now way any American League team, especially Boston, would take him.
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I would like to see him get going but I don’t think he has much to get going with. I wish they would bite the bullet and just let him go. Take what you can get. The Dodgers want ****, we aren’t going to get much for him but anything would be good and the consequent shakeup on the team would be good too. The only real alternative to him this year is Santiago and we have to understand that Santiago may be damaged goods this year.
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The trades haven’t worked out so well this year but I don’t think DD was derelict in making them. He was trying to build a team and the one he was building looked pretty darn good at the time.
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BTW—Ramon Santiago went 4 x 4 tonight in Toledo.

It’s pretty clear Mr Leyland, what needs to be done.

Pretty sad to see all the Rentoria-bashing. Give the guy a break, guys. He’s a streaky hitter, and he’s not a top-notch hitter. He plays a decent SS, though, and he’s won some games for the Tigers this year. It’s really kind of too easy to pick on the guy. Putting Guillen back at SS would be a huge mistake. Sure, it would be nice to have someone else there next year, but stop carping about him this year. I bet he gets hot in the summer and brings his average up.

We’ll hold you to it Steve! As to giving him a break I think he has been given that and some. It is halfway through the year and fans don’t know if he is streaky or steady—–he’s been called both.
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Regardless, he is not hitting and he is another slow-footed runner who moves station-to-station. He has had a couple of big hits this year, and he has had a pretty decent streak of hitting at one stage too. That does not justify running him out there every day when you have a MLB caliber backup like Santiago.
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I’d like to see him at least get as much time off as they try to give Pudge or Thames, for that matter. Having Hollimon around is a little different than having Ramon around. Ramon has done this gig before and he will play a better defense than Renteria. I think he will be more effective offensively too.
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We’re fans here, we have opinions that we think are valid. That is not the same as bashing. Renteria was a very good ballplayer, I don’t hink he is the same player that he was nor do I think he will lbe in Detroit. I don’t think he is a bad guy, a malcontent or a bum. But I do think he has been given excess time to turn his game around and needs to be sat more than has been.
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Yes, putting Guillen back at SS would probably be a mistake but the difference between Renteria and Guillen that was the whole reason behind the trade, is nowhere near as dramatic as it was supposed to was touted to have been.
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We’re not picking on him, we are watching him play and we are reading the box scores.

Dan, very well said about Renteria or any other player. Look at what Pudge is doing with his average. But I have to quote my uncle again, the stat that matters is rbi’s. Of course runs scored is big also as you must have someone on base so you can drive them in and not just rely on the solo home run:)
I remember some Tiger bloggers that wanted Lugo as our SS. I say rest Renteria when Santiago comes back and see what happens. Come on JL, let’s tinker!
How about this, we all keep putting our thoughts on this blog, JL keeps reading them, Jason also reminds him, and we go 47-27 (at least) and win 91 games.
Let’s Go Tigers!
–Dave

Steve, What I wrote about Renteria was never intended to be bashing him,or a charactor assasination,of any kind.I have always respected him as a player and have no personal illregard for him.In many way I feel sorry for the expectations that have accompanied him along with the trade for him.It wasnt his fault that he was traded.He had no control over the personel that was exchanged.I am sure that he has experienced tremendous pressure to perform.And it was heightened by all the hype of being part of the new offensive dynasty that would surely take place.The players that were exchanged were sure to become a controversial issue,if he didnt live up to the standards or expectations of those that thought we might be getting shortchanged.Players often,these days, are regarded as commodities,with a profit and loss statement attached to each of their own resumes.The fans did not create this scenario,it was created by MLB.I can look at Edgar as a person and have high opinion of him as a man or an individual.But make no mistake.MLB looks at the P&L above persnal character traits.The fans have gradually over the years begin to evaluate a plyers status based on the statistics that are provided by MLB….I never knew what RF was 45 years ago.Never heard of OPS or a pik off stat or a Save and countless others that are standards of measurement that has been implemented by MLB….So when I write about CG or Pudge or Justin or anyone else I try to measure their worth based upon the same criteria or same standard that MLB uses……..There have even been a few times when I have defended players,that I have felt bring a special something to the team,in spite of what the stats may indicate….But, I fear that Edgar has already been damaged by these expectations that have been placed on him,and will find Detroit to be an unwelcome or undesireable place in his heart as a result.His pressure is increasing daily. He`d have to have an incredible second half to alleviate the cynics and restore him to a level of comfort….I honestly do not think he is young enough to accomplish that feat at this stage of his career.I could easily provide for you an abundant number of statistics and specifics that would not only indicate,but,even magnify the unlikely probability of his success,should he stay in Detroit.However,to do so at this point,might only be viewed as more along the lines of charactor assasination,which I too,wish to avoid.I`m sorry if I offended any of our fans.

Dan and Bruce, you put that well. I think what we say here is a far cry from the real bashing that takes place on other sites. We’re not calling him nasty names or a cancer or any of the other comments that seem to be in vogue these days. Comments that have been aimed at nearly everybody in this organization, I might add.
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I didn’t like this trade. I didn’t think Edgar could help us. For the first seven months after the deal was done however, I rarely made a comment about him that didn’t include props for him personally, as a teammate, and as a professional. I don’t think I need to continue adding that caveat everytime his name comes up, but here it is again.
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I hope he pulls out of it. I thought he might hit about .290 for us, maybe 12 homers and some RBIs in good spots, with the added ability to hit about anywhere in the order. I didn’t expect much flash in the field. I will opine that the absence of Maggs has put pressure on some guys. Perhaps that’s what JL and Edgar discussed.
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In the end, we all have ideas on what would make this team work. I can’t offer my opinion to make a change at short without explaining why, and that means pointing out negatives. That’s entirely normal.
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I’m proud to have Edgar representing the Tigers but, like Dan said, he doesn’t need to be in there every single day. I don’t think that’s putting him into that “position to succeed” as JL gets credit for doing.
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–Rich

This just in on Dontrelle’s knee: he has tendinitis. Here’s a link to the article on espn:
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3478182

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