Granderson to split rehab

Curtis Granderson had a little difficulty in his first round of batting practice today, mainly dealing with a pad that had been sewn onto his batting glove to protect his hand, but he looked good at the plate after taking the padded glove off and just going without padding. He was slated to do some running and throwing before the game as a final test, but unless something goes wrong with that, he’s expected to be sent out tonight on a rehab assignment beginning Friday.

Since Triple-A Toledo doesn’t return home until Saturday, Granderson is likely going to play at Class A West Michigan on Friday before joining the Mud Hens for Saturday and Sunday. If he needs another day on Monday (and it’s likely he will, since Jim Leyland would like him to get 20-25 at-bats), he would probably do that at West Michigan, since Toledo is off.

UPDATE @ 7:15pm: It’s official. Granderson is headed home tonight, then to West Michigan for tomorrow night’s game, then to Toledo on Saturday and Sunday unless something goes wrong.

Not much else going on here in Cleveland, other than another warm day. Placido Polanco and Ivan Rodriguez are both getting the day off for rest (though Polanco’s hip seems to be sore again), so here’s the lineup the Tigers will throw at Fausto Carmona:

  1. Thomas, LF
  2. Santiago, 2B
  3. Sheffield, DH
  4. Ordonez, RF
  5. Cabrera, 3B
  6. Guillen, 1B
  7. Renteria, SS
  8. Jones, LF
  9. Inge, C

For the Indians:

  1. Grady Sizemore, CF
  2. Jamey Carroll, 2B
  3. Travis Hafner, DH
  4. Victor Martinez, C
  5. Jhonny Peralta, SS
  6. Ryan Garko, 1B
  7. Franklin Gutierrez, RF
  8. Jason Michaels, LF
  9. Casey Blake, 3B

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Jason, Is Polanco okay and just getting a rest or is his back bad??? Also I assume Pudge is okay, is this just a day off?? I think that is a little strange that he is Inge is going to catch Verlander, I thought that was something that they didn’t want.
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Is Jacque Jones really slow in Left or is Clete Thomas just that fast and can run to center if a ball gets hit there? Either way, it seems rather odd to put two guys in Left.

tonster, common sense, i suppose would prevail. i would suspect clete in CF and JJones in left…… i dont think JL is gonna have JJ and CT sitting in left field while center isnt accounted for….
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like i tell me 10 year old son on an almost daily basis ‘common sense common sense…. (*shrug*)…..
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some peoples kids…..

Error me on the lineup. It has been fixed. Clete Thomas is in center, with Jacque Jones in left.

It may seem a little strange but what worries me about today’s game is that Verlander is due for a bad outing. Yes I did say that. He really has not had a bad start yet in that every game he has been the victom of bad luck and poor run support. He has a lot of trouble with Cleveland too.
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He looks a little out of control today and he won’t get away with that against the Tribe.

I hope the “look” of this game changes pretty soon.
Verlander has gotta get Peralta who seems to hurt us.

Nice at-bat for MC in the 1st. They didn’t get a run, but they made him pitch 30 balls in the first inning. This is the kind of patience that will pay off.

Now if Verlander could just find home plate….

Whe–we dodged a bullet there!!!
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Point about Pudge. I know the guy lifted the team on his shoulders the other day with his nice day at the plate and his emotional expression….But….he is not hittign with any kind of consistency. Yesterday after he made the first out he came up 5 times and left 10 (that’s t-e-n) runners on base. He needs to come thru better than that.
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Hopefully Granderson comes back and stabilizes the top of the lineup. It is a vulnerable area right now with Polanco and Sheffield not hitting.
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Observation and question..Does Jacque Jones always have the hitch in his swing?

verlander needs to CALM DOWN.

He’s about to be calming down with a nice shower.

Well so far this game is looking like it isn’t in the cards. Inge just misses and the Tribe paints the foul lines.
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Justin has to throw a chair to Blake with an 0-2 count.
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BTW.What on earth was Thoams doing throwing home?

Verlander seems to have lost his touch with strikeouts. He needs that element in his game to be dominant

If he walks Martinez or gets hit you gotta pull him!

It’s frustrating to see a guy with his talent, his arm, and his personality looks so darn ordinary. I go back to the the strikeout. When he is striking people out he is at his best. He does not look good at all tonight. He does tend to get rattled and I don’t think it is likely that he is going to get 6 in tonight.

I am going to try to restrain myself here from taking up too much bandwidth. But before I do–I was really unhappy with ordonez once again. Carmona does not need us to help him out. To see such a pure hitter hack away at the first pitch like that when the team is behind AND you need to elevate the pitchers pitch count?? Just doesn’t make sense.
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And Sheffield. I don’t know what you guys are seeing in him but I don’t see it.

I see a professional hitter who is struggling to get back in form. I’m guessing he will within a month or so, but who knows? He seems to have lost strength and is feeling pain, so I suppose it’s possible he has a bad year or a bad first half. He’s no spring chicken, after all.

I’m rooting for him, though.

I’m rootin’ for him too. But, I am afraid his reputation cuts him too much slack. He hurt the team last year when he played injured and I see the same thing happening this year. They keep him in because he is Sheffield. But unless he starts driving in some runs he is going to impact the middle of the lineup negatively. There is something about him that I really admire but there is also something abolut him that tells me he is overrated at this stage of his career.
What I would like to see is management make a decision on him playing or not playing based on performance and not based on reputation.

Ouch. 2 strikes on Garko and BOOM.
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Let’s get this one out of the way Justin. as much as I didn’t like the way the announcer said it he was right about Verlander hitting Michaels. You could see it in his eyes.
Kinda interesting to see he has it in him but at the end of the season I hope it more than just HBP that he leads the league in.

Maybe we can win this if Carmona will just hit another 3 or four batters.

Well that was brutal–3 on and no out and then next to nothing.
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Hopefully Verlander is taken out–can’t see JL throwing him another inning.

Miner has to go…

Looks like Miner is trying to open up a roster spot for Cruceta.

What a difference a day makes, just 24 little hours. We are back to where we were a week ago. Very little hitting, too many men left on base and really really poor pitching. This one got pretty nasty too with all of those hit batters. Some intentional some not.
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As far as Miner goes, as good as he was in 2006 and 2007 he has shown absolutely nothing at all this year. I feel bad for him, but not that bad that I want him anywhere near the mound.
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We are now in the 8th inning and interesting that Wedge hasn’t taken out any staters. Also interesting that Raburn pinch hit for Magglio with the bases loaded. Ridiculous I think. Bautista was good.

My turn…. I think that Justin is overly confident after last year and he better learn fast that it isn’t working for him. He needs to throw strikes and he need to quit hitting batters (intentional or not). Way too many walks!!!

I also think that Miner needs to go, somewhere, anywhere but near our mound!
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I hope Rogers has his good stuff tomorrow. it starts to look bad when Gallarga can do better than all our regulars.

I wouldn’t say we’re back to where we were a week ago. We’ve won 5 of 9. You gotta crawl before you can walk. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cleveland tied with Detroit in two weeks……….for first place.
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Tonight’s game looked winnable for awhile, then it turned into a blowout. The hitters came out with a good approach against Carmona but got away from it after the first inning. They’ll have to stick with that approach for an entire game or they won’t beat him at all this season. I agree that Miner is dead in the water right now, and probably needs to go down and work on his game. Inge calls for a slider to Hafner, Miner shakes him off for the fastball, and bye bye baseball. I’m not sure who you bring up to replace him at this point. Actually, I’m not worried about the bullpen while the starters continue to struggle. We’ve had what, maybe 5 good starts in 16 games? That obviously won’t get it done. Tonight again, Verlander 100 pitches in five innings. That’s ridiculous. It just seems like our guys aren’t trusting their stuff for some reason. It also appeared that JV and Inge took awhile to get on the same page.
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An observation on that play at the plate when Sheffield was thrown out standing up. It took a few replay angles before I finally got one that showed the on deck hitter, who was Renteria, up in position to coach Sheff coming down the line. Edgar had his arm up, which to me is the universal signal to stand up. I wouldn’t have slid either if I saw that. Now maybe Renteria isn’t familiar with Michaels’ arm or he was giving the National League signal to slide :-) but that’s how I saw that play.
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So, this one turned out badly, but no reason to get all down about it. There’s a long way to go. I just want to see our starters contribute a little more at this point.
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–Rich

rich- IMO they’ll bring up cruceta, and send miner down. soon. this madness needs to end, if cruceta had been around in spring training, none of us would be talking about miner, or maybe even grilli.
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tigers got blown out tonight, it happens. i’m sure other blogs will have 150 users screaming about ever pitch the tigers didn’t hit and how terrible they are.
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in reality land, baseball is about winning and losing, part of the game. someone has to lose. i figured they’d lose this game before it started, carmona has pitched very very well so far this spring.
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Anyone headed down to Toledo to see Grandy? I’m thinking about it….

I got to listen to the game via XM again, and I officially can say that I hate the Cleveland announcers…everything that Cleveland did was “Amazing!” “I cant believe that play!”. At least our announcers will tell it like it is good or bad. Not that they dont get excited during a great play, but to the Cleveland announcers, EVERY play is a great play. And they went on and on and on about the ‘intentional (both hits)’ HBP…
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Rich, they did say that Renteria just stood in the batter circle, not giving Sheff any signal on sliding. It was thier opinion that if he slid, he would of made it.
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Was seriously thinking of taking a road trip to Toronto…but family commitments, etc…
Waz

Waz, you are absolutely right about Cleveland announcers. Just imagine though, that is how all these Cleveland fans are. In fact, I got home early yesterday and was able to watch 2 hours of pre-game show. All they could talk about before the game is how bad the Indians were and all the improvements they need to make. Then the game starts and they are the best team alive. I can’t stand how they do that. Same goes for their timing on Wednesday when we were pounding the Tribe and they start talking about our depleted farm system. Anyway, all Cleveland fans are like that. They go crazy when the team is playing good and then when they aren’t, they talk about shipping this person off, bringing this person up from AA or AAA…it’s ridiculous to hear…and I have to hear it everyday living in Cleveland.

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Anyway, I actually turned off the game in the 6th inning last night…I couldn’t take it anymore and I hardly ever do that even if it is a blow-out. Rich, you are right about it being one game, but as you know about Cleveland fans from last year, once they play some good ball they act like they are a championship caliber team..

Ty on Cleveland fans:
“They go crazy when the team is playing good and then when they aren’t, they talk about shipping this person off, bringing this person up from AA or AAA”
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I’ll have to say, I heard the same things being said and written about our team us recently as five days ago. Keep Clete Thomas, get rid of Jones, get rid of Sheffield, send down Miner, get rid of Inge, cut Rodney, cut Grilli, etc. You’ll notice I included some of my own in there.
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Where Cleveland fans have dropped the ball, IMO, is much more visible than that. Here’s a team that was one game away from the WS and playing their division rival on a beautiful evening and you’ve got what, 17,000 people there? Even less the night before? Let’s look at last season. In the middle of July, I projected that the September series in Cleveland would be huge and made a snap decision to travel to those games. I went to the Cleveland site and bought tickets for all three. Mind you I didn’t use a reseller or anything, just purchased what was there. I ended up with great seats for all three games, on the infield in the lower deck. By the time the games finally rolled around and their team was in control of the race, here they all were with their t-shirts and in your face attitude. They didn’t want me there? Who’s going to buy your tickets if I don’t? That’s what turned me off on them.
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I haven’t heard their radio announcers but I will say that their TV guys aren’t bad. Not as good as Bremer and Blyleven with Minnesota, but listenable at least, which is more than I can say for the Chicago guys. If given a choice of getting the high def feed but getting the Cleveland announcers, I can do that. Can’t do it with Chicago.
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I guess this all falls under the “other things baseball” subject. :-)
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–Rich

The best line from last night came from Rod Allen. “There’s some kind of promotion tonight. I think it’s college half off beverage night.”
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–Rich

It looks to me like Carlos Guillen is still favouring his leg. Hopefully the warm weather in “T” today and tomorow will be helpful to both him and Polanco before they likely close the roof for Sunday & Monday.
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Our 5 starters (excluding Galarraga) are 1-8 with an ERA of 6.45. They have walked 42 and K’d 46 over 78 1/3 innings.
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If I were Chuck Hernandez I would be looking over my shoulder.

Jason,
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Have you ever gotten an answer about the MLB Blog website? They should know how inefficient it is. When you access a page some 300 “items” have to download. At time is is very difficult to get a post done at all.
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It seems to me it is in the best interest of MLB to rectify this.
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Looks like we get Pudge leading off tonight. I’d rather see Inge there than Pudge.
Realistically though, Renteria could also hit there.
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We really need to get some quality starts again. How many have we had this year? One? Maybe two?
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There’s been some talk about JJ losing his job when Curtis gets back. I don’t think that will happen. I think it is very likely they send Thomas back down with pat and a promise.
He’s done a good job considering his inexperience.
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I want to see Curtis play when my wife and I go to NY but I hope they aren’t rushing him. He plays tonight for the Whitecaps and I just hope he doesn’t reinjure that hand.
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BTW, sure would be nice to have a guy that can throw like the Cubs’ Marmol. He started off his career looking like a Palooka who walked as many as he struck out and almost 1 an inning as a starter.
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He now has found the plate and has improved his K/inn ratio substantially. Maybe Cruceta will make us all happy eh?
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3 out 4 in Canada would be nice.

Granderson got an infield hit his first time up.

Gotta say that I am frustrated with Sheff, too. But I don’t think JL had a choice besides playing him for another month or so to see what happens. Maybe his injury is bugging him to the point he can’t play well. Maybe he won’t hit well all year. Maybe he’s just in a slump. Maybe his pains will go away. Who knows!

He sure isn’t doing much right now, besides ending rallies.

I meant to say I don’t think JL HAS a choice. What are they going to do, sign Barry? Sheff is their DH for a while, maybe all season, awful or not. I hope he comes around, but it is painful to watch.

What do folks think aobut this? And what about Polanco? Is it injuries with these guys or just slumps?

That was pathetic. @ veterans who should know what to with a raw rookie who can’t get the ball over the plate striking out with men in scoring position.
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They should have at least 3 or 4 runs and now they are tied with 1 swing of the bat.
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They have hit nothing hard yet and wait till this kid finds the strike zone. If they’ve looked bad thus far….
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Pudge has no left 12 men on in his last 6 AB after the 1st inning as a leadoff man.
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As far as Sheffield…well need I say more?

A few days back I had mentioned the same thing Dan. I would like to see Clete stay up as long as he is contributing. It is tough however to pull the plug on a veteran like JJ. If Clete should go down I hope he is called back up before the end of the year. Things can change over time and he may lose an edge by going down after doing so well up with the big club. Those are telling stats on the starters Dan. I was wondering whether I was watching the same games as there seem to have been several folks giving better marks for SP.

It’s the same thing as yesterday. The batters start out kinda patient and by the second or third time around its 3 pitches and and out, 3 pitches and an out. Why can’t they go deeper in the count in the middle innings???

Well this is what happens when you leave the darn door open. No disrespect to Kenny but he slit his own throat by hitting Barajas on an 0-2. The dropped line drive could have gotten him out of the inning but the truth is the game should never have been this close anyways.
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It is very troubling to see this team not hit with RISP. All those walks and nothing to show for it. They have now pi$$ed away the momentum they had with those recent wins by allowing the rookie tonight to come up for air.
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They need to get Sheffield out of there. It’s called cutting your losses. They could end up waiting to the All Star game for him to contribute or they untangle the middle of the lineup by putting Carlos up there at least. If I was stubborn enough to leave him in there I would at least swap Cabrera with him. It might fire things up. Sheffield is not only not producing he is hurting the team.
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And Pudge–well let’s face it Pudge is a #9 hitter.

Well we got a win after all! Can’t say we shouldn’t have done a better job with RISP but at the end of the night a win is a win. Here’s lookin for another tomorrow!
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Go Tigers!

Kenny deserved the win. He was very surgical tonight and had that one bad inning. Guess it better to have one bad inning than 1 bad outing (pun intendted).
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Good to see the new guys lift the team again.
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I know that Sheffield got a double and Pudge got a couple of hits but I am still very concerned about the both of them.
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Bautista did a very nice job once again. And Jones got through a 9th inning without Raburn bailing him out.
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Curtis singled, tripled, flew out and lined out tonight,

Sometimes I wonder if we’re watching the same game. What I’m seeing is a team that has played .600 ball for ten games, won 4 of 5, and has come back to win 3 times in the last 5 games. I see Rogers with his strongest start of the season. I see a bullpen that is finding itself.
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That kid pitching was effectively wild and had good stuff, but we hung in and got to their bullpen. It was a good win, and an entertaining one to boot.
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It’s good to see Cabrera now. I was afraid we’d be into an A-Rod situation but as I watch Miguel, his boyish enthusiasm is infectious and I think he’ll be very popular here. I’m also impressed with Renteria, and I’d been down on the trade, if not him. Well, I love it when they shut me up like that.
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Everything’s not perfect, but nothing ever is. We need more from the starters and hopefully that began tonight. A couple of guys have been in slumps, but nothing too damaging for the team.
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I do have a “what if” for you guys. What if the bullpen becomes strong, Lopez and Bautista turn out to be the finds we’ve been looking for, and it’s going good out there. What do you do then if Rodney returns?
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–Rich

IMO – if Lopez and Bautista turn out to be the finds we’ve been looking for, at the most, Rodney loses his 8th inning position and becomes an innings eater. Why fix what isn’t broken. While I am not the biggest Rodney fan, I think Rodney is better (when healthy) than Grilli and Minor (as of late). However, Rodney’s injury “problems,” whether physical or mental, hurt this team and I wouldn’t mind seeing Rodney be traded or released. But JL loves him and I doubt we’ll be seeing Rodney leaving anytime soon. I’m sure I’m in the minority on this. Would rather see Zumaya back than Rodney.

Rich, Well put. You have been hanging in there as the patient optimist…these things don’t go unnoticed. I like Cabrerra, (what’s not to like?) and Renteria is growing on me too. It takes a while I think, at least for me, to get used to new players. When I have more time, I’d like to discuss the pluses and minuses of this past off season’s trades. For instance I still wish we had Jair Jurrjens. Also I would have been happier if the trade with the Marlins would have involved just Cabrerra, and we could have kept 2 or three of those 6 prospects. Willis seems like a nice guy and has some impressive career stats but not sure we needed him. But I’m still pulling for him to find success here. Regardless of what I wished, the deals are done so I’m going to try and focus on the positives and not whine too much:)

Having said that, I don’t see anything wrong with anyone on this blog voicing their opinion. Hey, come on, it’s just a blog. Entertainment. And I haven’t detected any non Tiger fans. Just passionate Tiger fans with opinions and concerns. Keep things in perspective. OK I’m back off the soapbox:)

Anyhow, yes it was a very entertaining game tonight Rich. SP has been struggling but Kenny pitched well. The BP is quietly finding a personality and getting comfortable. Rich, when Rodney returns, he has to earn his spot back. That’s what I think. If Lopez and Bautista are getting it done, don’t change anything, if you get my drift.

Hi Marty. I just noticed that we’d both used the same terminology of “watching the same games.” Coincidence, hey? I don’t know if I’d think of myself as an optimist or not. You know what they say, both optimists and pessimists think of themselves as realists. Well…..I don’t know if “they” actually say that, I may have just made it up. “They” say you can lead a horse to water and things like that, but there’s no horses in baseball. :-)
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Patience I do have. A 162-game season has many ups, downs, and plot twists. Each of the games has the same characteristics. You’re up, you’re down, Rocky lands a left, Creed clobbers Rocky with a right, etc.
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Regarding starting pitching, I’ve never cared for the quality starts stat. Three runs in six innings is not very good pitching in my book. I think we’ve had about five good starts, maybe more, maybe less, out of 17 games, so that’s not good. I think it’s now more about pitch count, going deep into the game, and keeping the bullpen fresh so they can finish off games efficiently. Last night was an example. Rogers doesn’t get a quality start, but he certainly pitched well enough and long enough to keep us in it, and it all worked out great. If you had an entire staff that threw quality starts all the time, you’d have a team ERA of 4.50 and a bullpen that had to work three innings (or more) every night. Having said all this, an ERA of 6.45 from your starters is horrendous. That’s the one thing that needs to change the most.
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–Rich

Interesting lineup today. J Jones is batting 2nd and Raburn batting 9th at 2B

bondermans first inning issues of last year have turned into 2nd inning issues this year. 3 walks in a row? bases loaded no outs, i mean WHAT THE HELL……
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grilli warming up.. yay….
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*sigh*
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mike

A day of contradictions so far. We’ve been equally lucky and unlucky. Lucky we’re not down by 4 runs and unlucky that it isn’t a tie game with Raburns HR pinging back into play.
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Bonderman has been very lucky. He should be counting his “lucky” stars for sure. He has no command whatsoever and has gotten out of some reall messes with DPs.
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What I don’t like seeing And somebody should talk to him about this) is his defeatist demeanor and body language on the mound. He should study Verlander a little more. The other team feeds off his body language because they know he is not likely to be throwing strikes when he looks like he has no confidence with the slow languid walk around the mound the sighs and the shrugs. C’mon get it on Jeremy. Clench those teeth.
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Sheefield–get hitting Steve and I are watching you.

We need Granderson back so bad… I think he could have made that catch Thomas missed.

C-L-A-N-K!!
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That will probably bring out the Inge for 3B supporters again.
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Could have been a lot worse..lucky again. Need to take advatntage right away..
Bonderman should not come out for the 6th–no way.

Alot lot of if onlys in this game today……..like if only Bonderman hadn’t walked in that run…….if only Cabrera hadn’t made that error……if only Raburn hadn’t made that error……if only we could hit when we have runners in scoring position………lots could have and should have been different…..
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**Marci**

What I didn’t like about today:
Waking up and seeing a blanket of snow outside
Bonderman’s lack of confidence
Lack of base running
Raburn letting his mistake bother him at the plate
Not sending Santiago with Pudge up
Not being able to get runners in from 3rd with no out
Not being able to take advantage of a lot breaks
Cabrera watching too many fastballs for the first strike
Gary Sheffield batting 3rd
Gary Sheffield at DH
Gary Sheffield thinking he has an unlimited number of ABs in his career
Gary Sheffield not telling his manager he is physically impaired
JL thinking Gary Sheffield is going to become a middle of the lineup hitter again anytime soon
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What I liked about today:
Waking up
Carlos Gullien
The Wings won in overtime yesterday (I still like it today)

It was a frustrating game for both teams actually. Less so for Toronto, of course.
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Bonderman had no slider at all so he shouldn’t have lasted nearly as long as he did. He battled, but that’s about it. There is yet to be a starter you can count on this year. The bullpen, on the other hand, looked good again. Grilli caught a break on that squeeze play, but he did put the ball in a place where even Eckstein couldn’t handle it.
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Down day for hitters and when they did hit one hard, it bounced from the top of the wall BACK into the field (how’d that happen?) or McGowan gloved it. Sheffield is in a man-sized slump, I mean he’s supersizing this baby. Poor pitch selection. If that’s being caused by his shoulder, and it does look a lot like late last year, he needs to get out of there. If it’s not the shoulder, perhaps a game or two in the outfield would jumpstart him. Or he should just go back to drawing walks.
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Stat of the day: the Tigers are 0-9 in day games and 6-3 at night. I normally pay no attention to stats like this, but it does jump out at you. Something worth monitoring, especially with two more day games in Toronto. Wake up, guys, we’ve got a game this afternoon.
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–Rich

That is interesting. Especially considering they theories about them not liking the colder temperatures.
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BTW Jeff Larish is hitting a shade under .300 with 5 Homers in Toledo and Blaine Neal just got his 5th save the other day by K’ing 3 in the 9th inning. He has a ZERO ERA in 7 innings with 2 walks and 12 Ks.
Uhhhh is anybody watching whats going on down there?
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If it were up to me I would be DH-ing Carlos in the hopes of it helping his hammy a bit. He is hitting well but he is really hobbled.
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Sheffield has 3 BB s and 8 K s in has last 7 games.

Yeah, DH Carlos and put Cabrera at first and Inge at third. Put Sheffield in the outfield or sit him.
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Clete Thomas has done everything asked of him, but we need Granderson back badly, then Clete can head on down to work on his game. Everytime the lineup turns over, it feels like it’s hitting the weak spots. I’m sure Jones hit second today because of his .349 and 12 homers against Toronto, but it didn’t amount to much on this day.
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The bullpen is becoming a bright spot, all in all, but to get on any kind of roll we’re going to need a string of strong starts and early inning runs.
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–Rich

Toledo:
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Granderson is 2 for 3 so far with a fly out, a double and a single.

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