Sunday: Tigers at White Sox

Gary Sheffield is dealing with some shoulder soreness (actually, more than a little shoulder soreness, because he tore some scar tissue yesterday), but he said he’s fine to play. Placido Polanco gets a day off to rest some soreness in his sore right hip flexor. Carlos Guillen is out as expected to deal with the hamstring; no idea yet whether he could be back Monday. And, of course, Pudge finally gets a day off this season.

Yes, the Tigers are banged up right now.

“We’ve got a lot of issues,” manager Jim Leyland said. “We have to fight through it. We just haven’t been able to get in sync.”

Here’s the lineup:

  1. Thomas, CF
  2. Renteria, SS
  3. Sheffield, DH
  4. Ordonez, RF
  5. Cabrera, 3B
  6. Jones, LF
  7. Thames, 1B
  8. Inge, C
  9. Santiago, 2B

And for the White Sox:

  1. Nick Swisher, CF
  2. Orlando Cabrera, SS
  3. Jim Thome, DH
  4. Paul Konerko, 1B
  5. Jermaine Dye, RF
  6. A.J. Pierzynski, C
  7. Carlos Quentin, LF
  8. Joe Crede, 3B
  9. Juan Uribe, 2B

47 Comments

DID I SAY IT OR WHAT. WHEN IT RAINS IT POURS. Just when I thought all of our injury woes of last year had to be over. It still just keeps on coming. If I didn’t know better I would think that the baseball gods had it in for the Tigers. This just keeps getting worse and worse.

GO TIGERS, GO ROGERS, GO HITTERS.

Doesn’t Leyland at some point have to demonstrate some executive power wrt Sheffield? He’s already struggling with the finger, and then what’s that? Torn scar tissue? But you think you can play anyway? Great! 3 hole it is.
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I know our bench is short, but how ’bout we get Raburn into a game. Bring Sheffield in if you absolutely need a warm body.
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-Brian

Sheffield always manages to come up with an exit strategy. Either he is physically imperfect, it’s someone elses fault, or some other far fetched excuse.
The fact is he is not hitting and hasn’t been all the way back to last year. Don’t expect anything from him except the occasional walk and stolen base now.
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Becoming all too typical this year–Sheff an easy out and Maggs 1str pitch swinging.

Just tuned in. Another inspiring 1-2-3 Tiger inning. 2 K’s, one pop up. When will it end?

I’m outta here. Not going to even waste my time watching them today.
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They are offically a BAD baseball team right now. The worst in MLB.
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All these injuries suggest they were not in good shape coming out of spring training either. Whose fault is that?
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They should sit Cabrera–he needs length strength in order to hit and he is just a walking compromise up to the plate right now. Same with Sheffield.
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JL will come out with some frustrated comments to the media, and he can tell us he likes all these guys, and he can say it’s OK we hit into double plays becasue were not a speed team, and he can say we have to play out of it. But he will eventually unload on these guys for not playing well.
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What’s going on? Kenny is doing okay, Chuck H goes out to visit him, and he’s wild, then loads the bases and Gr Slam!
ARRGH! Tigers get one on base, and nobody can advance him!??… Are they just practicing still?
c’mon guys! Spring training is when your supposed to work out and get ready!

Me too Dan. Poor fielding, weak hitting, fussy ump….. Something’s got to give here. Where have you gone, 06 Tigers?

Unbelievable pop up umpire doesn’t move out of the way. Infield single. Umpires 0-2. Yesterday the freaking game shouldn’t of been played. So today Cabera slips when the umpire gets in the way on a field that wouldn’t be that wet had they not played the game yesterday. Granted the Tigers haven’t played their best ball. For for Gods sake, can we catch a freaking break. Sorry, I am really angry right now.

The “Tiger” nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you.

These Tigers are giving me a headache. They stink, they are playing like they are defeated before they even get on the field. They are embarressing themselves and their owner who pays a lot of money for them. I am done for today. They are pitiful and not worth anymore of my Sunday afternoon. Shame.

I quit watching the game a few innings ago, but the box score right now says it all. 5 hits and 0 runs for the Tigers, 10 hits and 11 runs for the Sox. With 5 more hits than us, they are leading by 11 runs…….

I just don’t see the Light yet……..

I wonder if they have given some thought to putting Cab an/or Sheff on the DL. It might help Cab because he needs to get that groing or quad watever it is, strong in order to drive the ball.
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I don’t anything is gonna help Sheffield. It’s one thing hurting but it is a whole other thing that management is playing him in HOPES that he will straighten out. He is hurting the team.
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Is the training staff to blame with some of these injuries?
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Thomas was given a rude awakening today and it looked like he had given up on that last AB. The funk form the veterans must be rubbing off.
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What’s next? Larish, Hessman. Timo?
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I saw Raburn PH for Ordonez. Was JL being kind or was Ordonez injured too?

well the bright side, is me not watching the games on mlbtv ISNT jinxing the tigers, as i sat at home today, purposely not watching, and watched ‘any given sunday’ for the millionth time, and they still lost. badly. so. yeah, no jinx from me. lol
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mike

I may be the only one who watched the entire game. I had the time blocked out to watch anyway, so what the heck.
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Amazing sights today, a veritable Barnum & Bailey show. A thirdbase coach gets in the way of a foul pop. An umpire does the same, and in the same game. A piece of a shattered bat hits the ball a SECOND time as the pitcher is going to field it. Pitchers throw 24 consecutive strikes and nobody gets a hit.
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Things you don’t see everyday, and some things you’ve NEVER seen.
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Best comment? Jim Leyland to the question “What did you say to your team?” His answer: “None of your business! If I’d wanted you to hear what I said to them, I’d have invited you in there!”
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To answer a question from above, Raburn replaced Ordonez because he was the only player (not counting Pudge) on the bench. You can’t make multiple substitutions when you’ve only got one guy available.
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–Rich

I tell you I can not tell you the last time I have so looked forward to a season of baseball. And I cannot tell you the last time I have dreaded every game before it has even been played. I am completely disgusted with most of this team. What the heck bring up AAA, they cannot do any worse than these guys. I have to admit I finished watching the game, I guess it is like a car wreck, you can’t stop watching it.
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Rich I to heard the Leyland comment, and it frankly is the first time I heard him sounding actually angry for the first time since this completely horrific team started playing this year. This could be one of the “on paper” best teams to look like a complete bunch of idiots out there. And you are also right Rich about the freak show that was out there today. The third base coach and the umpire completely getting in the way. I wil go even farther than that though. It was a complete freak show weekend. Starting with Willis slipping on a wet mound in the first inning and landing himself on the DL. Then Guillen hurting himself running to first, probably playing in weather that they shouldn’t have been. Then moving on to Saturday, playing a game in weather that no one should of been playing in and by some miracle Justin is actually pitching well, (batters still not hitting) Only to get to the 8th were it completely blew up because of a down pouring rain had a ball slip out of his hands and hit a batter on the head. And in that game seeing a field that was so wet had they gotten anything on the ground it probably would of been covered in mud or stopped on the infield in a puddle. We are lucky that no one was injured in that game. Then to today where in the infield was so wet that Cabrera slipped on the field and ran and the umpire is too stupid to get out of the freaking way. Wouldn’t be suprised to hear that tomorrow that he is more hurt than we think right now. And like I said before they shouldn’t of played the game yesterday and if they hadn’t the field would of been covered and he wouldn’t have slipped, Thome wouldn’t have been on and no second grand slam probably.
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It has been one thing after another. With that being said they are not playing like a team that gives a crap or believes that they can win a game. And unfortunately it is quite a while before they have an off day, thanks to MLB scheduling something like 22 games in a row.

Has anyone checked out where Tigers stand in the stat lines????
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Offensive numbers
Runs scored 29th worst
Hits 27th worst
2b 25th worst
3b- 27 tied for last
HR’S – 24TH worst
RBI’S – 30TH worst
TB’S- 29TH worst
BB’S – 8TH best
SO’s – 16th worst
SB’s- 8th
CS – 3rd best
OBP – 22nd worst
SLG- 30th worst
AVG – 28th worst
GIDP – 30th worst
XBH’s- 29th worst

What a powerhouse team eh.

Pitching Stats:
Wins -30th
Losses – 30th
Hits allowed – 7th worst
Runs allowed – 30th
ER’s – 29th
HR’ allowed – 6th best
BB – 30th
SO’s – 17th worst
ERA – no suprise worst in MLB 30th

Not a real shock they are not winning games huh???

Bottom line is this team was overrated by the media and fans imo. I don’t think guys like Ordonez and Guillen will necesarilly repeat their production from a year ago. Cabrera was obviously a great addition. But, look what they gave up to get him. A guy in Andrew Miller who’s full of potential and imo will be much better than Willis over the next 5 or so years. Cameron Maybin I think will turn out to be very good. They basically depleted their farm (aside from Porcello) for one guy because Willis was sure to struggle in the AL no matter which way you slice it. Their pitching is thin. After Verlander there are a bunch of question marks. Will Bonderman bounce back from his poor 07 season and produce more to the level of his 06 season? Will Willis improve from his 07 season despite switching to a tougher league? Can Robertson produce more to the tune of 06? Can Rogers still get it done? Pretty shaky if you ask me. Their bullpen is terrible, period. They need Rodney and Zumaya to get healthy in the worst way. This team was flawed in a big way. They were counting on guys who had career years last year to repeat their production and the exact opposite has happened to this point. This team simply put is just not as good as the media and fans made them out to be and it wasn’t that hard to see that if you really stopped and took a look.

I want my third baseman back.

I want my third baseman back.

bessysgr8, I think I tried making that point about two and a half weeks ago. The general consensus reaction was “Shove it, you don’t know what you’re talking about.” Glad to see I’m not alone anymore on that front.

Maybe we could call up Jair Jur– wait, no, that won’t work.

What about Cameron Mayb–no, that won’t work either.

Do you think maybe Andrew Mi–damn! Guess that isn’t going to work!

But that’s ok, because we’re just going to outscore everyone with the best offense in baseball history, right?

Miggy says he feels bad, embarrassed, and that someone behind him is laughing at him. The only one laughing is Inge, the clubhouse cancer, who I pray every day will get traded.

Bessysgr8 and Knight, just to let you know, I’m in agreement with you guys. I think I supported your thoughts a while back Knight. Bessysgr, good thoughts. Too much given up imo. But people generally seemed irritated over the winter by such suggestions. I’m not saying it won’t eventually turn out good. I hope it does and we are wrong. Winning is obviously the object of the game but each of us has “our ideas” on the right personnel, the right formula, or game plan to win. I like developing the prospects and patiently building. (140 mil, I’m sorry , is ugly) This way a team grows and learns together. Yeah they will take their lumps for a while but they become a cohesive unit. They learn what to expect from each other. And yes chemistry does matter….. sorry JL. Nobody wins every year, nor can all the money in the world assure that.

Obviously DD has his own ideas about building a team. I don’t say I disagree with everything he has done, but I will say he has made some wholesale changes and paid too high a price imo. What he in essence did, if I can make an analogy, was that he made the front fortress door impregnable, while leaving the rear door wide open. Pitching should have been focused on first. Why did they give up on Jurrjens and Miller? I agree Bess, Miller may have more of an up side than Willis. Jurrjens, well we all saw what he was capable of last year. Speaking of which, I would have liked to have seen Santiago get just one season’s chance to see what he could do. His fielding is superb and justifies that opportunity. We could use these two arms about now.

This team suffers from lack of chemistry, no identity, it’s full of key injuries, aging, and flat as a pancake. No player has yet stepped up to take charge. And where is any help coming from? Because who you see is who you got. The die is cast, and for some years to come even. These guys either get it together or we is in for a long long season.

I hope the Tigers prove me wrong. I hope they come back and make us all ashamed for doubting and whining. Maybe this is all a “right of passage”, a baptism by fire”, a good old fashioned a** kicking, that they all needed for the “trip”. All I know is we’re still limpin’ in the gate and lookin’ at the hind parts of 29 other horses. It was ugly today, and I missed the worst of it…….rebuttals?

a buddy of mine thinks the Tigers have no heart left. They got rid of the Mayor, and Inge I’m sure feels lousy–except that he’s hitting better and has a TON of heart, which is why he’s my favorite Tiger.

Anywho, my buddy tells me that b/c the team has so many Latinos who are not used to the cold weather and who don’t speak much English, that the problem is twofold:

1) language barrier in the lockeroom means a lack of morale boosting among the players
2) Seasoned players making big bucks don’t have to try to proved themselves anymore.
3) the cold weather unsuitable for players from temparate climates.

Hard to argue with that logic, and I hadn’t thought of it.

Maybe things will be better when it warms up. Until then, I hope Inge keeps his average above 300.

Sincerely,
christomarko

Marty – Yes, you did back me up on that. I’ve got to believe chemistry is at least involved in some small way. And as you’ve said, I’d love to be wrong. I’d serve myself a hot pooburger for supper whilst watching them in the World Series. But I’m not seeing any fight in these guys; no imperative mission to win games.
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Christo, they’re all speaking one language — it’s just not English :).
Additionally, take this for what it’s worth: notice that, whenever a team goes on a huge skid, the injuries start racking up. Stars are on the shelf for the rest of the season; the trainer is busy with half a dozen other guys. Seems to be an avalanche of injuries on teams that aren’t winning, historically speaking. And now we have Cabrera’s quad, Polanco’s back, Shef’s shoulder, Guillen’s hammy, et al. Again, take that as you will.

JL had better get a major freak-out in motion.. this is disgusting.

To some of the new BloggaTigers, especially “thebudster”.
I respectfully disagree with your description of Inge as a cancer to this clubhouse. I find myself constantly defending him, and I do so because I know him locally. You are so wrong on this analysis. If you think, he’s snickering at Cabrera, I’m afraid you are not a very good judge of character. Find me the proof of your claim, and I will gladly concede the point. Inge did not create the “mess” that we currently call the Tigers. If any one event cause this ugly debacle, it was the injry to Granderson. His absence affects the performance of the lineup from 2-9. Inge did not ask for Willis, or Grandy, or Guillen or Zamaya, or Rodney, or even Cabrera to get hurt. Again, I must say that our situation is what it is. It will improve, but as I have previously stated, in the end, the hitting(or lack therof) will
not be the downfall of this team. We went after the wrong thing. Better to have signed Dan Harrin, than be hoping that Dontrell’s control problems have disappeared. He’s a nice guy, but we got burned on that trade. I don’t care how good Cabrera is or becomes. Our team is now a veteran team with players who get more nagging injuries in their thirties. Gorkys Hernandez and Jurggens will have many years to play after Edgar has retired. One final comment. More people would have been rooting for Bannister to get the no hitter Saturday, if he didn’t play for a team with the most unprofessional, obnoxious announcer in the world. Harrelson has destroyed the profession. I’m hoping someone who lives in Detroit will make a “he gone” sign to hold up everytime a Sox player comes to bat at Comerica later on in the season. Finally, we can truly evaluate the Tiger season, when we have 20 games with Grandy in the lineup. That will tell us if this team is as good on the field as it is on paper. Or as bad, as it has played on the field for 12 games. Regardless of the outcome, when I am buried, I will be buried as a Tiger Fanatic. Thanks, John Hiller for some great memories.

I’ve been a Tiger fan ….well, let’s just say I had a mad crush on Al Kaline in the sixties. I’ve watched Inge for years and have never liked his attitude. Never, ever have I liked his attitude based on the things he says and the way he behaves on the field. I do agree that he is a gifted athlete who is extremely sturdy. He very seldom is injured and I think that is his greatest strength. I watch every game, every day. I’ve seen him make terrific catches but his attitude when Pudge came on board and his childish ways after Cabrera was signed tells me all I need to know about him. Respectfully, a Tiger fan for 50 years.

Anybody who believed the national media when they guaranteed the Tigers would make the World Series are fools. Anybody who thinks this team will continue to play this way doesn’t know much about the game of baseball. I realize that’s blunt, but that’s just the fact. And I can guarantee that.
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I had concerns regarding the pitching staff going into this season, and on several occasions attempted to demonstrate how a team could put up big offensive numbers but still not win games.
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Knight, telling you to “shove it” was not the general consensus here at all. As I recall, you had one or two people who disagreed, for lack of a better word, with you. I thought and still think your observations are worthwhile.
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Chistomarko, I don’t agree with “your buddy” on points one and two. I have no other comment on that and I hope that’s the end of it.
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Look folks, baseball is the best reality show there is. This is all part of the ongoing story and is what makes it interesting. There’s losing and winning. Would 2006 have been near as much fun if we’d been winning every year? Right now, we’ve got a club with a massive injury problem. Granderson got plunked by a minor league pitcher in spring training and many of these other injury issues stem from playing games in weather not suited to baseball. Cabrera came over and got the big contract just before the season opened and now he’s pressing. Really pressing. Ordonez has temporarily lost his ability to hit to the opposite field, which has made him tentative. Most importantly of all, however, is the fact that this is practically a brand new team out there. This might take awhile to get going. It may not get going till next year for all we know. I can still enjoy watching the Tigers play, always have.
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Guess I started preaching there. :-) Well, may as well finish the sermon. I sincerely hope that tomorrow night, when the first little thing goes wrong, that we don’t again start booing our own team. That doesn’t help, believe me. In fact, it just contributes to failure. I’ve known of some ballplayers who thrived on being booed on the road. I’ve never heard of one who performed better from being booed at home.
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–Rich

Well, at least JL finally let them have it. It was about time. I think things will settle down and they will be able to play .500 ball in May. They still have a chance of getting hot in the summer and being exciting. With all the offensive woes, it’s not really worrying me. They’ve got depth, and can deal with the injuries. It’s the starters and the releivers who are doing awful. And we haven’t led enough games to see Jones much. He was great the other day, but he is a question mark, too. I love the guy, but at some point he’s going to lose it and save 6 out of 10 chances instead of 8 or 9.

The hitting will be there. The pitching…whoh knows?

And can we just leave Inge alone. Why the heck would anyone call him a cancer? I’m happy he’s hitting better. He seems to hit better when his situation is unstable. It may remain that way all year.

David, thanks for reminding me. I’ve made my feelings about Harrelson and Jackson known for years now. After this weekend of games being played when they shouldn’t have been, and the memory of that “rainout” last year when Thome and Dye were injured…..well……I’m thinking the entire Chicago organization is a pretty classless outfit. I must say, however, that I can’t see why the umpires didn’t stop Saturday’s game after they took control. That was just criminal, playing that game out. And I’ll include Friday night’s game too.
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–Rich

messy, knight, whoever.
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hey guess what kiddos, there’s ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY GAMES LEFT TO PLAY.
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lets get away from the iceland and into spring. lets not forget the effets of weather. cabrera, i’m sorry, i forget, what team did he play for? and i seriously doubt that willis was “THE” dealmaker. lets also, while we’re slamming the front office, not forget, who else is on the DL, granderson (the tigers CF, probably his whole career), sheff( while not on the DL, is trade bait), guillen (hammy strain, BFD, not like this chicago series so early matters much), zoom, rodney, blah blah blah all on track. the time for b@tching and moaning isn’t now, its 12 games into the season, you tools. lets let them play some baseball.
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BTW- drives me crazy when a couple idiots all the sudden start talking when they think, after 12 games, their preseason slams against the front office are prematurely vindicated……. some people have no class, and mr knight of jeeeeeeezus, you are one of em. how bout praying to mr hey-suzzzzz for some hitting instead of condemning the front office for making trades.
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imagine you were in the FO…… and this cabrera/willis trade came your way, mostly for unproven prospects, and two big name guys who have, really, yet to perform…… what would you do, mr crusador?
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UGH people are ignorant sometimes

Okay, check this out. All of those national media “experts” were drooling over this lineup:
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Granderson
Polanco
Sheffield
Ordonez
Cabrera
Guillen
Renteria
Rodriguez
Jones/Thames
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This was the lineup that would score a million runs, would eat pitchers alive, then go after their families and eat them alive, right? Okay well, I did some research on baseball-reference.com and discovered that most teams use the same lineup about 25 times throughout a season, maybe 40 if you count the Jones/Thames type of platoon. So that leaves anywhere from 122-137 games where the opposing pitchers, and their families, are safe from being devoured.
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What does it all mean? Heck, I don’t know, what do you think it means?
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–Rich

If some of you here think that Brandon Inge is the problem, I think that you are crazy?? You think that he is a cancer your crazy. All he has done this year is play all over the field and by the way he is one of the leaders in the clubhouse in regards to offense and defense. You all really need to get off the dudes back. He has done absolultely nothing to deserve negative attention or treatment he is getting from you. And I would hazard a guess that most fans disagree with you as well since all the games that I have been to he is getting the loudest cheers.
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And I seriously doubt they are not hitting because a lot of them speak spanish? They may not be hitting well because it is horrible weather and indicative of the horrible weather there are nagging injuries. Lets think, who is injured Granderson, Sheffield, Guillen, Cabrera, Polanco, Wilson, Rodney, and Zumaya and Willis. That is a pretty lengthy and impressive list of injuries. That is four of your best hitters and your two best relievers and a pitcher that has an upside but we are still not sure about. That being said, I still think that there are a few games out there we should of won, no doubt.
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Also, I think that it was Rich who said that Chicago officials are skanks. Last year they cancelled that game early and it was sunny that night. This year they don’t cancel games that should of been cancelled and because of that we came up with a few more.

cleveland 5-5 2.5 games out of first
detroit 2-10 5.5 games out of first
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horrible start for detroit, sure, only 5.5 games behind the chicago and the beasts of kansas city…
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new york, 6-7 last place, mets 5-6 3rd place, rockies 5-7 4th in division… boston actually has a winning record so far, 7-6 and is in a close AL east .5 games behind.
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what does this all mean? lots of teams aren’t playing all that well. detroit and cleveland, one of which is the presumed AL central winner, are in the cellar.
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or how about…. THERE’S 150 GAMES LEFT TO PLAY.
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this is baseball, not football when a 2-10 performace would be insanity. (lions) they play slightly more than 16 games a year in baseball.
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when was the last time you spent 3-4 hours in 38 degree heat?
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mike…

I am with GK all the way.Those cringers have been docile of late Go Brandon. By the way what is a skank

What we say here doesn’t matter at all as far as what this team does on the field. But what does matter is suggesting that any of these problems have something to do with ethnicity or language.
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This team (and most others) have always had a large contingent of Latin ballplayers. And they all do speak a common language–baseball.
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The team may be losing because of chemistry, poor play, bad luck, cold weather, injuries–you can pick your excuse. But the one reason they are not winning has nothing to do with WHERE they learned the game of baseball.

Well GK, just for the record, I said that the Chicago organization was classless. “Skank” is your word. :-) Bridge, you’ll have to look up the definition as I’m not going there. :-)
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–Rich

lol
from google:
skank:
filth: any substance considered disgustingly foul or unpleasant
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a rhythmic dance to reggae music performed by bending forward and extending the hands while bending the knees
dance the skank
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Skank is slang and a pejorative term used in the Western World to describe a person, usually female, who is either sexually promiscuous in a tasteless manner or behaves in a way which others perceive to be such.
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Dampening, also damping, refers to the musical technique of muting an instrument while playing it, or soon after, before it has lost its sustain (stopped ringing). It can be used on a wide variety of string and percussion instruments. This may be done with a mute.
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Skank is a Brazilian pop/rock/reggae band. The band was born in 1991, in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais
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pick a definition and run with it.
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mike

Mike–you forgot another definition:
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skank n. Overtly biased sports announcer who uses derision, in equal measure, to criticize the opposition and officiating.

yeah i just hate the ‘good guys up 4-0′ i hate that good guy crap. it’s beyond annoying.
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google didn’t have that definition listed :)

Sorry was out of touch for a little while, didn’t know there would be so much speculation of the word “skank” that I used to describe the CWS. I was really going for the filth, or scummy use, however if I think that you could go with a tasteless women as well. All I really wanted to say that I don’t think what they did was right. Not for either team. And I would bet a lot that if one of their players would of been hurt, they would be singing a different tune. Yes both teams have to play in the same weather, but you really are taken chances with the health of players. They just got a little lucky that Cabrera wasn’t hurt by the 92 mph fastball that hit him in the head because it slipped out of Justins cold wet hand. Not to mention they pulled the same thing last year when it was raining early in the day, they cancelled the game and several hours before the game was started the sun came out and it was a beautiful night for ball. But they did that because they had two of their key players hurt. They did it this weekend because they are to afraid to take their chances later in the year.

JASON what I would like to know is how much control does the MLB vs. the home team have over that kind of situation especially Saturday???? I would really like to know.

I could pass off this 2-10 start as a bad stretch combined with injuries. What I can’t pass off is this chronic helplessness against the White Sux. I’m sick and tired of losing to those laughing hyenas with their obnoxious announcers and their no-class management. How is it that this team becomes so opportunistic when playing us? They don’t do that to anyone else. If we get a bad call on what would have been an inning ending strikeout, if one of their guys just barely beats out what would have been an inning ending doubleplay, you can almost bet money that the next Chicago hitter will belt a 3-run homer. When that umpire messed up Cabrera on the pop up yesterday, you just knew that the floodgates would now open. Worse, I think the Tigers players know it too. If this doesn’t stop, we’re never going to win anything.
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Speaking of that umpire play at third, I suspect Brandon Inge would have shoved the guy down on his rump, then made the catch. Can’t you just visualize him doing that?
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–Rich

Mike, I have to agree with you here. There is lots of baseball left to play this year and if you look at the other teams and their records, our start isn’t all that far behind.

To some others on here: I really don’t like some of the comments. As far as I am concerned Brandon Inge is a very big part of this team and maybe you need to take a good long look at what we would have if he was gone. It is not too often that you can find such a versatile player. Opinions are nice but ignorance will get you nowhere.

I sure hope I am watching when Inge knocks the ump on his rump……………………………………….

Oh yeah! I forgot! Go Tigers!.

**Marci**

Quick thoughts:
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1) nice to see so many new folks on the blog. Some simple ground rules should be established. I don’t have time to write out a detailed list but I’d say the following should be
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a) We’re Tigers fans and we don’t make personal attacks against each other.
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b) When we criticize, we offer specific reasons not just “I can’t stand that guy” with no justification.
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c) We focus on constructive criticism such as “I didn’t like it when Leyland made XXX decision. This is what I would have done differently.”
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d) We take the opportunity to critique today’s game while also respecting the history of the game as well as our Tiger greats. (Some have more knowledge than others on this topic.)
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e) We really hate it when our supposedly stacked team starts 2-10. :)
Any others to add?
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2) I don’t think Inge is not the problem right now– he’s one of the only guys hitting right now. Once we get everyone back and healthy, we can look at his game more closely. Right now, we need every healthy body we can get.
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3) When you’re in a spell like this, its amazing how many things can go wrong. However, as Leyland says frequently, momentum is only as good as your starting pitcher the next day. It would be great if one of our starters could pull out a gem and help to right the ship. (NOTE: I don’t think the pitchers are to blame– just that they can be the first to make an immediate impact.)
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That’s all right now. Let’s hope we have something good to write about later tonight. We’re counting on you Bondo.

I like your list, Brent, it should be required reading. You also just listed the reasons I’ve stayed with this blog for three years. Mutual respect along with good points made in complete sentences is very welcome.
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I also invite everyone to observe an interesting phenomena seen throughout the online sports discussion world: the number of posts increases in direct correlation to how poorly the team in question is playing. :-)
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–Rich

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