Grilli's response

Our Rockies reporter, Thomas Harding, told Jason Grilli about Leyland’s remarks. This was Grilli’s response:

“I think I was mis-noted or misaligned, or what I said was taken out of context. And to get comments from Leyland thinking that I was bashing the Tigers is not what I was saying. It’s pretty interesting because I try to stay fair and objective in my statements. I’m very cautious in what I say. I’m not the GM. I’m not the manager. I don’t know everything. All I was simply saying was I was asked to make a comment about where the Tigers were. I was there for the whole experience, from the end of ’05 to when I got traded over here. All I was doing was making a comparison of what I’ve seen and what I’ve been through. All I was basically saying was the balance and the camaraderie and stuff that I saw in ’06 slowly faded out. That’s all I said. That’s basically in a nutshell summarizing it. That’s basically all I said. I wasn’t throwing anybody under the bus. I love everybody over there. I’ve never had a problem or an issue with any teammate or any coaching staff over there. I’m not here to start a verbal war in the paper just because I’m with a different team, the grass-is-greener-over-here type of thing.”

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ugh jason grilli is a effing girl scout. can’t handle pressure, can’t handle leads, can’t handle the baseball, can’t handle his wifes undies. for a guy who by all rights should be playing in the minors the past 2-3 years to complain about the tigers and the organization as a whole, is just out of his friggen mind. i dont care if he ‘misspoke’ or was ‘mis-represented’ or ‘mis-remembers’ his experience as a tiger. the FANS know the truth. honest, loyal, baseball fans, KNOW who he is, and he deserved every single BOO that ever went his way. His comments today prove it. I HATE BASEBALL PLAYERS THAT MAKE EXCUSES WHEN THEY GET DUMPED OR TRADED.
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i make crap for money compaired to these guys, and you’ll never see me blaming management or co-workers for things. you get paid, you better do your job. PERIOD.
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JL was right to bash him. JL was right to address clubhouse ‘angst’ he was right to do everything he did today. who the hell is carlos guillen to complain. management has tried to do everything to accomodate him and his weak knees. this is a guy that can’t figure out that you shouldn’t throw your leg out in front of the runner at 1B. guillen has now pissed me off. complain all you want, carlos, but if you can’t manage the easiest position in baseball (CATCH THE FRIGGEN BALL) at 1B, then you have no, and i mean NO right to complain. i was 2B in little league, converted in a season to 1B in Jr high and played it throughout highschool (i’m a lefty). all you have to to is CATCH THE BALL. no one in their right mind, will throw their left leg into oncoming traffic down the line. thats like one of us driving down your local freeway/highway in the wrong direction.
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blame who you want. inge. well.. he’s pissed. who cares. his 220 average doesn’t impress me. guillen. ‘wah i lost my job at SS and now i have to relearn how to play baseball. wah. my 12 million$$$$ contract doesn’t include this’… sheff ‘wah i’m hurt, i’m broken, i’m old, i’m an easy out. waaaah’
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back to my original point, for jason friggen grilli to say one foul or misprinted word about the tigers, who gave him the everyday chance, to play in the big leagues, is absolutely insanity. this guy is a minor league pitcher who got rocked and can’t live up to the expectations of him, in detroit sports, or the pressure of a runner on first with 2 outs.
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fantastic hitting and patience going on right now. 5-1 tigers. lets hope it holds

I think Mike and Grilli are doing fine without me, so I’ll let that lay. Interesting to hear about the atmoshpere, though. It isn’t really a question of whether the atmosphere is bad because they are losing, or whether they are losing because the atmosphere is bad. The two things build on each other. What’s important is finding a way out. I like JL’s comments–the way out is looking in the mirror and playing better baseball.

I hate to harp, but I just wonder how long they stick with Sheff. If they’re going to play him, at least put him in the number 6 slot or lower.

hitting sure is contagious isn’t it? way to drive in the run grandy. 6-1

nice hit polanco!!!! 7-1 (even though i think granderson was out, i dont even think he touched the home..)
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but hey!!!! who cares! 7-1!!! go tigers!

Renteria has 4 RBI’s ..

now that they score so many today.. i hope they can come back with some more tomorrow … we know our tigers ..

Larish and Holimon hit a couple more today. Holimon has 12 now and he is hitting about .265-.270 .
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He’s another guy blocked from advancement as he is a 2nd baseman.
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I do wonder what they will do with Larish? His prospects would sure be different if he could play OF.

MAybe we could trade Sheff for Sexon…

Rentoria is streaky, and we knew that from the beginning. I’ve been saying to lay off the guy, but many want to criticize him. I wonder if everyone still thinks he’s a minus for the team.

so sheff and joyce don’t have hits yet .. joyce has a walk and a Run .. and he doesn’t hit 3rd :) ..

I think JL figures to give him this series to break out of his slump .. as good a chance as any.. or hopefully, he is gone after that ..

I understand that Sheff has been in a monster slump this year, but in his defense for TONIGHT, he has crushed the ball at 3rd his last 2 at bats, just seems to be right at Beltre.

Nice to see that they can still go yard. When you can do that or when you can threaten to do that, you change the game.

I know that I should be happy that we got a win and I am, but the way the pitching let off at the end of the game, is distressing to me. I just hope the one and only thing that has been good this year (the pen), well this isn’t the next thing that will inflict the Tigers staff. Granted some of those were bloopers and dribblers, but geez, too many walks. And why was Rapada facing all thos righties??? Was it an experiment??? Kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Justin was excellent, and finally got a bit of run support, and most of the hitters were excellent as well.
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Have tickets to the game tomorrow, lets hope they saved something in their bats for me.

If anyone is interested in hearing the JL rant…here is a link.
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http://www.971theticket.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=2266977
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It was good to see the offense get going….let’s hope they can keep it going. GO TIGERS!!

From surfing around various boards, forums, and blogs after tonight’s game, I’ve discovered that we have a problem with the bullpen and Sheffield needs to go.
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From observing the behavior of our fans at the game tonight, I’ve discovered that they hate the bullpen and Sheffield.
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Lost in all this is a Tigers win. Well, far be it for me to allow a stupid win to interfere with everyone’s fun.
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Fun for me was watching Renteria get FOUR hits and drive in FIVE runs. Edgar was saying “Sit down Razor, you don’t have my job yet. And Rich? Shut up!” :-) The best thing I saw was Granderson stroking one to left. There was some good early work there with McClendon by both guys. Guillen absolutely crushed that one to center, and Maggs finally accomplished what he’d been trying to do with all that first ball swinging lately. Cabrera may be heating up. Runners were put in motion. Verlander might be in the swing of it, if he was ever indeed out of it. And the most fun part was imagining everyone thinking “Thank God, here comes Todd Jones.” Regardless of what individuals did, I saw a lineup that piled up 12 runs on 17 hits. That’s a good lineup tonight. Doesn’t matter who the pitchers were, this is what they’re supposed to do.
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I will say I could have done without those three errors we committed, but it’s a win. I think the only sport where perfection is possible is bowling.
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–Rich

Went to the game last night and a couple of observations:
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This is gonna sound weird but, most of the players seemed more ‘focused’ at the plate. It was more of a body language thing…the stride to the plate, the way the watch the ball come in, etc. I go to the games about once a series and it appeared they were ‘lackluster’. But last night they looked like they were confident hitters ready to hit. The only two that didn’t appear that way were Pudge and Sheff.
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Speaking of Shef…he got some boos in the middle of the game after giving up a hit. But at his last at bat, he got majorly booed…we are talking Grilli type loudness! The pitchers didn’t even get that when giving up those runs…
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Speaking of pitchers…I was not a fun scene watching Rapada go from a 0.9something ERA to 4.something…Also it was amazing listening to people asking for Jones, and applauding him greatly when he came out.
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I noticed something on Joyce last night also…he has a habit of faking a throw before he actually throws the ball back…it is like he is gonna scare the runner into stopping. I seen him do that twice last night. Don’t remember him doing that before.
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Smaller crowd. Not early 2000 type crowd, but the smallest I think I have seen this year. Attendence was about 39500, but it was less then that…there were big areas all over the place with no one sitting there.
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…that’s the way it is…(oh sorry, showing my age)

It was nice seeing the Tigers put up some runs last night. It was also great seeing some hit and runs, too bad Magglio couldn’t make it to 3rd on a slow hit ball to left. If he ran hard all the way there is no reason he shouldn’t be on 3rd no matter how slow he is (any Minnesota twin would not have slowed down, that’s just the way they play). Cabrera getting doubled off on 2nd was another minor league play not to mention the outfielders errors. It is nice to put up some runs and win a game, but baseball is a game of “little things” and there are still many “little things” that should be better.

Once again, Sheffield (0 for 5, .180 average) was batting 3rd. When I think of successful teams like the ’84 Tigers, the Yankees, the Red Sox, etc, what they have in common is how often they score in the first inning and play the game with a lead. Scoring in the first gives the starters some room to relax and pitch with confidence. This is a luxury that the ’08 Tigers hitters have not provided. How can you put up runs in the first when your #3 batter is an easy out? Magglio and Cabrera should be hitting sac flys instead of making the 3rd out on a deep fly ball. It’s been 45 games, can we please move Sheffield to the bottom 3rd of the order? I will re-nominate Renteria to be the #3 hitter.

Good morning everyone! I am just wondering why we haven’t heard anything about Timo Perez. He was a big sparkplug last year. His stats this year aren’t so hot, but they never have been in the minors. I am just wondering what you all think of Timo, and was his performance last year just a fluke? GO TIGERS

Leave it to the 08 Tigers to almost steal defeat from the jaws of victory. I feel like the thunder of this victory was definitely stolen by a suspect middle relief job. 11-1 after 6 wasn’t it? Wow, if they’d have blown this one, the season is done, period. They came very close.

Was this just another one of their hot games where everyone hits and they pile on the runs or are they going to legitimately begin to hit like they’re supposed to? We’ll see….Gagn pointed out some of the sloppyness that would have killed the Tigers had they not built up such a huge lead.

There were a lot of positives in this game and Rich did a good job touching on them, so I won’t repeat.

My two cents in light of last night’s bullpen inability to really shut the door…..When Willis comes back, how about Nate becoming the long/set up man in the bullpen and send Rapada down? Would this maybe work?

Marty– stop trying to steal my idea on Robertson. :) I completely agree with everyone’s comments but I have a different take on the game last night: this is the ’08 Tigers we expected, a dynamite offense, strong starting pitching and no bullpen. :)

Honestly, I listened the first 6.5 innings and when Lopez started to struggle, I turned it off. I just had a feeling that the bullpen was due for a bad game and I figured that I would be a danger to society had they lost the game. I’m glad to see that the bullpen pitched poorly but we still held on. As far as the fan’s behavior, I don’t get that at all. The Yankees fans boo their players– I always thought the Tigers fans were more classy.

Nine games under .500 and still only 6.5 games back. Lets hope Rogers can keep the momentum going and our offense can score some more early runs tonight.

Well…….first, Yelg, great link to JL’s comments. Loved it. Glad he got pissed, someone has to besides us bloggers and fans booing players.

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As far as the boo’s at the stadium…and I have said it before. These are grown men. We all are. If you don’t do your job the right way, you should hear about it…from the coaches, other players, fans, etc…. I don’t know about any of you, but when I screw up at work, I don’t get a pat on the back and a bologna sandwich. I get b*tched at by my boss.

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Anyway, I guess I have been alittle ticked the last two posts, so hopefully my next one after this will be alittle calmer.

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As for the game…I liked seeing the box score…besides the bullpen of course. BUT, weren’t WE the ones saying the bullpen was doing well and now all of a sudden I see these posts on here saying it is a problem, after one game? uhhh…that doesn’t make much sense to me.

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A win, is a win, is a win…..bottom line.

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After my comments about Renny yesterday, leave it to him to make me look foolish…I’ll take it that way everytime. Maybe this time I should start on someone else…I would on Sheff, but I know that wouldn’t make a difference…he can’t hit a bull in the a*s with a bass fiddle.

Just a quick comment on last night’s bullpen. Rapada is here to be a LH specialist. JL gave him an inning to work, which includes RH hitters, and it didn’t work out so well. I’m not concerned with that. Lopez has been great and it didn’t bother me that he gave up a couple over two innings with a 12-1 lead. Again, no one is perfect all the time. Cruceta wasn’t really hit all that hard. If fault absolutely must be assigned here, it would go to Leyland for using Rapada, but I didn’t think that was a bad move. Why does there always have to be blame assigned to things, anyway? It was just a baseball game that we won.
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I can only surmise that all this negative behavior at the ballpark comes from the same people who suddenly jumped on the bandwagon after the Cabrera deal. They bought tickets to games and now they feel cheated when we don’t play perfect baseball. I guess they just don’t understand the game.
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Sheffield was getting booed as if he were Hitler or somebody. In a game we were winning easily. Sure, none of us wants a #3 hitter who hits .180, but come on. Sheff gets booed everywhere he goes for some reason. Other than him being an ex-Yankee, I can’t figure that out for the life of me. When our fans behave that way, we sound more like Philadelphia or New York. Now if he were to go on a tear, those same people would be cheering. That’s weak. And if he does go, who will the next designated villain be?
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Since I ended up getting into the Sheffield thing (which I didn’t intend to do), he’s being given every chance to turn it around. This is why players love Leyland. It will reach a point, sure, when he may have to be pulled, but he gets the same opportunity these other slumping guys get IMO.
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–Rich

Hey Ty, I understand where you’re going with the grown men thing. The difference I see with the workplace analogy is, if I mess up at work, it’s the manager that lets me know. It’s not a bunch of yahoos out there who have no idea how I do my job anyway. :-)
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That would be interesting, 40,000 people pay admission to see us work………….that would be some bored folks. And I bet we’d get booed. :-)
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–Rich

Touche, Rich, touche.

(and no, that didn’t mean touchy) LOL

Would be something to see, though, if we did our jobs in big stadiums full of spectators.
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“Pick up the phone on the FIRST ring, you bum!”
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“This guy can’t get a straight line to save him, those pieces won’t fit together. BOOOO!”
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“He’s a minute late back from every lunch. Get that bum outta here! BOOO!”
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“What is it about implanting that cardiac stent that this clown doesn’t understand? Worthless bum! BOOO!”
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“This guy got us into this war and now……”
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Oops. Disregard that last one. :-)
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–Rich

JL looks like he has a pretty thick skin but he is actually a pretty sensitive individual. When he says he protects his players he is right. He actually protects them too much. Grilli was given way more rope than he should have. Sheffield too. It’s not just a slump for Sheffield. Slumps are something that a player overcomes. My objection is to keep playing him in the hopes he comes out of it. I don’t think he can because he is not slumping, he is playing with an injury that restiricts his movement. My objection is putting him into LF when he complained that DHing made him lose focus. Again, that would not have been so bad if it were not the fact that he is injured.
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As far as reaching a point where he may have to be pulled, well I would argue that that point has been reached already, twice.
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I don’t despise the guy or even dislike him. I just say that when you see writign on the wall, you should read it.
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This team needs an effective DH, whether he be a full-time guy or a rotation of plyers. The popups, weak flies, 2 hop ground balls to third and the untimely double plays coming from the DH spot are exacerbating a struggling offense.
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JL has probably scared off some media and thwarted some fan criticism by the “clubhouse” issue. I hope he has not done more harm than good as far as that issue is concerned. He came on pretty strong and threatening.
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I thought he was a little over the top regarding the comment that Guillen made. We all know these things are taken out of context, and pretty much all the time. Guillen is one of the more reliable ambassadors the team (and the sport) has. He has (and keep in mind I have criticized him in the past for being a little to nonchalant in the field) been one of those guys who is willing to change to benefit the team. He is upstanding man, maybe even noble and to hear JL go off publicly on a tangent over a statement made (an maybe out of context)…well I was surprised.
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It would also be good to see some reconcilation with the revolving door in LF. Nobody can develop any continuity there. Joyce has been good and has had moments where he was the only thing worth watching, but he is probably not going to be a permananet solution there. I would rather see someone man that position pretty much on a daily basis but I think JL actually likes the fact that he has one position that allows him to “manage” and give him the opportunity to spread some playing time around.
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I really liked how Verlander pitched yesterday. He slowed his pace down enough to where he actually was able to think about pitch selection and not just get into a robotic and almost arrogant rythym. He has lost enough of his velocity that he has to be smarter out on the mound and he did that to perfection yesterday.
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Rich made a god point about Cruceta. He actually did what they needed him too–he got a couple of ground balls but unfortunately they had eyes. I think he’s gonna be OK. Not sure what happens with Bautista when he is ready but I am not too optimistic about him. He just walks too many.
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Hopefully, the club can string some victories together and start winning some series. They will have more adversity to deal with and a healthy happy time is better equipped to handle whatever comes. Even Rodney and Zumaya coming back will challenge the complexion of the team.
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Rich – I was literally laughing at my desk at those quotes…good stuff! I needed that…

Glad to help, Ty. :-)
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Dan, I don’t disagree with any of that. This sort of reminds me of the Monroe situation last year. When is the right time to pull the trigger? That went on for quite some time, if memory serves. Leyland is very loyal to his horses, that’s a fact. I personally had been looking forward to Sheff’s ability to extend rallies, but just the opposite has been happening. Since we got 12 runs last night, I expect Sheff back as DH and hitting third tonight and tomorrow. After that, it may be done with. Let’s keep our fingers crossed, we could use this guy.
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I was also surprised that JL singled out Guillen. What we don’t know is what was said in private. I recall Herb Brooks, coaching the famous 1980 USA hockey team, and how he used Mike Eruzione as the whipping boy in order to get the rest of the squad in line. The thing is, Brooks told Eruzione in advance that he’d be doing that. Not saying that’s happening here, but the guys involved do have the advantage of discussing it without us listening in.
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We get a lefty tonight.
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–Rich

Rich, you may have a good point there. For JL to make a point to go after one of the on the field “leaders” and a guy that has been with the team a while in public like that could provide a spark for the rest of the guys to get in line. I hadn’t read into it like that.
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I do know that last night I saw something different in the eyes of the players last night and a determination at the plate that has only been seen a few times this year. Granted they are playing a team that’s struggling, but so are the Tigs so we have to take all we can get.
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Hopefully there is similar effort tonight.
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Rich & Jason, you are right. I think this whole media mess could turn out one of two ways.

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1) The players finally come together as a “team”

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2) The finger pointing and “weak excuses” continue till there is no hope left and the team finally breaks apart and crumbles.

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I guess time will tell. Although, I don’t think we will have to wait long. In the next few games/series, we will be able to tell if the players cure enough to all put forth their “best effort.”

*care enough

As a poster on another blog put it, this wouldn’t be the first time Grilli has ignited an offense. Good ol’ Gascan.
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–Rich

Great comment Rich though I think Grilli was just an easy whipping boy for Leyland. I’m not sure if Leyland’s rant was premeditated but it was bound to happen. I agree that there’s two outcomes: it either ignites the team or it helps tear them apart. My stance is: what would be left to tear apart? If that happens, they’re already in last place. On the flip side, its much more likely to bring them together. Hitting, pitching, and most importantly winning are all contagious. Remember two years ago when the starters went on an amazing tear and it seemed like each pitcher was trying to outdo the previous one? That’s the type of mentality this team needs to develop and if Leyland’s kick in the pants helps to get us there, so be it. If it doesn’t work, well, Leyland’s probably not going to be the coach much longer… I’m still thinking it will work and I’m still thinking that the Tigers will win the World Series… yes, I’m an optimist.

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