Casey's back

Tigers re-sign him to a one-year deal.

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Good player but not the impact guy I was hoping for. I do think he will have a good season for us next year but now what do we do with Chris Shelton?

OK the die is cast.
Now how about going after Brad Lidge (for Jones & Grilli) maybe?

Wqs kinda hoping for Carl Crawford to leadoff but realistically we would need to get rid of Monroe or Ordonez to be able to do that–and that ain’t gonna happen.

With Casey being re-signed I don’t think we are going to have any other acquistions of note unless it is a blockbuster trade that deals one of our starting position players. There’s nobody I would like to see go other than Ordonez and Pudge.

I’d trade Ordonez for Crawford in a heartbeat. The Devil Rays would probably like a power hitter.

I think we are looking at our team for ’07, right now.

Maybe a reliever or two might be different, but that’s about it.

Will the Tigers keep Shelton one more year? These seasons are long after all, and a lot can happen. They may end up needing him. But certainly there’s no room on the roster for him now, do you agree? I hope they haven’t given up on him yet though. I’m glad they signed Casey. Accepting a one year deal shows he wants to play here and is willing to go out and prove his value to the team over the course of a full season. JL likes him. Dan, that would be a great trade, but I doubt the Devil Rays would ever make it. Crawford is younger, faster, better defensively, with not quite the power rbi production of Ordonez. 18, 77, .305, but with 58 SBs in 600 ABs. Awfully durable. Sure would add a huge number of options to this powerful but bland Tiger offense.

Put me down for being in favor of signing Casey, especially for a one year deal.

First off, how can you not like the guy? I don’t know if any of you made it to any late season games last year, but watching him in pre-game working the crowd, the opposing players, the umpires, the ushers…this dude is a hoot. Now let’s look at it this way: the game is on the line, who do you want up there? Guillen first, obviously. Polanco, absolutely. Then you have….who? I think it’s Casey for my money. I’m hoping that .245 from last year stemmed from him getting his first real look at everyday AL pitching, which is decidedly tougher than that of the NL (.462 in the WS).

This also accomplishes two things. It puts the Tigers in a position of strength for any further offseason dealing, and it keeps the door open for the development of Chris Shelton. Big Red is young, Casey’s here for one year. It’s all good.

I agree with you Rich on every point. And by signing Casey relatively early they are showing some respect for the guy, not keeping him hanging. They got their impact player in Sheffield. It didn’t help the defense, but their defense overall is already good I think. The outfield is a bit slow except for Curtis but hey, the Tigers are going to produce some runs, no question. Should take some pressure off the starting pitchers. That could be a good thing or a bad thing. Seems like they pitched better under pressure. I still hope they keep Shelton. If they do I predict he will see action in 2007.

I like it too boys especially as it was for the money I suggested (4) and to casey’s immense credit his option money was 8 (unrealistic but true) and he didn’t pout or prevaricate but signed in mid-November. Good for him. It’s true Rich, you can’t help but like the guy though I certainly have loads of reasons for not doing so. The Mayor is back and I have to think this is good news for our boy Big Red.

My comments on walker are in the last section but the more I think about it, I am flat out disappointed in him. How long before he regrets the deal? Early June at the latest – that ballclub is a mess.

Dan, you’ve been at the Havana Club again! By the case. Crawford for Ordonez, I mean it’s a nice idea and can you imagine Granderson in center and Crawford in right — nothing would fall in the outfield. I think Ordonez’s defense cost us at least 3 games last year and Crawford’s glove would give us those three and 3-4 more. But ain’t never going to happan. I’ll even bet anyone who is interested that Crawford has a higher slugging percentage than Ordonez next season.

I feel bad because you’ve been saying it since July and you’re not wrong Dan but I don’t believe anyone in the Tiger’s organization is even considering a replacement for Jones. I like the guy immensely but he really has got nothing but that cutter and its not even that good a cutter. He is all guts and moxie which I respect completely but he needs to develop another 3 pitches and that ain’t gonna happen either. He is signed for another year and thats that.

I liked your idea of a closer for the closer. Several times last year, Rodney and Zumaya had already pitched and pitched well and then Jones got himself in trouble in the 9th. Who can you bring in? You can’t have someone warming up when your closer is in so we can have Tata get ready with Jones so he’s warm in the 9th. He can come in with the bases loaded 2 out in the 9th, 3-4 times next year and that could help us win the pennant.

I THINK CASEY IS A FINE PERSON BUT BRINGING HIM BACK FOR 4 MILLION ONLY PULLS MORE MONEY OUT OF THIS TEAM AND ADDS ANOTHER TORTOISE TO OUR TEAM.WE DID NOT WIN OUR DIVISION LAST YEAR WITH HIM AND WE WILL NOT AGAIN.WHY DO WE KEEP ADDING AGE BACK TO THIS TEAM?I’LL MAKE A STATEMENT RIGHT NOW THAT CASEY WILL NOT MATCH SHELTON’S NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR,WILL NOT PLAY BETTER FIRST BASE THAN RED NOR DOES HE COMPETE WITH RED’S MODERATE SPEED AND HE COST US ABOUT 3 MILLION MORE.OUR BRAIN TRUST IS LOOKING MORE INADEQUATE ALL THE TIME.DEFENSE IS BELOW AVERAGE AT EVERY POSITION EXCEPT CATCHER,SECOND,CENTER AND POSSIBLY THIRD.IF THIS IS OUR TEAM I FEEL WILD CARD IS EVEN IN DANGER.AND WHY WE GAVE THE YANKEES ANOTHER STARTER PLUS A POTENTIAL CLOSER FOR A GUY WHO MISSED 125 GAMES LAST YEAR IS MIND BOGGLING.

Obviously this is a moot point, BUT, I live in Central florida and am familiar very much with the Devil Rays. IF Crawford ever gets dealt it will be for pitching and a lot of it, not a power hitter (not 5 power hitters for that matter). Tampa’s problem is not a lack of home runs to be sure. I’m guessing it would take Jeremy Bonderman and probably two stud arms from the minors (probably one being Andrew Miller) to pry Crawford out of Tampa. The guy is signed long term at low cost. The Devil Rays are stupid if they were to trade him for anything less… Well maybe there is a chance afterall.

You may be right about the pitching but they have NO big names on that team and only 2 guys hit 20 HRs all season.
NOBODY had even just 80 RBIs.

If that doesn’t indicate a lack of power than we must be comparing them with the 1901 Philadelhia Athletics

You go back that far Dan? ;-)

I’m fine with Casey. I’d like to see a little more power from 1b, but we have a lot of guys who can hit one out. And remember we play half our games at Comerica. Casey is consistent, good in the clutch, and seems to have a great attitude.
As for Jones, guts and moxie are a good way to put it. My thought is, why do we always have to use him for the ninth and all the ninth? This “closer” mentality doesn’t always get the job done. There was a playoff game (against Oakland I think) when Rodney MOWED DOWN four batters in a row. But it came to the 9th, and here’s Jones. It seems to me that you go with the hot hand.

As for Sheffield, I have hopes.

We need a lefty reliever, but otherwise we’re set. We all have to remember that last year everything went right–young guys and old free agents produces, injuries almost were not a factor, etc. That’s what it takes in this era. The Yankees and Red Sox will ALWAYS be able to outspend us and put more talent out there on paper. We need three things: talented guys who fit well, a manager who can put it together, and luck. We have the first two. We’ll see about the luck

I personally a excited about the signing of Casey. I know he may not be the “impact” player we need but he really fits with this team, and signing a one year deal will Chris Shelton the opportunity to prove himself this year to take over if we don’t sign Casey for another year.

I can’t see how Shelton will have the opportunity to prove himself.
First of all Casey will playa against all RHP they face—that’s over 75% of the games to begin with. Then on top of that he hits LHP pretty well and leyland may feel there is not that much advantage to put in a guy “trying to prove himself” against lefties.

He won’t be DHing much with Sheffield around and unless he becomes the #2 catcher I don’t see him getting much playing time at all. Unfrotunately, I think he is trade bait.

I don’t think we should rule out Shelton getting some more time at Toledo. I’ve rarely seen a youngster come up with such a sweet swing. He needs to get his head on straight as he should be a .315 and 15 homer guy. That “Orange Crush” lunacy got inside his head, IMO. You’re right, Dan, he can’t prove himself with Detroit unless there are injuries.

Let’s also not forget, in all of our predictions for next season, that spring training can make a huge difference in the makeup of a ballclub.

I like Shelton but I don’t think it is right to have him stagnate on the bench or in the minors. He is a MLB player and if he is not going to play with some frequency here I would like to see him playing full time somewhere else.

I heard DD says they have to find someone to replace Walker—duh—last I looked there were a number of LHP around that should make the squad this coming year that were not playing for us last year much. Miller, Maroth, Ledezma–not to mention Bobby Seay down in Toledo. Seay may be a good “situational” guy. Let’s face it- how many “situations” are we going to need to deal with?

I HAVE BEEN A FAN OF THE TIGERS AND LIONS SINCE 1958.MY 3 BROTHERS HAVE HAD A LOT OF LAUGHS ON ME THRU THE YEARS BUT I WAS HOPING IT WAS MY TURN TO LAUGH.I DON’T THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NOW WITH THESE 2 SIGNINGS THE TIGERS HAVE MADE.THIS PAST YEAR WHEN THE TIGERS WERE SHOWING THE LEAGUE WHAT THEY WERE MADE OF IT WAS WITH OUR YOUNGSTERS MOSTLY.DOMBROWSKI AND LEYLAND LEAD US TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO KEEP OUR TEAM YOUNG AND COMPETITIVE BUT RIGHT AFTER ALL STAR THEY SHOWED THAT WAS JUST TALK AND BEGAN TO AGE OUR TEAM INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEIR WORD.THRE IS NO WAY THAT CASEY IS GOING TO OUTPLAY SHELTON AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GET CHRIS SOME THERAPY BEFORE SPRING TRAINING TO HELP HIM DEAL WITH THE MIND GAME HE FACED FROM OUR BRAINTRUST.RED HAD ONE OF THE SWEETEST SWINGS IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES UNTIL HIS MINOR LEAGUE COACH WAS INSTRUCTED TO CHANGE HIS STANCE AND TRY TO MAKE HIM INTO A 30 OR 40 A YEAR HOMERUN HITTER.IF THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT HIM ALONE HE WOULD HAVE EVENTUALLY GOTTEN CLOSE TO THAT BUT HE WOULD HAVE KEPT HIS GREAT SWING ALSO.I LIKE MONROE BUT I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING HIM BECAUSE HE HAS NEGOITIATING ABILITY WITH OTHER TEAMS BECAUSE OF HIS BAT.UNFORTUNATELY BESIDES HIS ARM HE HAS LITTLE TO OFFER AS A LEFTFIELDER.AGIN BEING OF THE OLD SCHOOL I LIKE CLEVLEN BECAUSE I THINK HE HAS THE STUFF FOR FUTURE COMPARRISONS TO MR. KALINE.SO MANY PEOPLE SAY GIVE HIM TIME IN THE MINORS BUT I STILL THINK IF LEYLAND HAD NOT TAKEN HIM OUT OF OUR LINEUP AFTER HIS BAT IN BOSTON WHEN HE KNOCKED THE BALL OUT OF THE STADIUM. THE WORL SERIES JUST MIGHT HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT ENDING.LAST BUT NOT LEAST WHY IS GRANDERSEN RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO BE AN AMBASADOR FOR BASEBALL WHEN HE SHOULD BE PLAYING BALL TO TRY AND CUT DOWN ON HIS STRIEOUTS AND WORKING MORE WALKS?ALSO MOST OF OUR BATTERS SHOULD BE WORKING ON THEIR BATTING BECAUSE EVERY TEAM IN THE MAJORS KNOWS THAT IF YOU THROW A HIGH INSIDE FASTBALL FOR YOUR SECOND STRIKE THEN A SLIDER ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PLATE THAT DOES NOT EVEN RESEMBLE A STRIKE 85% OF THE TIME THE TIGERS WILL STRIKE OUT.

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