Bonderman out for season

It’s official: He went on the 15-day DL today, and he isn’t likely coming off of it anytime soon. His exam yesterday revealed a blood clot in his axillary vein, according to the Tigers, due to something called thoracic outlet compression syndrome. A quick search on the web defines this as compression of the vessels and nerves between the neck and shoulder. He underwent an angioplasty this morning.

Look for Dontrelle Willis to take his spot in the rotation starting Sunday, with Armando Galarraga starting on Monday. Look for more on the site today. I’m off this weekend, so you’ll have to talk/grouse/discuss amongst yourselves.

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I’m praying for a quick and complete recovery for Jeremy. It sounds like this could be a pretty serious issue, and I’m glad he was able to get it taken care of quickly. I hope Bondo knows that all Tiger fans are pulling for him to make a complete recovery.

Us “grouse”, wha?!..us??…no way!
I guess, ONE good thing, HOPEFULLY the surgery will bring back his MPH and bite on his slider.

I agree with happy.There are afew things that are more important than wins losses or era. This sounds like one of them.I hope he fully recovers

Good luck to Bonderman on getting healthy. He will be missed. You always know when Jeremy is on the mound he is giving it everything he has, even when he doesn’t have his best stuff. You have to admire that he never wants to come out of the game. Injuries like this are scary and change the perspective of the importance of baseball games. Best wishes to Bondo. Hopefully all the other guys can relax a bit and remember that baseball is just a game and not to try and press so much.

Angioplasty? Holy cow.
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Good luck Bondo. Enjoy your family while you recover.
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What sort of activities can cause these compression syndromes?
Thoracic outlet syndrome has been described as occurring in a diverse population. It is most often the result of poor or strenuous posture but can also result from trauma or constant muscle tension in the shoulder girdle.
Static postures such as those sustained by assembly line workers, cash register operators, students of, for example, those who do needle work often result in a drooping shoulder and forward head posture. This position of the shoulders and head is also indicative of poor upper body posture. Middle aged and elderly women who suffer from osteoporosis often display this type of posture as a result of increased thoracic spinal kyphosis.

Carrying heavy loads, briefcases and shoulder bags can also lead to neurovascular compression. Humans are not well adapted as beasts of burden and heavy loads hung form the shoulders and arms can stress the supporting structures of the shoulder girdle which is basically suspended by the clavicle and all of the component ligaments and muscles.

Occupations which require repetitive over head arm movements can also produce symptoms of compression . Electricians, painters and plasterers may develop hyperabduction syndrome. Compression of the neurovascular structures also occurs in athletes who repetitively hyperabduct their arms. Swimmers, volleyball players, tennis players and baseball pitchers may suffer compression of the neurovascular structures as well. However, compression of these structures may be caused by stretching or microtrauma (small tears in muscle tissue) to the muscles which support the scapula.
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Once a diagnosis is decided, every effort is made for a conservative treatment approach. That means it won’t hurt. Should symptoms persist over 3 or 4 months or if there is intractable pain, vascular loss or neuralgic loss then surgery should be considered. Surgery is consistent in relieving pain but muscle weakness and atrophy do not usually improve significantly.
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So, Dan, unless your life consists of being suspended in 0 gravity 24 hours a day, you’re pretty much susceptible to this condition. Not to make light of it, but you’re listing of the hazards or pre conditions didn’t leave anyone out.
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My prayers go out to Jeremy and his family as well. May he have a complete recovery. He was actually one of the lone bright spots on this team, delivering some consistent quality starts. The Tigers may not have an answer for the loss of Jeremy….. It just keeps getting worse.

There’s no way you bring back a 25-year old man with a young family this season. And an angioplasty w/ thrombolysis is not going to add MPH or more bite on a slider, as was ridiculously posted above. This was a potentially life threatening condition. At least that scenario has been averted.
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Since the usual causes of the compression probably aren’t present, it appears the cause was continually snapping off that slider. Jeremy Jeremy, why didn’t you pick up a third pitch? The most positive outcome, from a baseball perspective, is that he can pitch again. Ever. Other than that, I’m just glad he’s still with us.
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–Rich

I agree, Rich.
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Luckily, they were home this weekend and near a good hospital so he could get treated right away.
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Yeah, you’re right. If this had happened last weekend, they may have taken him to Seattle Grace Hospital. From what I’ve seen of “Grey’s Anatomy”, he’d have been a goner!
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–Rich

Bondo recover quickly, but take your time and come back next year.

Ok, has anyone else been watching the sports ticker waiting to see that the Tigers have made a trade? Lets face the facts here, its time to move on to next year. The Tigers need to trade Rogers, Jones, Renteria, Pudge, and I hate to say it but also Mags, Polanco and Guillen away. I know, go ahead and say it, but this needs to happen.

The way I see it is if we keep putting these guys out on the field everyday we are not going to win anyway so lets trade these guys away and get alot of value for them. Mags could get us three guys to put in the line-up for next year. Lets go out and get alot of young talent and have them compete with the guys in Toledo, Erie, and GR for a spot on the team for the forseable future.

I mean getting rid of some of these guys does not mean that the team can’t win, but trading some players away gives Jim the chance to place a line-up on the field that can play defense and hopefully get some timely hits. Look a line-up of
Granderson (cf), Santiago(ss), Thames (Lf), Cabrera (1st), Larrish (dh), Clevland(rf), Hessman (3b), Holliman(2b), Inge (c) is going to either be better, or worse, then the current line-up, but at least we would have a ton of young talent to build around Justin, Curtis, Miguel, and Bondo.

I hate to say it buts lets start rebuilding.

Wishing the best to him. Health comes above everything else.

This should open a bullpen slot for Lopez … on Bereavement list …. Look at how that worked out.
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I mean … is Lopez really grieving? Sorry if i missed the reason he was put on that list.

Cabrera ha sbeen watching Maggs I guess. 1st pitch swinging.
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I saw a quote, forom McLendonon I believe, that stated they wanted to see Cabrera using all fields. I disagree. I think his problem is that he is using all fields. Too many fly outs to right center and ground outs to second. i think he needs to start pulling the ball to restore his confidence.

Not sure what the numbers are. but it seems to me that Rogers hits quite a few batters.

Looks we are going to see nice polite baseball agian today.
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Dan, I think thats his 4th HBP.Ties him for 2nd on team with Galarraga.Verlander leads with 7.Bondo had 3

Man another HBP–and with 2 strikes on him. It hurt him last time and now they got something going again.

Let’s hope the nice DP can pick these guys up now.

It makes it tough when Granderson and Polanco aren’t hittign the way they used to doesn’t it? Curtis out today but Polanco isn’t hitting right. I think he is one of those guys that JL referred to as “swinging under water”.
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Raburn is showing Ordonez how to play RF today. He held Grady to a single in the first, made a great catch to save 2 runs in the 2nd and just threw a bullet to just about nip Guttierez at 3rd after Kenny’s error.
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Pretty poor play by Kenny on that bunt. He does not often make bad plays or bad decisions.
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Critical run for the Tribe because it is so bloody hard for this Tiger club to plate runners.

Sorry—I mean Francisco not Guttierez.

Dang…well RR clearly is showing us he knows how to play today, which I am glad.
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It’s nice they have Bondo’s jersey hanging in the dugout.
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These 2 errors are killing us today though, darnit.

Didnt know Ryan had an arm like that.Reminds me of Kaline a little bit.CG 2DP and a a2run homer.He is playing some good ball today.Arm looked pretty good on that slow roller.Glad to see he hasnt tanked it yet

Cabrera continues to hit to cavernous CF and RCF. McLendon can tell him to use the wole field all he wants but the thing that is going to turn him around is when starts to yard the ball and not keep it in the field with long harmless fly outs.
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Anemic hitting continues.

Inge up and no sign of a bunt!

I don’t get it

OK Ok relax Dan. They did after all. Nice bunt Brandon.

I can just hear JL now, “All I want is a lousy single!”
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Me too Jim.

you may be right about hitting Cab 3rd.If can learn to lay off waste pitche they wont want to walk him too much with Mags on deck

Man–no lousy single and no clutch hitting. Where has the magic gone?

I think it is worth a try Bruce. JL certainly has the guts to make the move and take the heat for it. I just think he does not see the value in the move. I haven’t seen anything else work and I think they really need to come up with something.

Middle of the lineup needs to come through for us. No 1st pitch swinging please Magglio (unless you have men on 2nd andthird with no out).
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Be nice to see these guys steal one and a few smiles.
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Thames just crushed one!

every team pitches Cab the same,1st pich inside 6inch 2nd pitch inside 6 inche but he swingz 1st pich half the time

I would be thinking about pinch running for Magglio here.

excuse me 1st pich out 2nd in.hope they give marcus a chanc to play regular for a while

That’s what I have been hoping for–to see him start PULLING the ball. But he also needs to remember his baserunning obligations too. He should have been on 2nd base easy.

good AB by Raburn…wear out the relief pitcher…I guess. Too bad he couldn’t get a hit off of all those fastballs taht he likes so much.

RENTERIA!!!!!!!!!
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that was clutch!

Game of the week has just picked up the Tiger broadcast

He has been really streaky and fortunately ee was due for positive streak.
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Even witout the GS he had a very nice game. Even backhanded one in the hole today and had a strong throw to just miss getting Blake.

JL……bring up Blaine Neal. We need late-inning relief help.

How about that 4 run save for Jones,but I`ll take it Do I smell all star berth ummm maybe not

Nice to see our Left-Fielder come through……..again.
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Not sure what they are gonna do with Raburn but he is pretty much an automatic out at the plate. He had a nice game defensively.
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A little late, but my thoughts and prayers go out to JB. We’re all rooting for your recovery, and please take your time coming back. This does indeed put things in perspective.

3 HRs today. And a victory. I think there is a correlation.

Good luck to Bondo. He was very consistent this year and no matter the outcome always gave it his best effort. You can never say he didn’t give 100%.
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Nice win today, I certianly didn’t think they had it in them. Betencourt is on my fantasy team he is killing me this year. But as I have said before if it takes me losing fantasy, to have us win or have the Indians lose, I will sacrafice.??? No thanks necessary ha ha.
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Nice job to Renteria, Guillen Thames. Some nice catches out there by Clevlen and Raburn as well.
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Going to the game tomorrow, I am sure they will lose.

GK relax. They will win tomorrow.
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On another note–Freddie Guzman is really hitting well for Toledo..
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I sure hope Curtis and Polanco can get their acts together.
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I also feel a strange confidence after this game, Dan. Not used to it. Can they finally begin to turn things around? Hopefully Thames, Inge, and Clevlen are in the lineup tomorrow. I liked the lineup today except bat Cabrera 3rd and Thames 5th. Seems like most of us are in favor of Cabrera hitting 3rd. Now if JL would only listen….. Given some playing time, Thames will continue to hit HR’s.
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Hoot, they’re not done yet. Give them June and then see where they’re at. Mags is not on my list to trade though.

Whoever had the idea to hang Bonderman’s jersey in the dugout, good move. Not only a nice gesture but something to rally around. I did like Bondo’s response, “I’m not dead yet.”
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We saw again THE reason to have Thames in the lineup more often than not. You can’t put a price on those sudden longballs, and he hit this one off the RH pitcher. Jim, you’ve got to keep him in there, no matter what. How do we get that through your head? JL had a nice piece of managing, I thought, earlier in the game when Inge was up with a man on first and no one out. He let Brandon have a rip at the first one then put in the sacrifice bunt. That’s something that isn’t used much anymore.
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I’ve always liked Clevlen’s defense, and that was one fine catch he made out there. Huge. Raburn had what looked like a good one, but I couldn’t tell from watching the grainy archived game if he wouldn’t have been better off taking a different route to the ball. Maybe it rose on him. Anyway, it’s the result that counts, and the outfielders kept Rogers in the game there for awhile.
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Dan, you are definitely right about Cabrera pulling the ball. When he does that, we see the dangerous hitter he’s supposed to be. He smoked that one in the eighth, I mean that one left a vapor trail. Whoever is telling him to go to all fields better shut up.
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We play better when Inge is in the game. Inge-haters will just have to deal with that.
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Some props are in order for Zach Miner. He finally allowed a run today in the ninth after a whole string of zeroes.
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What is up with this Betancourt character? Last year he was unhittable and this year he’s terrible. How does that happen?
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I’ll be glad to be back in the mix tomorrow after being “outFOXed” for today’s game. Next Saturday I can pick up the Fox broadcast on the spanish station, which is channel 425 for those of you who have DirecTV.
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–Rich

I want to second what Rich said above and repeat that you’ve got to keep putting Marcus in the lineup. How many big homers does this guy have to hit to make the old man realize he is needed in there? And yes it was against a right hander so I think all this left/right matchup stuff is overrated.

Also on the Cabrera hit. I couldn’t help but wonder where that has been all year. Gives me hope that he will turn it around yet and yes he should concentrate more on pulling the ball.

And I couldn’t have been happier with Betancourt being the one who gave up the grand slam. That guy drives me crazy with his minute and half between pitches.

Hoping for the best with D-Train today but gotta wonder how long he’ll be able to walk a bunch of hitters and not get hurt. Bullpen should be on full alert today. Good news is that Sowers should be hittable.

Aklos, I think Galarraga is going today and Willis tomorrow.
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Galarraga needs to minimize the bases on balls. He tends to a “fine-tuner” and this sometimes results in a less than desirable BB/IP ratio. The good thing is he usually finds a way to get out of an inning when he needs to.
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Tigers need to be a tad more selective at the plate and try to get into the Indian bullpen.

I read elsewhere that the recovery time for an injury like Bonderman can be anywhere form 6 months to a year.

I actually like what i see JL trying to do today.
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He’s getting Granderson in against the LHP who is not as overpowering as Lee would be tomorrow. I doubt he will play tomorrow. Also, lowering him in the order might help to take a little pressure off him right away. I would have liked to have seen Inge in there but I understand that they think this may be an opportunity to A) get Pudge going against a LHP or B) give Clevlen a chance to see what he can do.
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A few runs now would be good. “G”-man throwing well, except for a couple of fastballs. Curtis experiment looking good. Renteria seems to have picked up his game lately.
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Pudge looks, well kinda like what we have gotten used to.
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Boy do we ever have some bright OF hopefuls in the system. Clevlen, Thomas, Joyce, Ramirez.

Darn Walks–he has gotta get garko

G-man always seems to throw well but give up a couple. Pretty dependable I guess even though he is not a shutdown type pitcher.
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Fossum is not the guy I would want to see in this situation. Seems a bit to experimental and contrived to me.
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Sure hope I am way off on this.

Top of 8 now. Ellarton has really put the clamps on the hitters after comin in. We have seen this happen a lot this year when a starter has been knocked out early.
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This one will be interesting before it’s through.

Nice start forAG.2 DP forCG.Maybe theyre turning it around Keep it up

This is a big game with important implications either way it goes. If they lose this it could restart the losing trend all over again at the worst time possible.
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If they win it will show a little character and perhps change the momentum.
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We really (and I know Miner’s numbers were good recently) need a dependable late inning reliever. I don’t think Miner is the guy.
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Now we are looking to a rookie for help.

Holy S-M-O-K-E!.
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Now that was an impressive performance under extremely difficult circumstances.
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TJ gets to come in and do his specialty—the 3 run lead save.

Holy Toledo Mudhens! Dolsi blew them away!
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See GK, we told you they’d get the win today…………then we crossed our fingers:)

I havent been this excited over 2 game win streak since 2003 Good Job Bring on the lefties

And looked good doin’ it!.
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Good to see Granderson, Polanco and Cab provide some punch.
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What happens to a guy who hits over .370 with a homer every 8 bats in Spring Training ( 8 HRs/ 59 AB) to hitting .245 with 1 homer in 200 plate appearances?
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Pudge got an important hit today but just looks awful 80% of the time. He just doe not use any kind of plate discipline with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 out. Far to fixated on putting the ball into the air for a Sac/Fly maybe.
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Anyway, that was a very nice win.

These are the kinds of wins I like to see. The blowout victories don’t do much for team confidence, but these do. And they looked sharp. Finally.
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I’ve agreed with Leyland for two days in a row now, which must be some kind of record. :-) You might think bringing in Miner for a second consecutive day isn’t smart, but if he’s the current setup man, he needs to be able to double up appearances, especially in important games. This will be taken care of with Zumaya. The way Dolsi has looked, it could get interesting watching the late bullpen work.
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I’m just accepting Pudge now as an excellent catcher that doesn’t hit well. Most catchers don’t, so this isn’t a disaster. He just needs to hit down in the 9 hole to decrease his number of ABs. He had one good AB (a big one too) then struck out three times. So be it.
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Clevlen does look much improved over the hitter we’ve seen in the past. Nothing to show for it, but he’s 100% improved at the plate. That throw he made today, I saw him make the same throw in Cleveland in 2006 and it brought me up out of my seat. I like his defense, so just a little hitting would help.
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Jonesie is having a good year, limited as it’s been. :-) He’s going to blow one sooner or later, all closers do, and I hope we don’t jump all over him when it happens.
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Now we need a big moment from Dontrelle tomorrow. But for now, I’m off to have a big juicy steak.
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–Rich

Maybe Pudge saw a lot of mediocre pitchers in smaller ballparks to get those 8 homeruns and .370 BA during spring training. I agree with you that he looks horrible at bat. He strikes out a lot on low outside pitches, hits into ground ball outs and sometimes double plays.

Whay does the future hold for Galarraga? I know some of these names may not bring happy memories, but they were pitchers who helped for awhile and were then discarded by the Tigers. Gary Knotts, Sean Douglass, and Chad Durbin each became starters when someone got hurt. Even Zach Miner did well when Maroth went down and, I don’t believe, has started a game since. I fear the same future for Galarraga if the Tigers try to go with Verlander, Rogers, Bonderman, Robertson, and Willis in 2009. Even if Rogers retires, will the Tigers go out and get another starter like Sidney Ponson without giving Galarraga a chance? There is a pattern.

actually got back from the game a little bit ago. Was very hot and to say the least didn’t probably smell the best and took a shower. Very hot at the game, but as long as we won that is okay with me. Granderson had a great shot, actually there were a few guys that hit the ball real hard and it was still an out.
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Galarraga was great to begin with and then looked like he had a little trouble. Fossum was pretty good, Miner was disappointing, but luckily Dolsi was able to pick him up.
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And your right about Jones he has done pretty well, and he will eventually blow one they all do. People I hope give him a break. To me the booing is getting pretty bad at the stadium, and frankly I don’t like it. When Miner was still pitching today, they started booing him and I was sitting there thinking the guy is still pitching right now, is it going to do him any good booing him while he is still trying to get out of it??? Not smart.

gk glad you were able to see a Tiger win today. You are right about the booing. If the Tigs are going to make any noise this season, they are going to need contributions from everyone on this team. So Miner had a bad outing–he surely isn’t the reason this team is where it is. We don’t need to make another Grilli out of him.

We just gotta win tomorrow. No ifs and buts about it. These were two nice victories, but three out of four going into the Sox series gives us some momentum. A loss would stall that and perhaps puts us right back where we were before this series mentally.

–Ed–

Not only that, Ed, but Cleveland is ahead of us in the standings. You don’t make up ground by splitting with those teams. We’ll need 3 out of 4 between now and Thursday.
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The boobirds came out in force during the sixth game of the season. The sixth. That was that ESPN game with Chicago and ESPN likes to do a lot of dugout shots. I saw a lot of stunned looking Tigers and I think being booed in their own ballpark was a part of that. So now we’ve played badly for two months. How much did the events of that evening have to do with the continued losing? Cabrera’s poor play? The entire team pressing? Something to think about.
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Some knucklehead will say “they’re professional athletes, man, they should be able to take it.” Ballplayers say different. Like Ed said, they’ll need contributions from everyone on this team, and I’ll include their so-called supporters.
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–Rich

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