Keep this in mind about Silva

Taken by itself, Monday’s 2-0 loss is a blown opportunity to keep their postseason hopes going, or at least not allow the Yankees to back in. However, losing a game like this to Carlos Silva is part of a pattern that goes back for most of the season.

Statistically, Silva isn’t much this year (12-14, 4.40 entering tonight), but he’s the kind of pitcher who has given the Tigers trouble all year — the sinkerball-throwing type that throws strikes, forces contact and induces ground balls. Fausto Carmona is a harder-throwing version. Roy Halladay is similar, but he’s in a class by himself. When these guys are on, they’re tough against any team, but they prove particularly challenging for the Tigers because they force Detroit hitters to try to manufacture offense on the ground. They had their chances at doing that tonight, but they never got that big hit.

Carlos Guillen was the only Tiger who could get the ball in the air off of Silva tonight, which probably explains why Guillen has hit him so well over the course of his career. Even so, all it got Guillen was three fly outs. His only hit came off Joe Nathan in the ninth.

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Guys, I stupidly posted under the last topic “Maggio’s back in the lineup” instead of doing it here. I hope you will read my post anyway and share your comments. Sorry about posting the same thing twice, senility is setting in at the end of a long season.

No problem. I usually go back looking for posts on any recent subject.

I asked the same question at the end of last season (which was a month later) about the blog continuing. It did. Not as often or lively, of course, but it’s still there. Jason reported the Sheffield trade and we had a good time with that, then he reported live from the winter meetings in Florida, which really made those meetings more fun than they usually would be.

Whether we like Jones or not (I do), if he leaves he has to be replaced. If you put Zumaya in the closer role, you’ve just lost your best setup man. It’s my opinion that the setup man should be your best pitcher, not the closer. For Cleveland, it was Betancourt, not Borowski. For us last year, it was Zumaya. If we acquire another closer or setup man, I don’t know who it would be. I’d rather use the same combo for one more season, but that’s up to Jones and DD. And Mr. Ilitch.

Rich, That’s an interesting point you make that the set up man should be your best reliever. (I assume you meant reliever and not necessarily pitcher). I kind of agree with you and for this reason. The set up guy can often be summoned mid inning to stop a scoring threat. It requires someone who often can get a strikeout. On the other hand, the closer usually has the luxury of beginning work with the bases empty. A high strike out ratio, although beneficial, is not as critical. More, I think two different pitching styles/speeds compliment each other, and so I think Zumaya makes Jones that much more effective. The same with Betancourt and Boroski. I don’t think it would work as well the other way around, although then you could have Jones sandwiched between Rodney and Zumaya….Na. At any rate I hope Jones does come back in 2008. Zumaya could become a great closer but not on just speed. It doesn’t last for long. There’s always a new flame throwing phenom coming up; Joba Chamberlain is one of them we’re seeing now.
Not an afterthought, I sure hope Bobby Seay comes back.

Marty, my thoughts exactly. You said it better than I could.

Wow, I shudder to think of Jonesie coming into a situation with men on. :-)

Looking ahead: Sheffield did an adequate job this year–at least until he was physically impaired. At his age there are no guarantees. He could just as easily (actually moreso) not be able to recover as to expect he can even marginally approach previous numbers. He is been accused in the past of being a “cancer in the clubhouse”. That hasn’t happened here yet. But it is also something else to keep in mind.
I think he has trade value that may exceed his potential. I would think he would like a deal with Tampa.

Trouble is Tampa doesn’t have anything they would be willing to offer that we need.

I think we are on borrowed time with Sheff. If Magglio’s “heel” doesn’t “heal” then moving him to DH would be “ideal”.

Sheff could have another good year in him but I’m thinkin’ he doesn’t.

I think Marcus deserves a chance to play regularly somewhere. he has earned it and the arguably, the one thing preventing him from really succeeding is the fact that he is never allowed the comfort level of knowing he is “in” the lineup every day. If he was allowed to develop a rythym I think he could be a better than average everyday player.

I think Grilli could benefit from a change of venue as well.

Not expecting much from Bazardo tonight. He is lucky he is facing a relatively weak hitting team–but they have seen him once already so they might have a book on him.

Well we at least know that JL won’t be making a mistake like he did last year starting Verlander in WS game #1. I still can’t believe that one.

That sure would have worked this year, though, wouldn’t it have? :-)

Marcus Thames, in 579 career ABs (about a season’s worth) has 40 homers. Off RIGHTHANDERS. He has an additional 22 in 389 ABs against lefties. We can go get Adam Dunn or whoever, but we’ve got the same kind of hitter right here in the dugout. It’s exactly as you say, Dan. He’s never been given a regular job, ever. A couple of hitless days and he’s ridin’ the pine again. Now for all of Leyland’s talk of giving him a chance, he has still yet to do so.

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